RE: PH Carpool: Renault Sport Spider

RE: PH Carpool: Renault Sport Spider

Monday 16th May 2011

PH Carpool: Renault Sport Spider

When window shopping goes bad (...or should that be good?)



Alex, trapped in a Spider's web. Groan...
Alex, trapped in a Spider's web. Groan...
PH devotee Alex Forster (aka C6NTO) offers his thoughts on a saucy French alternative to the Lotus Elise:

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"No doubt a large number of us have spent many a lunch break flicking through the pages of a motor mag, though this seemingly innocent time-killing exercise is responsible for my forking out a considerable sum on this little French beauty. Seemingly content with my humble 106 XSi, I stumbled across this particular example in the pages of Top Marques. Tempted by the attractive price tag and spurred on by fond childhood memories and fascination at this slightly bizarre Elise alternative, within days I'd committed myself to four years of finance. But it was worth it!


"Looking back at some of the oddities produced by Renault over the years - the Renault 5 Turbo, the Clio V6, the Avantime - it is by no means out of character for them to introduce a niche model with a very limited market; even in this financial climate they didn't hesitate to unveil the extreme R26.R.

"Unleashed to an unsuspecting public at the Geneva Motor Show over 15 years ago, the Spider boldly launched the Renault Sport brand. Not one for playing things safe, Renault neglected to equip the Spider with any creature comforts; no roof, no windows, no heater, not even servo-assisted brakes, though thankfully for us Brits, cars destined for UK shores were blessed with a windscreen. For me it is this total lack of goodies, the back-to-basics concept, that give the Spider its almost unique appeal, especially when you consider that such a product emerged from a mainstream manufacturer. Thanks largely to these facts, ownership of the Spider has proven really quite uneventful in terms of annoying niggles and dramatic failures. Sharing its 150bhp power plant with the iconic Clio Williams, maintenance and servicing is reassuringly inexpensive.


"Bearing in mind the Spider's impracticality, to have covered in excess of eleven thousand miles in five years of ownership can rightly be considered something of an achievement. Given the temperamental British weather, rarely am I faced with an opportunity to use the car with total confidence that the heavens won't open leaving me sat in a puddle of rainwater. Call me crazy if you wish, but isn't that part of the fun? Add to that the liveliness of the tail end in even remotely moist conditions and it all makes for a rather interesting experience.

"Twice has the Spider accompanied me on a continental adventure, the most recent of which saw us covering a distance of almost 3,000 miles passing through 9 countries and taking in some of the most spectacular Alpine mountain passes. With a third trip planned for this summer, the fun looks set to continue.


"There's something about this car that makes it impossible to part with, perhaps it is its character, its charm, or possibly just the fact that for the money nothing comes close to attracting the attention, the glances, the stares, and the questions from onlookers. One thing that remains indisputable is the grin stretching from cheek to cheek that results from driving one of the most distinctive and unforgettably audacious models ever to leave Dieppe."









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Frimley111R

Original Poster:

15,653 posts

234 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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I see you've got a 'roof' and wind deflectors. You've gone soft laugh

I was at Renault when these came out, we struggled to sell them mostly because the Renault brand wasn't considered sporty and the car was less practical than a Caterham. I do like them for their basic appeal and rarity.

Jduncan78963

31 posts

185 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Great looking wee car. Still looks fresh today. I remember watching them race in a BTCC support series at Knockhill. Jason Plato started out in these if I remember rightly.

C6NTO

11 posts

160 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Frimley111R said:
I see you've got a 'roof' and wind deflectors. You've gone soft laugh

I was at Renault when these came out, we struggled to sell them mostly because the Renault brand wasn't considered sporty and the car was less practical than a Caterham. I do like them for their basic appeal and rarity.
This aftermarket 'roof' was described by its manufacturer as a 'bikini hood', if I'm honest a bikini would probably offer more protection.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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I always thought this would be a wonderful looking car if it wasn't for the roll-bar, which looks like a tacked on afterthought. I suppose it fulfills a fairly important purpose, though.

I never understood why the quoted 0-60 time was so high, given the reasonable power to weight ratio and (presumably) good traction from the drive-train layout.

Schnellmann

1,893 posts

204 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Great looking car but I seem to recall the reviews from car magazines being luke-warm. Never had a chance to drive one myself.

How much do they trade for in the UK? I looked in the PH Classifieds and none for sale. Here in Switzerland I found a few but asking prices seem very steep (£28K), which can't be much different from their new price. I suppose rarity might be keeping the prices up.

Top marks for managing a European trip in one....not sure if that shows total commitment or a need to be committed....

xxplod

2,269 posts

244 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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I remember seeing one of these in the showroom when I was looking to buy an Elise. It caught my attention, but not enough to sway me from the Lotus purchase. Mad as it sounds, the Elise was a practical everyday option!

Bada Bing!

944 posts

227 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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I like them a lot. I seem to remember a few LHD's going on autotrader for about 10k a few years ago, but the only one on there just now is an RHD at twice that price. I'd have one if I had a garage. Would be interesting to see if any of the newer hot Clio engines fitted into it...

Tomoose85

1,927 posts

171 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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I never even knew these existed! Every day a school day, and all that jazz.

Not pretty is it? Must be a good drive though.

Munich

1,071 posts

196 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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The friend in the Triumph Spitfire was brave to attempt the 3,000 miles round trip. wink

Pixel-Snapper

5,321 posts

192 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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I'm sure I saw this car in sainsburys car park the other week are you nottingham based by chance?

Had a quick look over it, I'd never seen one in the wild before...

C6NTO

11 posts

160 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Munich said:
The friend in the Triumph Spitfire was brave to attempt the 3,000 miles round trip. wink
That'll be my brother, the E-Type belongs to my dad.

y2blade

56,104 posts

215 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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very nice cloud9

C6NTO

11 posts

160 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Pixel-Snapper said:
I'm sure I saw this car in sainsburys car park the other week are you nottingham based by chance?

Had a quick look over it, I'd never seen one in the wild before...
Yeah, that's right, I tend to keep it as far away from child wielding parents and trolleys as possible.

PeeRicho

10 posts

236 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Beauty! - Alex you popping to the Griffins Head this Wednesday with it? weather dependant wink

oilit

2,625 posts

178 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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ive fancied one of these for a while now - but trying to find one at sensible money that hasn't been messed with is somewhat challenging!

RatLad

266 posts

213 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Thanks for reminding me that I want one of these so badly. I know dynamically it's not quite as rewarding as my Elise but there really is something about it...

Have the values gone up? I seem to remember them being sub-£15,000...

That makes me sad.

JuniorJet

417 posts

160 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Would love to, but I can't really justify it

I think the back of the car looks slightly feminine, and also the interior looks very toy car, but i suppose that it has waterproofing properties... but that's not the purpose of this car, this is surely a driver's car just like an MX-5 or an Elise smile

/me likey

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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C6NTO, that is one very nice car there. And in my opinion one highly PH car too. Only a true enthusiast nutter would commit to such a car. I think it's wonderful!! biggrin

Real shame there aren't more about, I very occasionally have seen a yellow one at some shows, but can't even recall the last time that was.

Is yours stock or have you tinkered with it?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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C6NTO said:
This aftermarket 'roof' was described by its manufacturer as a 'bikini hood', if I'm honest a bikini would probably offer more protection.
Is that the only form of weather protection? How does the interior stand up to getting wet?

NotNormal

2,359 posts

214 months

Monday 16th May 2011
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Saw a yellow one going through Reigate a few weeks back. Great road presence (especially in the sun) and popped a grin on my face as you don't see many about.

Out of interest anyone know how many they made or even how many are in the UK?