My E36 328 Track Toy Build

My E36 328 Track Toy Build

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bulldog5046

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1,495 posts

179 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Hi Guys,

I've read alot of E36 build threads here so i'm sure your all sick of them but i wanted somewhere to keep a log of everything i've done to mine and its a good excuse to show it off smile

I had been out of the car modifying game for close to 2 years but after attending Castle Combe action day in April i got bitten with the bug for track action once again, the following day i went and bought an M3 replica 328.





it was a very tidy car with nice leather interior that i later sold on eBay for £53. The rear arches need some attention and will be repaired at some point. Importantly though, it was the right colour! i have wanted a white 328 for a few years but just never saw one and it seemed like a waste of money having another colour one resprayed.

The keypoints for my project are that it must be kept road legal as towing is not possible for me and the car must be a serious track car.

After making space on my drive for her i put in a large order with Demon Tweeks, of which i've received most of but still waiting on a steering wheel boss.

2x Sparco Rev Plus seats
2x Sparco 4-point harnesses
2x Seat mounts & runners
1x Momo Model 08 Suede wheel & Momo boss
4x Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 Alloys in White
4x Maxsport RB5 Semi-Slick tyres
Weitec Hicon TX adjustable height & dampening coilovers
Front and Rear powerflex bushes
OMP Front upper strutbrace
Polycarbonate window kit

Most of the parts have been fitted, just need to get round to doing the Bushes and as mentioned, still waiting on the boss.

Few pictures of the car being stripped and various parts fitted, in addition to the above i have also done the M50 manifold conversion.












Today is the first dat i've driven her with the new suspension and wheels/tyres and all i can say is that its phenominal, it has so much grip that i girled out of a few corners before the car showed any signs of beginning in slip, the only place i could induce a bit of understeer was circling a roundabout and the car remained very manageable, i'm really looking forward to getting out on a trackday with it!

The car is booked in with Huxley Motorsport to have a custom cage installed and the sunroof welded shut at the end of the month. Once its back i will be tidying up the interior and looking for a track event to take it to, hopefully Castle Combe as its local and a circuit i really like.

I will keep the thread updated with any progress as and when it happens.

Thanks,
Ry

soad

32,913 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Should prove a lot of fun!!! What's the weight saving achieved out of interest? That's a lot of lightening

bulldog5046

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1,495 posts

179 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Unsure of the weight at the moment, until the cage has gone in there isnt much point in getting it weighed.

ultimately the goal is as light as possible, i have heard of others getting them down to 1100kg so i will see what i can do.

The only thing i did weigh was the sound deadening i've pulled up that totalled around 10kg!

joe_90

4,206 posts

232 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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The sunroof weights a ton.. just remove the whole thing and seal+pop rivet a ally plate across it.

bulldog5046

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1,495 posts

179 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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joe_90 said:
The sunroof weights a ton.. just remove the whole thing and seal+pop rivet a ally plate across it.
That is esentially whats being done. The whole unit is coming out and the panel that seals it now removed from the unit then welded in.

will save messing about wasting money on paint if i got just a plate put in.

joe_90

4,206 posts

232 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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bulldog5046 said:
That is esentially whats being done. The whole unit is coming out and the panel that seals it now removed from the unit then welded in.

will save messing about wasting money on paint if i got just a plate put in.
The problem is that its not a tight fit, it will have a gap around it.. i was temped to do the same.. then just thought fark it.

wackojacko

8,581 posts

191 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Like this alot....

bulldog5046

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1,495 posts

179 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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joe_90 said:
The problem is that its not a tight fit, it will have a gap around it.. i was temped to do the same.. then just thought fark it.
Do you mean its not a tight fit because you removed the seal?

Although a risk of it leaking at a later date my plan was to use this seal in addition to sealant and then for the panel to be welded to keep it in place firmly.

Someone else on here has done the same, i just cant remember who!

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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What are your plans for the brakes?

minimatt1967

17,104 posts

207 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Nice project, it seems the E36 is the track day weapon of choice these days, not something I foresaw!

bulldog5046

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1,495 posts

179 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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V8mate said:
What are your plans for the brakes?
Only something i've just started looking into, ideally i'd like 4/6 piston calipers and 330mm disc's but the cost at the moment is looking a bit silly.

If i cant find anything reasonably priced i think i will leave the standard calipers and look at Pagid RS29 pads and Brembo disc's or similar.

I've ran the Pagid RS29's before and they are awesome pads.

Remind me, what have you put on yours? how are they?

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Following a heartfelt web appeal from the MD at EBC, declaring that their products had turned a corner, I went with EBC grooved discs and Yellowstuff pads.

The discs are going fine but the pads have crumbled after only two track days, c.300 miles.

I upgraded the front discs to E46 328, which required caliper carriers from that car, and, obviously, braided brake lines all round.

bulldog5046

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1,495 posts

179 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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What size disc's do you run with the E46 calipers?

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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bulldog5046 said:
What size disc's do you run with the E46 calipers?
It's not an E46 caliper, it's the E36 one, just the carrier on the back which needs changing. I got a pair through partsgateway - just be very specific with your description.

The discs are 300mm - order them for a 1998-2000 E46 328.

bulldog5046

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179 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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I see.

Just having a bit more of a look around it looks like E46 330 calipers etc can be fitted to give 325mm, but still only single piston..

have seen some Big Brake Upgrade kits for sub £1k but they dont look great. I've never heard the name StopTech before, has anyone else?

bulldog5046

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1,495 posts

179 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Not much going on this weekend really other than a bit more stripping of remaining sound deadening and other materials.

I removed the sunroof, the whole unit weighed 9.9kg's and the panel thats going back in weighed 6kg's so only a 3.9kg saving from the roof area...

I took a few pics of how she currently stands but its not that interesting to be honest






Car is off next weekend to have the cage installed smile

Cheers,
Ry

Ruskie

3,990 posts

201 months

Sunday 19th June 2011
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Love these threads. Great inspiration!

bulldog5046

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179 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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Again not much to report unforuntely, i dropped the car off on Saturday for the rollcage install by Huxley Motorsport. Huxley has promised me he will be photographing the cage as its built/installed and posting them to facebook so i will pop them up here when i see them!

looking forward to getting the car back so i can finally take it on its first trackday! there is a day at the end of July at caslte combe i want to attend if funds will allow!

EDIT: Almost forgot, i have my eyes on a set of brembo's to go on the front wink

bulldog5046

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179 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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I was bidding on eBay today on the previously mentioned Brembo calipers, unfortunately i lost out but the auction finished at just over £300, my maximum was £300, typical hey?

anyway, this sent me down a new path and i have finally chosen my brake upgrades as began ordering!

i have decided to fit a set of Porsche 996 4 pot Brembo's, this are some nice looking calipers capable of taking upto a 345mm M3 disc and should be plently capable of stopping the car, the question is, will with 345mm disc's the caliper clear the wheel? i will investigate when i have the car back.

in the mean time i've ordered the fitting bracket from the US: http://www.rallyroad.net/content/e36-and-e46-non-m...

i will get a set of calipers ordered, looking at paying £300ish for a set on ebay and then i will be able to see if i can run the larger 345mm disc's or if i will have to settle with 325mm smile

I also ordered a full sticker kit that i forgot to mention, as detailed here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

should be arriving in the next week or two smile

SteveS Cup

1,996 posts

161 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Car looks awesome and I bet it's a lot of fun... no chance of taking the M3 badge off of it though!?