Steve McQueen - the king of cool?
Steve McQueen - the king of cool?
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StuntmanMike

11,761 posts

170 months

Thursday 6th February 2014
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Pixel Pusher said:
Clint is cooler.

Much cooler.

Worm68

20 posts

141 months

Thursday 6th February 2014
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Mr Eastwood is as mad as a balloon... Did you see him talking to the chair at the republican convention a couple of years ago?

Good grief... He has lost it completely !

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

156 months

Thursday 6th February 2014
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StuntmanMike said:
Pixel Pusher said:
Clint is cooler.

Much cooler.
You're very wrong. Clint always plays hero figures, good guys. McQueen plays the anti-hero, far, far cooler on screen and in real life.

Edited by MarshPhantom on Thursday 6th February 22:14

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

214 months

Thursday 6th February 2014
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Worm68 said:
Mr Eastwood is as mad as a balloon.
I was going to post the same thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yra8khbBBY

The full clip goes on for 10 minutes of his babbling.

Halb

53,012 posts

202 months

Thursday 6th February 2014
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MarshPhantom said:
You're very wrong. Clint always plays hero figures, good guys. McQueen plays the anti-hero, far, far cooler on screen and in real life.

Edited by MarshPhantom on Thursday 6th February 22:14
Clint made the 'anti-hero' and is iconic for it!

davepoth

29,395 posts

218 months

Thursday 6th February 2014
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Another reason he was cool:



That's McQueen on his way to an overall 2nd and class victory at Sebring in 1970.

The Don of Croy

6,268 posts

178 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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I'd go along with the cool thing, but coolest? That's highly subjective, so whatever floats YOUR boat.

Having watched the Mag 7 over Christmas - for the first time in yonks - I was struck by just how cool all the guys are (and probably scripted/directed to just that effect), except the tyro character obv. Or the latinos.

Then I watched the Great Escape and once again, coolness in spades, but also from the Brits (in the stiff upper lip way).

Maybe it's because they made the films then in that way? They allowed the character to be 'cool' whereas in all probability at the time in those situations people may have been a teensy bit 'normal' (panicky, edgy, upset) and not laid back to the point of horizontality.

Away from the screen is a different matter - but again, who do we know enough about to judge?

Cotty

41,562 posts

303 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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dai1983 said:
The motorsport projects he also did and the fact he was a petrolhead added to his coolness. Are there any modern A listers that do a similar thing? (I'm not counting Mcdreamy from Greys Anatomy as he's not A list in my eyes and his films are st!)
Is Eric Bana A list?
You need to watch Love the Beast
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1284028/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Disastrous

10,184 posts

236 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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MarshPhantom said:
StuntmanMike said:
Pixel Pusher said:
Clint is cooler.

Much cooler.
You're very wrong. Clint always plays hero figures, good guys. McQueen plays the anti-hero, far, far cooler on screen and in real life.

Edited by MarshPhantom on Thursday 6th February 22:14
Nonsense. Clint always plays the anti-hero.

He's much cooler than Steve McQueen and a better actor too.

Honestly, McQueen was cool, no doubt, but he was a pretty rotten actor really. Bullitt is a fairly terrible film apart for the car chase and you start to feel sorry for his girlfriend and Napoleon Solo, all acting away to try and make something happen on screen whilst he just stares sullenly at everything.

I actually think people's imagination of who Steve McQueen was off screen is much cooler than any role. We all picture him charging about in vintage ferraris in Persol sunglasses with pretty girls. And that's cool. But also down to some shrewd photography wink

vxr8mate

1,689 posts

208 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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Would never have thought Fonda a 'cool' dude until I watched Once Upon a Time in the West.

Halb

53,012 posts

202 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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Humphrey Bogart...forgotten cool...

Johnspex

4,815 posts

203 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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Just the secne in Mag 7 when he pulls the spare gun out the back of his belt, checks and puts it back makes him cool, oh, and the bit where he stops the barman from getting the shotgun with just a slight wave of the hand.
Apparently he tried to upstage Yul Brunner all the way through to the point where Brynner complained to the dirctor about his antics.
Oh, yeah and the bit where he dives over the wall.

