Porsche's Bugatti Veyron beater!

Porsche's Bugatti Veyron beater!

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D4V KC

Original Poster:

644 posts

238 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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This just in!

My copy of Autocar landed on my doormat this morning as i left for work. One of the cover stories was about a Carrera GT based hyper car that Porsche may/will be building, a 950BHP, 254mph top speed car. The Autocar website is not up to date yet, but i'm sure it will be soon or maybe PetrolTed will find the story somewhere on the internet. The car shown in the magazine is an artists impression. But they seem fairly sure on their information (in the 2 mins i had to scan through it).

However, given that Bugatti are supposed to be working on a tuned up Veyron. Who's gonna win the fastest road car award now?

Then there's the Koeniegseggiesgeieisgeie people, but i'm not sure they'll pull it off with another retune of their current little monster.

Guess we'll have to wait and see!

Plotloss

67,280 posts

269 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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Is that not the Rinspeed thing?

(Havent seen Autocar but I know Rinspeed released photos recently of a CGT based lunatic chariot)

D4V KC

Original Poster:

644 posts

238 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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Nope, 100% Porsche approved production car apparantly.
I'm hopeing Autocar update the website sharpish!

r988

7,495 posts

228 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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So what will they slap a couple of haridryers and a proper roof on some left over CGTs and go for the Veyron? Maybe the real reason they want to buy a larger stake of VW is to stop all this nonsense

hollypop

810 posts

218 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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Also included is the 0-100-0

Dunno if Porsche will be able to beat the Bugatti....

Bugatti Veyron 0-30 1.40 0-60 2.80 0-100 5.50 Reaction Time 0.20 100-0 3.40 Overall 9.9
Ariel Atom 300 0-30 1.51 0-60 3.32 0-100 6.95 Reaction Time 0.12 100-0 3.93 Overall 11.00
Caterhams CSR260 0-30 1.57 0-60 3.50 0-100 7.72 Reaction Time 0.37 100-0 3.86 Overall 11.95
Brooke Double R 0-30 1.60 0-60 3.67 0-100 8.17 Reaction Time 0.24 100-0 4.09 Overall 12.50
Porsche 911 Turbo 0-30 1.30 0-60 3.60 0-100 8.00 Reaction Time 0.25 100-0 4.25 Overall 12.50
Ford Focus WRC 2006 0-30 1.25 0-60 3.34 0-100 8.91 Reaction Time 0.45 100-0 4.19 Overall 13.57
Lamborghini Gallardo 0-30 1.64 0-60 4.12 0-100 8.82 Reaction Time 0.63 100-0 4.20 Overall 13.65
Ascari KZ1 0-30 1.79 0-60 3.97 0-100 8.58 Reaction Time 0.68 100-0 4.54 Overall 13.80
Corvette ZO6 0-30 1.97 0-60 4.29 0-100 8.66 Reaction Time 0.72 100-0 4.42 Overall 13.80
Alpina B6 0-30 2.01 0-60 4.46 0-100 9.87 Reaction Time 0.38 100-0 4.55 Overall 14.80
BMW M6 0-30 2.26 0-60 4.76 0-100 9.88 Reaction Time 0.53 100-0 4.54 Overall 14.95
TVR Tuscan 2 0-30 2.08 0-60 4.39 0-100 9.44 Reaction Time 0.86 100-0 4.70 Overall 15.00
BMW M5 0-30 2.37 0-60 4.96 0-100 10.25 Reaction Time 0.63 100-0 4.32 Overall 15.20
Audi RS4 0-30 1.87 0-60 4.49 0-100 10.61 Reaction Time 0.72 100-0 4.47 Overall 15.80
Aston Martin V8 Vantage 0-30 1.90 0-60 4.90 0-100 11.50 Reaction Time 0.15 100-0 4.16 Overall 15.81
BMW Z4M Roadster 0-30 2.06 0-60 5.04 0-100 11.46 Reaction Time 0.12 100-0 4.37 Overall 15.95
Porsche Cayman S 0-30 2.14 0-60 5.04 0-100 11.78 Reaction Time 0.27 100-0 4.10 Overall 16.46
Lotus Exige S 0-30 1.63 0-60 4.67 0-100 11.87 Reaction Time 0.50 100-0 4.23 Overall 16.60
Nissan 350Z 0-30 2.48 0-60 5.75 0-100 13.66 Reaction Time 0.69 100-0 4.45 Overall 18.80
Vauxhall Astra Sprint 0-30 2.72 0-60 5.74 0-100 13.49 Reaction Time 0.70 100-0 4.66 Overall 18.85
Vauxhall Astra VXR 0-30 2.53 0-60 6.05 0-100 14.33 Reaction Time 0.31 100-0 4.41 Overall 19.05
Renault Megane F1 0-30 2.55 0-60 6.07 0-100 15.63 Reaction Time 0.43 100-0 4.49 Overall 20.55
Mazda 6 MPS 0-30 1.87 0-60 5.98 0-100 15.51 Reaction Time 0.84 100-0 4.65 Overall 21.00
Ford Focus ASBO 0-30 2.80 0-60 6.77 0-100 16.10 Reaction Time 0.62 100-0 4.63 Overall 21.35
Vauxhall Vectra VXR 0-30 2.71 0-60 6.94 0-100 17.23 Reaction Time 0.54 100-0 4.58 Overall 22.35
Thurlby Astra 888 CDTi 0-30 2.84 0-60 6.89 0-100 17.64 Reaction Time 0.68 100-0 4.32 Overall 22.65

