Feeling Stupid...new key batteries 996tt - now not working

Feeling Stupid...new key batteries 996tt - now not working

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northnoble

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362 posts

187 months

Sunday 26th June 2011
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Bought a 2004 996TT about 5 months ago. Slowly sorting all the niggles out (almost got OPC clean bill of health) so decided to replace the battery in both key fobs.....and now neither work! Guess I will need Porsche to reprogramme them, but until then, how do you open the car without setting the alarm off (and looking a carpark tw@t!) HELP!! At the moment, when I open the car I get abot 20s to put the key in the ignition, if not the alarm goes off. Unfortunately my manual is 200miles away!!

many thanks.

Leigh996tt

3,858 posts

226 months

Sunday 26th June 2011
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Just had a look in my manual and changing the battery notes nothing else other than swapping for a new one.

Only other thing I can find is for re-activating a keyfob if the standby function has switched off, which it does if the car has not been opened for over 5 days, so maybe worth a try?

Unlock the drivers door with the key and leave the door closed. Then press the lock/unlock button (button 1) on the keyfob and hopefully it will activate it.

Pope

2,641 posts

248 months

Sunday 26th June 2011
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There is a Tech Bulletin about keys losing synchronicity when the batteries are changed. I haven't experienced the issue but have given the advice to a few people.....

Technical Information

911 Turbo

Replacing the remote-control battery (vehicle key)

Vehicle Type: 911 Turbo (996) / 911 GT2 (996)

Model Year: As of ’01 (1)

Concerns: Remote control.

Situation: Failure of remote control due to replacing battery improperly.

Note: Replacing the battery improperly can cause the processor in the remote control to operate
incorrectly so that the remote control no longer functions.

For this reason, please inform your customers who would like to purchase a battery for their remote
control, to not replace the battery themselves.

Replace the battery for the customer as described in the following to avoid a malfunction of the
processor and thus a remote control failure.

à Procedure page 2, Step 1, "Replacing the remote-control battery"

After replacing the battery, check if the remote control functions.

If the remote control does not function, the processor could have stopped.

If this is the case, the LED of the remote control either does not light when the button is pressed or
it lights continuously, i.e., longer than length of time the button is pressed.

The processor must be restarted.
à Procedure page 3, Step 2, "Restarting the processor"
The newly printed editions of the vehicle Driver's Manuals will contain a note that the battery for the
remote control should be changed by the Porsche dealer.
Tools: Screwdriver (small)
Technical Information
19.01.2004 tu9173e © Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG
Page 2 of 3 Printed in Germany
911 Turbo
99662 E 17/03
After Sales
Procedure: 1 Replacing the remote-control battery.
1.1 Take a new battery out of the package and set it aside.
1.2 Removing the battery.
Caution!
Damage to the processor due to voltage drops or voltage peaks!
>Do not press any button of the remote control directly before replacing the battery and during the replacement.
1.2.1 Carefully lift off the cover of the key grip with a finger nail or a small screwdriver.
1.2.2 Unclip battery on the recess of the top of the
battery (Figure 1, arrow 1) with a finger nail
upwards out of the holder.
1.2.3 Pull out battery from the tab (Figure 1, arrow 2).
Bild...Figure...ill...figura...fig 1
1.3 Installing a new battery.
Caution!
Damage to the processor due to voltage drops or voltage peaks!
>When installing the battery, do not press any button on the remote control and avoid repeated c ontact between battery
and contact pins.
1.3.1 Slide new battery with the positive terminal upwards under the tab (Figure 1, arrow 2).
1.3.2 Clip new battery downward into the holder.
1.3.3 Put the cover on the key grip.
1.3.4 Press together the key grip and cover tightly until the cover engages audibly.
1.4 Check the function of the remote control.
Note:
If the remote control does not function after replacing the battery, the processor could have
stopped.
If this is the case, the LED of the remote control either does not light when the button is
pressed or it lights continuously, i.e., longer than length of time the button is pressed.
The processor must be restarted.
In this case, proceed as is described under Step 2.
Technical Information
© Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG 19.01.2004 tu9173e
Printed in Germany Page 3 of 3
911 Turbo
17/03 E 96629
After Sales
2 Restarting the processor.
2.1 Remove battery as described under Step 1.2.
2.2 Inserting battery briefly with polarity reversed.
2.2.1 After a waiting time of at least 10 seconds, slide battery with the polarity of the battery
reversed (positive terminal downwards) under the tab (Figure 1, arrow 2).
2.2.2 Clip battery downward into the holder.
2.2.3 After a waiting time of approx. 3 seconds, remove this incorrectly polarized battery again.
2.3 Install battery as described under Step 1.3.
2.4 Check the function of the remote control.


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monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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^^Interesting.

