Integrale Evo 2, worth the extra?

Integrale Evo 2, worth the extra?

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twinturban

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Saturday 20th February 2016
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It seems to me the Evo 2 commands a £10k premium over the Evo 1. Any idea why and is it worth it?

twinturban

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Saturday 20th February 2016
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Unusual though isn't it, the Evo 1 was the last factory Lancia to win a world rally, was the last WRC championship winning Lancia and the last Integrale built by Lancia too. It also has the bigger turbo which is something that makes Escort Cosworths more desirable plus I heard it described as being more 'raw' than the Evo 2 which was more refined. Usually the more raw variants with motorsport pedigree are the ones that combine the higher prices.

As you say though, Evo 2s were better looked after on the whole, much like the RS500 Cosworths but surely that makes perfect examples of the more commonly abused models even rarer? Try finding a perfect 8v or 16v Integrale or Sapphire Cosworth! I've been looking for years!

twinturban

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Monday 22nd February 2016
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Thanks, very useful to hear from some owners with experience.

I share that view although of course the Evo 1 values have been catching up with the Evo 2 lately, I saw that coming 12 months ago but couldn't find a nice example to take advantage of it. Still a useful saving to be had however. Evo 2s appear to hang around for quite a while at £45k same for the best Evo 1s for sale which are currently in the mid-high 30's range so hopefully that means that I can negotiate down on price.

twinturban

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Wednesday 24th February 2016
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I noticed Harry Metcalfe's yellow Evo 2 was for sale again, this time at £54k! That's quite a premium to have his name on the V5!

twinturban

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Monday 29th February 2016
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Thanks but they're are loads more Evo 2s for sale currently than Evo 1s.

They did an 8v Evo 1?! Really?! Or was that a typo?

Saw a yellow Evo 2 last week. There are at least 5 for sale at the moment on PH alone, each one saying how rare they are!

Edited by twinturban on Monday 29th February 09:17

twinturban

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Monday 29th February 2016
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The Swiss can't have had 4000 8v Evo 1s though surely?

Yes I was quite pleased the Martini 5 broke £100k especially when Mondials are pushing 80k and E46 CSLs past 100k. However it's a really pointless car that will never be used. Each to their own on that. No doubt the owner already has at least one other Integrale so good luck to him.

twinturban

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Friday 4th March 2016
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After having become mildly obsessed with the Evo1, I've put a deposit down on one today. They've caught up to the Evo2 values quickly in the last 18 months but the cat I've just gone for would have cost a lot more as an evo2. Having sat in a few cars recently I'm convinced the Evo1 seats place you slightly lower in the car and allow a bit more headroom and knee room to the steering wheel. Being a bit too big for a Delta this is useful. Of course the E2 seats grip you better but I get on with the older style seats better. I also slightly prefer the Evo 1 wheel. I was shown the two turbos and was surprised at the difference in size, not that I'll be tuning it at all.

Can't wait to see the car again it's a truly stunning example, but will be getting it inspected next week just for peace of mind. The last time I drove an Integrale was in 1991. Sadly it didn't end well for me or the car. It was a 16v, I hear the Evos handle much better! wink

twinturban

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Wednesday 16th March 2016
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See I don't mind the larger outer lights as my 8v and 16v had those and I consider it part of the original look. I don't think I'll bother changing the lights over to euro spec personally. It's always something to do at a later date. Just off to look at the car I just bought today. I haven't driven an Integrale since 1991 but I love the way they look which has only gotten more appealing over the years plus the tiny proportions all make it such a gem.

For what I'll have ended up paying by the time the car is spot on and put back to standard spec, I could have gotten a higher mileage Evo 2 but I prefer the Evo 1 for lots of reasons and have no regrets. They are still relatively cheap compared to Ferraris and even some Fords so I don't consider them over priced for a perfect example. It's the prices of cars that need a lot of work done that are more shocking to me personally.