Tornado in Oklahoma.

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Derek Smith

45,808 posts

249 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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24+ kids following tornado procedures and sheltering in a hall when the roof fell in. Mains water pipes ruptured and flooded the area. The kids were trapped by the debris and those who weren't killed by the roof collapse were probably drowned.

A real horror story.

rix

2,790 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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It does amaze me that they build such properties without any nod to safety from tornados. They largely are wooden freestanding homes litterly built on what i would describe as a 'shed base'. I can remember being at my relatives in Alabama during a tornado warning; my wife asked my cousin what precautions they take during such times, "you just pray" was the response...

Gun

13,431 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Looks like at least 20 children have been killed by it now frown

RIP, very sad.

Juanco20

3,216 posts

194 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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rix said:
It does amaze me that they build such properties without any nod to safety from tornados. They largely are wooden freestanding homes litterly built on what i would describe as a 'shed base'. I can remember being at my relatives in Alabama during a tornado warning; my wife asked my cousin what precautions they take during such times, "you just pray" was the response...
Cheap to build = cheap to replace

Probably better than spending a fortune on building a solid house and then it still not standing up to 200mph winds

Captain Cadillac

2,974 posts

188 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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rix said:
It does amaze me that they build such properties without any nod to safety from tornados. They largely are wooden freestanding homes litterly built on what i would describe as a 'shed base'. I can remember being at my relatives in Alabama during a tornado warning; my wife asked my cousin what precautions they take during such times, "you just pray" was the response...
200mph winds don't care what the house was built out of, a direct hit from a high F4 or better is taking down virtually anything in its path.

Stu R

21,410 posts

216 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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rix said:
It does amaze me that they build such properties without any nod to safety from tornados. They largely are wooden freestanding homes litterly built on what i would describe as a 'shed base'. I can remember being at my relatives in Alabama during a tornado warning; my wife asked my cousin what precautions they take during such times, "you just pray" was the response...
Sounds about right for Alabama.

As said, you can build them out of whatever you want, but really all you're changing is how heavy the rubble flying around taking other houses out is. What that doesn't finish the airborne cars and trucks will.

hollydog

1,108 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Amazes me if its called tornado alley why do the people stay there. It must be cheaper in the long run to build new towns away from this regular occurrence.

captainzep

13,305 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Given that the cost and logistics of installing a storm cellar is little different to installing a septic tank, it is somewhat surprising there aren't more of them. Having said that, if you're at a school or shopping mall and get a 3 minute warning, you don't have too many options I suppose.

Incredible footage and very sad.

captainzep

13,305 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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hollydog said:
Amazes me if its called tornado alley why do the people stay there. It must be cheaper in the long run to build new towns away from this regular occurrence.
Not sure if serious...

"Tornado alley" is just a phrase which describes a relatively large area where many tornadoes are most likely to occur.

Perhaps this map will show why you can't relocate settlements out of harms way:



Derek Smith

45,808 posts

249 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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captainzep said:
Not sure if serious...

"Tornado alley" is just a phrase which describes a relatively large area where many tornadoes are most likely to occur.

Perhaps this map will show why you can't relocate settlements out of harms way:
Given that this tornado was the second worst in recent history and the worst was in more or less the same area, I think your map doesn't say it all.

Captain Cadillac

2,974 posts

188 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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captainzep said:
Not sure if serious...

"Tornado alley" is just a phrase which describes a relatively large area where many tornadoes are most likely to occur.

Perhaps this map will show why you can't relocate settlements out of harms way:

Difference is that the monsters tend to hit in a pretty specific part of the country. It's the F3 and greater ones that are the real killers, and those tend to pop up in the middle of the country.

The area where Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas and Oklahoma come together tends to have the highest concentration of nasty tornadoes.

rohrl

8,754 posts

146 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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It's a horrible story to wake up to and the pictures look like Hiroshima. Reminiscent of Aberfan too with the reports of mass caualties at a school.

rovermorris999

5,203 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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It looks horrific, my sympathies go out to those who have to suffer weather like that.

As an aside, who'd like to lay odds on when the first 'caused by climate change, we can increasingly expect more of the same in future' comment in the MSM?

Hoofy

76,518 posts

283 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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captainzep said:
Not sure if serious...

"Tornado alley" is just a phrase which describes a relatively large area where many tornadoes are most likely to occur.

Perhaps this map will show why you can't relocate settlements out of harms way:

That's some alley. Normally, alleys are narrow.

Art0ir

9,402 posts

171 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Hoofy said:
Normally, alleys are narrow.
It's an American alley.

Very sad news, a very real reminder that we're really at the mercy of nature on this little planet of our's.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Derek Smith said:
captainzep said:
Not sure if serious...

"Tornado alley" is just a phrase which describes a relatively large area where many tornadoes are most likely to occur.

Perhaps this map will show why you can't relocate settlements out of harms way:
Given that this tornado was the second worst in recent history and the worst was in more or less the same area, I think your map doesn't say it all.
Tornado alley is a huge area. A quick google shows it.



More people were killed here simply because it's a population center. There are plenty of other big tornados appearing all over that area.

unrepentant

21,291 posts

257 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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The tornado alarm went off here at 3.30 this morning and it got our full attention. Fortunately it passed to the south of us and I don't think it touched down. 10,000 people lost power in what was a pretty severe storm though.

Thoughts go out to those in Oklahoma, devastating.

nigelpugh7

6,046 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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this photo just breaks my heart, the teacher holding the little girls hand when she is clearly in pain makes me know just how she feels inside!!


captainzep

13,305 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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el stovey said:
Derek Smith said:
captainzep said:
Not sure if serious...

"Tornado alley" is just a phrase which describes a relatively large area where many tornadoes are most likely to occur.

Perhaps this map will show why you can't relocate settlements out of harms way:
Given that this tornado was the second worst in recent history and the worst was in more or less the same area, I think your map doesn't say it all.
Tornado alley is a huge area. A quick google shows it.

More people were killed here simply because it's a population center. There are plenty of other big tornados appearing all over that area.
el stovey is right and uses a better map to make his point. I wasn't trying to show where 'tornado alley' is sited, just that tornadoes occur all over the US. Topography and meteorological conditions tend to breed the strongest 'supercell' storms in the area el stovey shows. The Rocky mountains have a big effect hence the West/East divide in numbers.

However, my main point remains, you can't build cities out of harm's way, despite the number of tornadoes spawned in 'tornado alley', 3 people died in New England in 2011, and there are recent tornado fatalities in Canada, Mexico, Bangladesh, Poland, Sweden and France...

Rollcage

11,327 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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I found myself rather moved by the story of the woman who found her dog while being interviewed live.


Thoughts with anyone affected, and for those helping. I guess Jimbeaux will be involved somewhere along the line?