Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

[johnwilliams77]

z4RRSchris said:

that and his old man is fking loaded.

What difference does that make if, as shmee says, received no financial assistance from him.

[xjay1337]

While he may not have had 50k handed to him lets just say I doubt ShhTim has gone without in life.

[Mezzanine]

z4RRSchris said:

that and his old man is fking loaded.

Hopefully the size of his bank balance doesn't coincide with the size of the collars on his shirt, otherwise he might not be able to see to his left or right...

[Truckosaurus]

Mezzanine said:

Hopefully the size of his bank balance doesn't coincide with the size of the collars on his shirt, otherwise he might not be able to see to his left or right...

Shmee, pictured earlier:

[Mezzanine]

Exactly!

('Harry Hill' is himself pretty well off so the bitter, pathetic PH theory is proved beyond all doubt once again!)

[CityS]

johnwilliams77 said:

What difference does that make if, as shmee says, received no financial assistance from him.

It makes a big difference. He can easily risk all of his money in cars than could depreciate 100k in a year since he is not risking his future.

[AyBee]

johnwilliams77 said:

z4RRSchris said:

that and his old man is fking loaded.

What difference does that make if, as shmee says, received no financial assistance from him.

Even if he received no direct financial assistance buying the cars (which is what he's said), he may have had help with living expenses in the early days, and even if he didn't, he had a new to catch him if he fell - not something everyone has but makes risk-taking substantially easier.

[Challo]

I still don't get why people are getting all worked up about how he funds his cars. He has already stated he doesn't get financial funding from his parents, and he pays for his cars via youtube and other business interests.

He outlined some basic monthly costs, and if he ploughs every spare penny into his cars thats upto him. These cars help him with his video content and therefore makes him money. Is it not the same as any business owner who puts money in their business to make more?

Typical PH. The comes on here and explains the business model and people still claim its b*llocks

[matsoc]

p1stonhead said:

matsoc said:

CityS said:

Shmee said:

I did specifically say with no dependents. Example for a young-20s person in London:

£45k income is £33,600 after tax, roughly £2,800 a month.

Shared flat with 2 friends around £800 a month each somewhere in Zone 2/3

£10k deposit on a £50k R8 from savings, 48 months @ 7%, £20k balloon; £595 per month.

R8 in the garage, and £1,400 a month for living which is more than enough from my experience!

parking costs in London? insurance in London? fuel? servicing/repairs? parking tickets? that would be at least 500 a month
food/travel card at least another 500
what about flights/holidays etc?

Your example doesn't work in London but it could be doable in a smaller city where insurance and parking cost less.

Edited by CityS on Monday 21st November 13:11

I think the income needed to afford or not afford a car is very subjective. It is a matter of priorities. If the priority 1 is owning a sports car somehow many daily expenses can be limited. As much as I like cars I would never change my daily lifestyle to afford one but I am an incurable spender!

Exactly, I could have a £3k a month payment on something silly, but cars dont mean that much to me. Id rather put it into savings or the house.

Everyone has different priorities.

However, if the £3k a month was getting me £20k a month in youtube money, no brainer obviously!

Not easy making £20k a month with Youtube video about cars for what I know, you would need millions of views and a lot of subscribers, not 50k views or so for every video.
Anyway it is correct that the cost of the cars is at least partially repaid by the youtube income.

[matsoc]

Davey S2 said:

matsoc said:

It is a matter of priorities. If the priority 1 is owning a sports car somehow many daily expenses can be limited.

Totally different scenario but you see the same thing with private schools. Not all pupils have wealthy parents and some sacrifice a lot to be able to afford it.

Yes, true, even if the school is expensive but better than cheaper ones it could be considered an investement. Owning a sports car can give pleasure but it would hardly make you wealthier in 20 years time (to be fair it could happen buying some cars that appreciate a lot but it is another story)

[ferrisbueller]

AyBee said:

johnwilliams77 said:

z4RRSchris said:

that and his old man is fking loaded.

What difference does that make if, as shmee says, received no financial assistance from him.

Even if he received no direct financial assistance buying the cars (which is what he's said), he may have had help with living expenses in the early days, and even if he didn't, he had a new to catch him if he fell - not something everyone has but makes risk-taking substantially easier.

CityS said:

johnwilliams77 said:

What difference does that make if, as shmee says, received no financial assistance from him.