Also Bike v A1 GP
A1 GP 0-30 1.65 0-60 3.01 0-100 5.00 Reaction Time 0.10 100-0 3.40 Overall 8.40
Suzuki GSX-R1000 0-30 1.61 0-60 3.30 0-100 5.60 Reaction Time 0.10 100-0 5.10 Overall 10.70

Edited by hollypop on Wednesday 28th June 12:09

Neil_H

15,323 posts

250 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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Does this mean people believe what they read in Autocar?

FourWheelDrift

88,381 posts

283 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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Then they will still be behind the 1000bhp Gembella Porsche Carrera GT.

Click image for full size.

r988

7,495 posts

228 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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hollypop said:
lots of stuff


What is the meaning of all this?

Joe911

2,763 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
Then they will still be behind the 1000bhp Gembella Porsche Carrera GT.

Isn't the Gemballa vapour-ware though? I've only ever seen artists impressions and I've not heard of one actually being built. Anyone know if they are actually building any?

Edited by Joe911 on Wednesday 28th June 12:53

benyeats

11,610 posts

229 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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The results of the annual Autocar 0-100-0 competition which the Veyron quite convincingly won

Ben

Dakkon

7,826 posts

252 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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Joe911 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Then they will still be behind the 1000bhp Gembella Porsche Carrera GT.

Isn't the Gemballa vapour-ware though? I've only ever seen artists impressions and I've not heard of one actually being built. Anyone know if they are actually building any?

Edited by Joe911 on Wednesday 28th June 12:53


I heard this too, I thought the Gemballa thing was just this is what we might be able to do if we could be bothered, does look goo though

r988

7,495 posts

228 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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benyeats said:
The results of the annual Autocar 0-100-0 competition which the Veyron quite convincingly won

Ben


Not suprising really, the competition a few rungs below a veyron, there are no other cars even close to it in that competition.

Why no Ultima GTR? isn't that the record holder?

FourWheelDrift

88,381 posts

283 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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Until someone buys one I guess it's all drawings at the moment.

9ff also do a 300bhp upgrade for the CGT - http://9ff.de/en/products/details.php

sheepy

3,164 posts

248 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
Until someone buys one I guess it's all drawings at the moment.

9ff also do a 300bhp upgrade for the CGT - http://9ff.de/en/products/details.php
9ff is the only one I've actually heard of someone doing. As for the Gembulla, Would you really pay another 1.5 Million Euro for this?

A friend of a colleague has just bought a CGT, might have to ask why he didn't go for this upgrade

Plotloss

67,280 posts

269 months

Wednesday 28th June 2006
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Thats the bugger, Gembella not Rinspeed.

santos

33 posts

228 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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Neil_H said:
Does this mean people believe what they read in Autocar?


That's worrying

cheeky

2,102 posts

263 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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hollypop said:
Also included is the 0-100-0

Dunno if Porsche will be able to beat the Bugatti....