Johnspex

4,815 posts

203 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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And unless I'm much mistaken he's about the only guy in a Western (not modern stuff) to actually wear blue jeans. So that definitely makes him cool

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

156 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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I've always thought Dennis Hopper was underrated. Too much of lunatic to be really cool though.

BJG1

5,966 posts

231 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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If we were to limit it to people still alive I'd have Guy Martin and Hugh Laurie up there. Guy Martin might have a silly voice but he's stupidly cool - in that episode of Speed with Laura Trott it was so obvious she was gagging for him biggrin . Hugh was brilliant as House, sings the blues and was nearly an Olympic standard rower.

I probably won't get much support for this on here buy Jay-Z is really, really cool. Biggest rapper alive, shags Beyonce and comes across as a top bloke.

From sport you have Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Jenson Button and Eric Cantona.

Travis Pastrana is the coolest man alive though. What a man.

Quite a way from being Ali, Sinatra, McQueen et al though.

white_goodman

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4,376 posts

210 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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MarshPhantom said:
Yes.



Sean Connery played a cool character (whilst wearing a wig), Steve McQueen was a cool person.

Plus Connery's first love is golf, which is the least cool thing ever.
Not a very flattering picture. He looks like he has gone out for a pint of milk and then forgotten what he has gone out for but to be fair he is an 83 year old man. I picked Connery as a frame of reference because if he had lived, they would now be about the same age. I think "League of Extraordinary Gentleman" was Connery's last big film and he was definitely the best thing in it (not a great film unfortunately IMHO). Again, Connery loses cool points for the wig (I was disappointed when I read about that) but then that's hardly his fault!

I agree playing golf isn't the coolest past time but then Bond plays it and there is not many sports a man in his 80s can still enjoy playing. Cooler than playing bridge and watching Countdown!

Clint Eastwood is a good comparison. He's pretty cool and has had quite a colourful life by the looks of it.

Interesting comparison with Daniel Craig. I know he does his own stunts and stuff, as does Tom Cruise (but he loses most of his cool points for the whole scientology thing)! Which modern actor is Steve McQueen most like?

white_goodman

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4,376 posts

210 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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Disastrous said:
Nonsense. Clint always plays the anti-hero.

He's much cooler than Steve McQueen and a better actor too.

Honestly, McQueen was cool, no doubt, but he was a pretty rotten actor really. Bullitt is a fairly terrible film apart for the car chase and you start to feel sorry for his girlfriend and Napoleon Solo, all acting away to try and make something happen on screen whilst he just stares sullenly at everything.

I actually think people's imagination of who Steve McQueen was off screen is much cooler than any role. We all picture him charging about in vintage ferraris in Persol sunglasses with pretty girls. And that's cool. But also down to some shrewd photography wink
I kind of agree with you, which is why I posed the question. Perhaps I need to see some more Steve McQueen movies?

Halmyre

12,118 posts

158 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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Disastrous said:
Honestly, McQueen was cool, no doubt, but he was a pretty rotten actor really. Bullitt is a fairly terrible film apart for the car chase and you start to feel sorry for his girlfriend and Napoleon Solo, all acting away to try and make something happen on screen whilst he just stares sullenly at everything.
I used to think that; first time I saw it all I wanted was the car chase and everything else was boring and incomprehensible, but then I bought a tape of it and watched it again and paid more attention, and every time I've watched it since it's got to the point where the car chase, while still brilliant, almost (I say almost!) intrudes on the story. Well, OK, it doesn't, but it's more than just a car chase film.

white_goodman

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4,376 posts

210 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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BJG1 said:
If we were to limit it to people still alive I'd have Guy Martin and Hugh Laurie up there. Guy Martin might have a silly voice but he's stupidly cool - in that episode of Speed with Laura Trott it was so obvious she was gagging for him biggrin . Hugh was brilliant as House, sings the blues and was nearly an Olympic standard rower.
I thought I had misread that and you meant Guy Richie and Hugh Jackman for a moment! Hugh Laurie is a bit of a comedy legend but I'm not sure if he's cool (haven't seen House though).

David Caruso is so cool as Horatio Cain in CSI: Miami. No mean feat for a ginger! Not so cool in an "Officer and a Gentleman" though!

Legacywr

13,990 posts

207 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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Do you really think these two are "cool"? Jenson Button and Eric Cantona.