It makes a big difference. He can easily risk all of his money in cars than could depreciate 100k in a year since he is not risking his future.

Agree with the above.

I think Shmee deserves a lot of credit for his openess and honesty on certain matters. He reveals more than I would.

I am not too proud to admit that I do envy his position in life to an extent. That's in terms of the profession he has and the background he enjoys. I've never been able to make the numbers work in the way he has and noone has any influence over who our parents/grandparents/great-grandparents are.

If he is where he is without having had any kind of a leg up then that's even more creditworthy IMO. However, per the quotes above, it's hard to believe there hasn't been any help somewhere along the lines. Even then, so what? There just seems to be an issue around any of these people acknowledging it if it's the case.

[The Surveyor]

Challo said:

Typical PH. The comes on here and explains the business model and people still claim its b*llocks

I think it is two-fold. Firstly most people do actually think it is b*llocks, but secondly there is a resentment against somebody who proclaims to be a car enthusiast but is 'living the dream' on the back of the very enthusiasts he proclaims to be one of.

He presents himself as a very lucky enthusiast who's got all these great opportunities to sample other peoples dream cars, then funds them by asking car enthusiasts to watch him enjoying them. Nobody likes a clever dick, especially a very smug one

[zeb]

I dont see the problem, he's hardly selling hand grenades to kids is he??

Good luck to the chap, if you want to watch his clips then do so, if not then you know where the off button is.

[Ollywood]

johnwilliams77 said:

z4RRSchris said:

that and his old man is fking loaded.

What difference does that make if, as shmee says, received no financial assistance from him.

This is his problem and he has talked about it. But like a lot of people say it doesn't add up (literary)

Most Youtubers have found this to be a problem when you are flashing your lifestyle. Most of the audience are kids who want to live his dream and want to know how he did it. Salomondrin has been a little more honest about how he makes his money but I am sure he had some initially (but at least he didn't blow it all) But most of them avoid the subject.

By him saying that he made some clever investments is a little coy and could be a little more transparent. I guess he doesn't want to haters to just say he's trust fund kid. But if he has made his money grow good on him!

[monamimate]

Blimey, all these questions about how Shmee pays for his cars!

Do you interrogate your local restaurant owner (or any other reasonably successful member of your local community) on how much his margins are, how much bank loan he took, did he get a help from his dad, did he go to a specific school or why he wears shirts with collars?

Shmee makes videos many people like and others don't, and he might or might not make enough money from it to finance cars.

Wat more do we need to know?

[monamimate]

Ollywood said:

he ... could be a little more transparent.

Why? It's none of our business.

[johnwilliams77]

Ollywood said:

This is his problem and he has talked about it. But like a lot of people say it doesn't add up (literary)

Most Youtubers have found this to be a problem when you are flashing your lifestyle. Most of the audience are kids who want to live his dream and want to know how he did it. Salomondrin has been a little more honest about how he makes his money but I am sure he had some initially (but at least he didn't blow it all) But most of them avoid the subject.

By him saying that he made some clever investments is a little coy and could be a little more transparent. I guess he doesn't want to haters to just say he's trust fund kid. But if he has made his money grow good on him!

What doesn't add up?

[Shmee]

johnwilliams77 said:

What doesn't add up?

This is the bit that confuses me.

I've been pretty straightforward many times in this thread about approximate figures the Shmee150 ventures earn, which are clearly over and above what's needed to fund the cars in my garage. To be honest everyone can see what I make, it directly correlates to the cars I buy.

I'm not about to be more specific with it than that, because quite frankly it's private information.

[DonkeyApple]

Shmee said:

johnwilliams77 said:

What doesn't add up?

This is the bit that confuses me.

I've been pretty straightforward many times in this thread about approximate figures the Shmee150 ventures earn, which are clearly over and above what's needed to fund the cars in my garage. To be honest everyone can see what I make, it directly correlates to the cars I buy.

I'm not about to be more specific with it than that, because quite frankly it's private information.

They don't want that answer. They just want you to say that you still suckle from your mother's tit and collect pocket money from your father. Until you capitulate and confess that you have achieved nothing in life and it's all bank rolled by pater there will be no peace from the followers of Ian Bone.

[Quickmoose]

I'd simply ignore this kind of request from now on... not only do the mass majority not give a fk, but anyone with half a brain cell would know that personal info like this isn't, and shouldn't be, forthcoming beyond what you've already said.