Bugatti Veyron 0-30 1.40 0-60 2.80 0-100 5.50 Reaction Time 0.20 100-0 3.40 Overall 9.9
Ariel Atom 300 0-30 1.51 0-60 3.32 0-100 6.95 Reaction Time 0.12 100-0 3.93 Overall 11.00
Caterhams CSR260 0-30 1.57 0-60 3.50 0-100 7.72 Reaction Time 0.37 100-0 3.86 Overall 11.95
Brooke Double R 0-30 1.60 0-60 3.67 0-100 8.17 Reaction Time 0.24 100-0 4.09 Overall 12.50
Porsche 911 Turbo 0-30 1.30 0-60 3.60 0-100 8.00 Reaction Time 0.25 100-0 4.25 Overall 12.50
Ford Focus WRC 2006 0-30 1.25 0-60 3.34 0-100 8.91 Reaction Time 0.45 100-0 4.19 Overall 13.57
Lamborghini Gallardo 0-30 1.64 0-60 4.12 0-100 8.82 Reaction Time 0.63 100-0 4.20 Overall 13.65
Ascari KZ1 0-30 1.79 0-60 3.97 0-100 8.58 Reaction Time 0.68 100-0 4.54 Overall 13.80
Corvette ZO6 0-30 1.97 0-60 4.29 0-100 8.66 Reaction Time 0.72 100-0 4.42 Overall 13.80
Alpina B6 0-30 2.01 0-60 4.46 0-100 9.87 Reaction Time 0.38 100-0 4.55 Overall 14.80
BMW M6 0-30 2.26 0-60 4.76 0-100 9.88 Reaction Time 0.53 100-0 4.54 Overall 14.95
TVR Tuscan 2 0-30 2.08 0-60 4.39 0-100 9.44 Reaction Time 0.86 100-0 4.70 Overall 15.00
BMW M5 0-30 2.37 0-60 4.96 0-100 10.25 Reaction Time 0.63 100-0 4.32 Overall 15.20
Audi RS4 0-30 1.87 0-60 4.49 0-100 10.61 Reaction Time 0.72 100-0 4.47 Overall 15.80
Aston Martin V8 Vantage 0-30 1.90 0-60 4.90 0-100 11.50 Reaction Time 0.15 100-0 4.16 Overall 15.81
BMW Z4M Roadster 0-30 2.06 0-60 5.04 0-100 11.46 Reaction Time 0.12 100-0 4.37 Overall 15.95
Porsche Cayman S 0-30 2.14 0-60 5.04 0-100 11.78 Reaction Time 0.27 100-0 4.10 Overall 16.46
Lotus Exige S 0-30 1.63 0-60 4.67 0-100 11.87 Reaction Time 0.50 100-0 4.23 Overall 16.60
Nissan 350Z 0-30 2.48 0-60 5.75 0-100 13.66 Reaction Time 0.69 100-0 4.45 Overall 18.80
Vauxhall Astra Sprint 0-30 2.72 0-60 5.74 0-100 13.49 Reaction Time 0.70 100-0 4.66 Overall 18.85
Vauxhall Astra VXR 0-30 2.53 0-60 6.05 0-100 14.33 Reaction Time 0.31 100-0 4.41 Overall 19.05
Renault Megane F1 0-30 2.55 0-60 6.07 0-100 15.63 Reaction Time 0.43 100-0 4.49 Overall 20.55
Mazda 6 MPS 0-30 1.87 0-60 5.98 0-100 15.51 Reaction Time 0.84 100-0 4.65 Overall 21.00
Ford Focus ASBO 0-30 2.80 0-60 6.77 0-100 16.10 Reaction Time 0.62 100-0 4.63 Overall 21.35
Vauxhall Vectra VXR 0-30 2.71 0-60 6.94 0-100 17.23 Reaction Time 0.54 100-0 4.58 Overall 22.35
Thurlby Astra 888 CDTi 0-30 2.84 0-60 6.89 0-100 17.64 Reaction Time 0.68 100-0 4.32 Overall 22.65

Also Bike v A1 GP
A1 GP 0-30 1.65 0-60 3.01 0-100 5.00 Reaction Time 0.10 100-0 3.40 Overall 8.40
Suzuki GSX-R1000 0-30 1.61 0-60 3.30 0-100 5.60 Reaction Time 0.10 100-0 5.10 Overall 10.70

Edited by hollypop on Wednesday 28th June 12:09


Why oh why oh why oh why do they include "reaction time"????

TargaFlorio

130 posts

215 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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According to evo, it's am important figure. They were testing the Dodge Ram SRT10 for example, and they said that it was a critical figure because the wide spacing between the accelerator and brake pedals wasted quite a bit of time.

kingb

1,151 posts

225 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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hollypop said:
Also included is the 0-100-0

Dunno if Porsche will be able to beat the Bugatti....