Thanks. thumbup


monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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northnoble said:
until then, how do you open the car without setting the alarm off (and looking a carpark tw@t!) HELP!! At the moment, when I open the car I get abot 20s to put the key in the ignition, if not the alarm goes off.
Is 20 seconds not long enough to put the key in?

northnoble

Original Poster:

362 posts

187 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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monthefish said:
Is 20 seconds not long enough to put the key in?
Not when you have luggage etc (or piles of work stuff etc)you don't want to put down in the rain (yes it seems to alwats rain here in Scotland!!)

northnoble

Original Poster:

362 posts

187 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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"Pope"...many thanks, will try tomorrow when I am home!!

Leigh996tt

3,858 posts

226 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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northnoble said:
"Pope"...many thanks, will try tomorrow when I am home!!
I'll delete my post then............ irked

northnoble

Original Poster:

362 posts

187 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Leigh996tt said:
I'll delete my post then............ irked
Apologies Leigh996tt...but have tried this already with no joy!!!

Have now tried "resetting" the fobs and now one is atleast flashing red but no joy in locking / unlocking the doors!...OPC and lotes of money here i come

northnoble

Original Poster:

362 posts

187 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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Hmmm visit to Porsche Aberdeen and I am now £156 lighter....but have nice new key fob (that works from a good distance) and a new key code!!! Moto of story...don't change your remote battery unless you need to and if you do, be very carefull not to break it!! (Thanks to all that posted help)

rog007

5,761 posts

225 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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£156; I'm smarting for you weeping

KPE

148 posts

140 months

Thursday 13th December 2012
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Thank you for this thread, ran into problems after changing my fob battery but flipping the battery cell over for 10 seconds solved the problem so a big thumbs up. Why is changing your battery be so hard? It should be the easiest piece of car DIY that anyone could do without instructions.

njepson

15 posts

113 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Many thanks ... worked perfectly and got what appeared to be a dead key fob working perfectly again.

nebpor

3,753 posts

236 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Having this problem on my 02 spec Turbo - nothing I seem to do is fixing it and now alarm is showing both red LEDs flashing as opposed to just one

I wonder if it’s the central locking - when I sit in the car and then use the dash button to lock the doors, it clicks a few times after it locks - wonder if this means the lock mechanism is actually the problem

Pope

2,641 posts

248 months

Thursday 30th September 2021
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9x6 alarm systems are fairly straightforward; but can be affected by: water ingress - check under the passenger seat for damp. Loose connections - the two plugs on the ecu can work loose; usually after poor refitting during other work.

The first things to check:

Are there any beeps after locking or unlocking the car? There are specific warning tones emitted that can be used for diagnosis - single beep when locking; door or lid open for example.

If you get a double beep when the car is unlocked it suggests a lock synchronicity error - the door locks have switches for locked/unlock and deadlocked - if either of the lock assemblies report a different result you will get a double beep notification from the alarm horn (unless some tricky funster has unplugged it to 'stop the bloody beeping!')

If you sit in the car you'll hear the alarm unit doing its thing under the passenger seat; press lock once and you'll hear the central locking 'lock' and the relay click which is the indicator flash actuation; unlock and you'll hear the central locking 'unlock' and more relay clicks as the indicators are flashed to signify the setting. You can disarm the interior monitoring by pressing the lock button twice quickly - press once; then once again - if you did it right the indicators will stay on for 2 seconds instead of flashing.

If you get a beep if you try and lock the doors with the drivers door open, the alarm horn is working - if not, check under the cover next to the battery: there is a round metal horn unit attached to a bracket with a two pin plug connected to it - is it plugged in? Yes; horn is likely faulty. No; plug it in and repeat the test........

Single beep when locking with a door or lid open - normal warning - shut the door or lid and repeat

Single beep when locking with no door or lid visibly open - something else is triggering the warning; check the glovebox light switch (if you have a glovebox - turbos all do.....) if that is working is there an aftermarket radio fitted?? (the so-called radio contact - fitted to set the alarm off in the event of a radio removal from a locked car with windows open and interior monitoring switched off (they think of everything!))

Double beep after locking (car locks then unlocks automatically) - locking switch fault in door lock (usually passenger side)

Double beep after unlocking (car unlocks but horn beeps twice after unlocking) - unlocking switch fault in door lock

Come back with how you got on....





Edited by Pope on Friday 1st October 06:19

nebpor

3,753 posts

236 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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Thank you for that - I realised something yesterday, which is when I sit in the car and press the central locking button, whilst both doors lock immediately, there is a click click click as if something keeps trying

I’m going to try more stuff today and I’ll run through your list - i think this is indeed central locking related and thus the car is ignoring the fobs locking command!

Both fobs working properly - I can tell as when you hold the boot release button, the fob LED flashes in groups of three, meaning the CPU in the fob is properly working!

nebpor

3,753 posts

236 months

Friday 1st October 2021
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Ahah - bet the click click click is the relay - that might be the fault!