Opinions on this Alfa Giullietta please?
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-Alfa-Romeo-Giuliett...
We had a quick look at this earlier. It's done 24800 miles, not 28400, and it's £10000, not £10500 as per the advert, plus their BS £65 admin fee. Overall, it's very tidy, there are a couple of scuffs on the wheels, and a chip on the rear bumper which they say they would sort. A couple of things bother me though; firstly, it's got new tyres on the front that are some no name 'supergrip' or some such, but the main thing I'm bothered about is the history. It has the Alfa PDI stamp, then nothing until it was serviced and MOTd when they took it in on PX. It is an Alfa main dealer stamp, but the car's three years old in March, and has never had it's oil changed until just. Should I be worried?
The salesman says it's just missed an inspection, that's all, but I just think that if the first owner couldn't be bothered to get a new car serviced during their ownership, how much have they cared for it, how often have they checked oil levels etc. I'm supposed to be going back to test drive it tomorrow morning, so some opinions and also any pointers on other things to look for would be welcome. It would replace the wife's Punto and be our every day runabout.
Thanks
We had a quick look at this earlier. It's done 24800 miles, not 28400, and it's £10000, not £10500 as per the advert, plus their BS £65 admin fee. Overall, it's very tidy, there are a couple of scuffs on the wheels, and a chip on the rear bumper which they say they would sort. A couple of things bother me though; firstly, it's got new tyres on the front that are some no name 'supergrip' or some such, but the main thing I'm bothered about is the history. It has the Alfa PDI stamp, then nothing until it was serviced and MOTd when they took it in on PX. It is an Alfa main dealer stamp, but the car's three years old in March, and has never had it's oil changed until just. Should I be worried?
The salesman says it's just missed an inspection, that's all, but I just think that if the first owner couldn't be bothered to get a new car serviced during their ownership, how much have they cared for it, how often have they checked oil levels etc. I'm supposed to be going back to test drive it tomorrow morning, so some opinions and also any pointers on other things to look for would be welcome. It would replace the wife's Punto and be our every day runabout.
Thanks
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Its a modern turbo-petrol, they live and die on their oil.
Alfa chnaged the service schedule on the 1.4 engines after a few years. Old schedule was 2yrs/18k miles, new schedule is 1yr/9k miles. IIRC they were getting too many failures on the 2yr schedule.
If its done 3yrs / 25k miles with no oil change, that means its missed at a minimum one oil change, or maybe two.
Id be briskly walking in the other direction, tbh!
That would explain why it's a decent price, but hasn't sold. I'll give it a miss. Hopefully more 14 reg models will come on the used market after 1st March. Alfa chnaged the service schedule on the 1.4 engines after a few years. Old schedule was 2yrs/18k miles, new schedule is 1yr/9k miles. IIRC they were getting too many failures on the 2yr schedule.
If its done 3yrs / 25k miles with no oil change, that means its missed at a minimum one oil change, or maybe two.
Id be briskly walking in the other direction, tbh!
Thanks for the advice, much appreciated. Shame though, it was a nice car.
Quickmoose said:
Well done! enjoy.
Those alloys are a right PITA to keep clean though. Get some '8C' style ones...;)
This has been and is my fave Giullietta example...
Thanks. Those alloys are a right PITA to keep clean though. Get some '8C' style ones...;)
This has been and is my fave Giullietta example...
I thought the same about the wheels, they have a similar number of spokes to the ones on my Jag (which are a PITA), but at least these are already brake dust coloured.
The Sprints and some other new models come with the 8C style wheels, they do look nice.
Vitorio said:
Widely late, but i thought id add to this
The 170hp 1.4 also has the multi-air tech, meaning it only has one cam, and the other valves (i think intake) are driven using hydraulics using engine oil. Meaning the oil in these engines isnt just for lubricating bearings and regulation heat, it also flows through some very fast moving valves and pressure regulators.
Id be very worried about the effect 25K old oil might have on the intake valve-train, besides the obvious turbo, and potentially big-ends on a highly strung small displacement engine like that.
That's how they work, I must admit I didn't know! The 170hp 1.4 also has the multi-air tech, meaning it only has one cam, and the other valves (i think intake) are driven using hydraulics using engine oil. Meaning the oil in these engines isnt just for lubricating bearings and regulation heat, it also flows through some very fast moving valves and pressure regulators.
Id be very worried about the effect 25K old oil might have on the intake valve-train, besides the obvious turbo, and potentially big-ends on a highly strung small displacement engine like that.
Thanks for the info.Thankfully the one I've bought has been serviced every 12 months at below the mileage requirement.
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