Bugatti Veyron 0-30 1.40 0-60 2.80 0-100 5.50 Reaction Time 0.20 100-0 3.40 Overall 9.9
Ariel Atom 300 0-30 1.51 0-60 3.32 0-100 6.95 Reaction Time 0.12 100-0 3.93 Overall 11.00
Caterhams CSR260 0-30 1.57 0-60 3.50 0-100 7.72 Reaction Time 0.37 100-0 3.86 Overall 11.95
Brooke Double R 0-30 1.60 0-60 3.67 0-100 8.17 Reaction Time 0.24 100-0 4.09 Overall 12.50
Porsche 911 Turbo 0-30 1.30 0-60 3.60 0-100 8.00 Reaction Time 0.25 100-0 4.25 Overall 12.50
Ford Focus WRC 2006 0-30 1.25 0-60 3.34 0-100 8.91 Reaction Time 0.45 100-0 4.19 Overall 13.57
Lamborghini Gallardo 0-30 1.64 0-60 4.12 0-100 8.82 Reaction Time 0.63 100-0 4.20 Overall 13.65
Ascari KZ1 0-30 1.79 0-60 3.97 0-100 8.58 Reaction Time 0.68 100-0 4.54 Overall 13.80
Corvette ZO6 0-30 1.97 0-60 4.29 0-100 8.66 Reaction Time 0.72 100-0 4.42 Overall 13.80
Alpina B6 0-30 2.01 0-60 4.46 0-100 9.87 Reaction Time 0.38 100-0 4.55 Overall 14.80
BMW M6 0-30 2.26 0-60 4.76 0-100 9.88 Reaction Time 0.53 100-0 4.54 Overall 14.95
TVR Tuscan 2 0-30 2.08 0-60 4.39 0-100 9.44 Reaction Time 0.86 100-0 4.70 Overall 15.00
BMW M5 0-30 2.37 0-60 4.96 0-100 10.25 Reaction Time 0.63 100-0 4.32 Overall 15.20
Audi RS4 0-30 1.87 0-60 4.49 0-100 10.61 Reaction Time 0.72 100-0 4.47 Overall 15.80
Aston Martin V8 Vantage 0-30 1.90 0-60 4.90 0-100 11.50 Reaction Time 0.15 100-0 4.16 Overall 15.81
BMW Z4M Roadster 0-30 2.06 0-60 5.04 0-100 11.46 Reaction Time 0.12 100-0 4.37 Overall 15.95
Porsche Cayman S 0-30 2.14 0-60 5.04 0-100 11.78 Reaction Time 0.27 100-0 4.10 Overall 16.46
Lotus Exige S 0-30 1.63 0-60 4.67 0-100 11.87 Reaction Time 0.50 100-0 4.23 Overall 16.60
Nissan 350Z 0-30 2.48 0-60 5.75 0-100 13.66 Reaction Time 0.69 100-0 4.45 Overall 18.80
Vauxhall Astra Sprint 0-30 2.72 0-60 5.74 0-100 13.49 Reaction Time 0.70 100-0 4.66 Overall 18.85
Vauxhall Astra VXR 0-30 2.53 0-60 6.05 0-100 14.33 Reaction Time 0.31 100-0 4.41 Overall 19.05
Renault Megane F1 0-30 2.55 0-60 6.07 0-100 15.63 Reaction Time 0.43 100-0 4.49 Overall 20.55
Mazda 6 MPS 0-30 1.87 0-60 5.98 0-100 15.51 Reaction Time 0.84 100-0 4.65 Overall 21.00
Ford Focus ASBO 0-30 2.80 0-60 6.77 0-100 16.10 Reaction Time 0.62 100-0 4.63 Overall 21.35
Vauxhall Vectra VXR 0-30 2.71 0-60 6.94 0-100 17.23 Reaction Time 0.54 100-0 4.58 Overall 22.35
Thurlby Astra 888 CDTi 0-30 2.84 0-60 6.89 0-100 17.64 Reaction Time 0.68 100-0 4.32 Overall 22.65

Also Bike v A1 GP
A1 GP 0-30 1.65 0-60 3.01 0-100 5.00 Reaction Time 0.10 100-0 3.40 Overall 8.40
Suzuki GSX-R1000 0-30 1.61 0-60 3.30 0-100 5.60 Reaction Time 0.10 100-0 5.10 Overall 10.70

Edited by hollypop on Wednesday 28th June 12:09


not seen the ultima thread story then?? the ultima 720gtr holds the record for 0-100-0 so shoudl prob top that list. also where did that list come from seems to have some random cars

cheeky

2,102 posts

263 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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hollypop said:
Also included is the 0-100-0


Corvette ZO6 0-30 1.97 0-60 4.29 0-100 8.66 Reaction Time 0.72 100-0 4.42 Overall 13.80


Amazing job they've managed to be 0.9 secs slower to 60 and 1.1 secs slower to 100 than MotorTrend!

I suspect others have been rather faster with the Gallardo too...