UK MOT changes for 2012

UK MOT changes for 2012

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Nigelo

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293 posts

246 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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I understand that several significant changes for the UK MOT next year are as follows:

- Any car built after 1992 that has been decatted WILL fail the MOT irrespective of emission readings.

- Batteries must be properly secured to vehicle

- Ball joint gaiters will become part of test in same way as steering bellows - Any split or defect will fail

hope this helps



andrew

10,170 posts

205 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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Nigelo said:
I understand that several significant changes for the UK MOT next year are as follows:

- Any car built after 1992 that has been decatted WILL fail the MOT irrespective of emission readings.

- Batteries must be properly secured to vehicle

- Ball joint gaiters will become part of test in same way as steering bellows - Any split or defect will fail

hope this helps
so you could put in a token "sports" cat and pass ???

MJK 24

5,669 posts

249 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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Airbag light on = fail

Towbar electrics must be operative

Spare wheel must be legal and ready for use

There's a few others too.

Defcon5

6,374 posts

204 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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andrew said:
so you could put in a token "sports" cat and pass ???
Would it be possible to just make it look like there is a cat? A shroud of some description that looks like a cat, but just hides the straight exhaust pipe inside it.

Nigelo

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293 posts

246 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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Airbag light, possibly even CEL, main beam warning light defects etc are expected to become part or test

Towbar electrics will become part of test

Although the carrier is already part of test, the Spare wheel itself will NOT become part of test. Simple example is a puncture in the spare or having a space saver, both of which would fail an MOT if in service at time of test. Other example is no spare at all. Note that Space Savers are not illegal to use in an emergency within the design limit (50km??) but cannot be fitted on test.

hope this helps

Edited by Nigelo on Sunday 17th July 11:49

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

237 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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Nigelo said:
I understand that several significant changes for the UK MOT next year are as follows:

- Any car built after 1992 that has been decatted WILL fail the MOT irrespective of emission readings.
Not if the friendly tester pulls the probe out till its mostly sucking fresh air!! biglaugh

Athlon

5,393 posts

219 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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the lambda reading will fall out of range if you do that.

Nigelo

Original Poster:

293 posts

246 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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Quite - and what part of "irrespective of emission readings" did he not understand

hope this helps

jagracer

8,248 posts

249 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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Nigelo said:
I understand that several significant changes for the UK MOT next year are as follows:

- Any car built after 1992 that has been decatted WILL fail the MOT irrespective of emission readings.
That's been part of the test for years


MJK 24 said:
Towbar electrics must be operative

Spare wheel must be legal and ready for use

There's a few others too.
Towbar electrics only includes 13 pin sockets, I've never seen a 13 pin socket in the 6 years I've been testing.
Not heard anything about the spare wheel but anything can happen between not and January.

Nigelo

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293 posts

246 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Sorry JR you are misinformed. Decatted post 1992 cars will currently pass an MOT if, repeat IF, the emissions are within spec. From 01.01.12 the cat MUST be fitted or it will not pass.

FWIW, this is from a close friend who works at VOSA - The guys you testers call when you nned clarification on rules.

hope this helps

jagracer

8,248 posts

249 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Nigelo said:
hope this helps
Not really but thanks for taking the trouble to phone a friend.

macey_j2

308 posts

192 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Hasn't someone just got a link to the official list somewhere?

Alex

9,978 posts

297 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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One has to ask the obvious question: If a car can pass emissions without a cat, then why must it have one?

Nigelo

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293 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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Not saying I agree with the new cat rule Alex but it's all part of a European directive in the supposed name of harmonisation of regs throughout the EU.

hope this helps

Durzel

12,668 posts

181 months

Tuesday 19th July 2011
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Not sure what this changes in real terms, most decatted cars would fail the emissions test which is precisely why friendly MOT testers accidentally put the probe in an entirely different cars exhaust for the duration of the test.

Like most things the system breaks down when it's left to humans to implement. As long as MOT testing is a process administered by a human there's always going to be hooky MOTs.

catso

15,081 posts

280 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Nigelo said:
the Spare wheel itself will NOT become part of test. Simple example is a puncture in the spare or having a space saver, both of which would fail an MOT if in service at time of test. Other example is no spare at all. Note that Space Savers are not illegal to use in an emergency within the design limit (50km??) but cannot be fitted on test.
Indeed, my car only has a space-saver and the Wife's car doesn't have a spare at all - I wouldn't expect either of them to fail given that this is how they were supplied, type-approved etc.

Caelum Blue

511 posts

211 months

Sunday 31st July 2011
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Alex said:
One has to ask the obvious question: If a car can pass emissions without a cat, then why must it have one?
About 20 years ago most of the major car manufacturers were developing lean-burn engines, same power for less fuel, in order to do that they need an oxygen sensor in the exhaust. Then those bright fkin sparks in Brussels decided to pass a law that if you have an oxygen sensor fitted then you must have a Cat fitted, that is why we have to pay for them to be fitted to all new cars.

Caelum Blue

511 posts

211 months

Sunday 31st July 2011
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catso said:
Indeed, my car only has a space-saver and the Wife's car doesn't have a spare at all - I wouldn't expect either of them to fail given that this is how they were supplied, type-approved etc.
I own three cars, none of which have spares, all pass the MOT fine. I do have full take you home recovery service though.

rds1210

1 posts

161 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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just took the car for mot i checked it over three weeks ago give the underneath a thin coat of waxoyl the vehicle passed the mot but the mot fellow said if the underneath is like that next year he will refuse to mot it Can he do this

I only sprayed a thin coat three weeks ago and because of the weather it as not dry out yet

HAVE OTHERS HAD THIS PROBLEM before

jagracer

8,248 posts

249 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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rds1210 said:
just took the car for mot i checked it over three weeks ago give the underneath a thin coat of waxoyl the vehicle passed the mot but the mot fellow said if the underneath is like that next year he will refuse to mot it Can he do this

I only sprayed a thin coat three weeks ago and because of the weather it as not dry out yet

HAVE OTHERS HAD THIS PROBLEM before
He could have refused to MOT it this year if he thinks it's dirty enough and nothing to do with any changes in January, take it elsewhere next year.