RE: Ferrari Enzo's Return Predicted For 2012

RE: Ferrari Enzo's Return Predicted For 2012

Tuesday 9th August 2011

Ferrari Enzo's Return Predicted For 2012

Prancing Horse product plans revealed - allegedly


Enzo - word is the next one's imminent
Enzo - word is the next one's imminent
We're already expecting Ferrari to launch its 458 Spider at the Frankfurt motor show in September (complete with retractable rigid roof), but now we can reveal the company's full product plans for the next couple of years - allegedly - thanks to a new report from Italy. (Via Automotive News.)

Following the 458 Spider's debut this autumn, look out for a hotter Scuderia version of the 458 in 2013, while the model is due a range-wide facelift in 2014. Prior to that the California gets a facelift/freshen-up in 2013, while the 599 GTB Fiorano replacement should be one of the big news stories at next March's Geneva motor show.

More intriguingly, the report also maintains the Enzo replacement project is set to go on sale in 2012. There have been stories about this car circulating for years, but little concrete evidence and no actual 'sightings' that we're aware of. Autocar briefly wrote about it earlier this year, suggesting the car would get a twin-turbo V8 and lots of active aerodynamics - however this latest report says the engine will be a normally aspirated V12.

Either way the car will make its first appearance in 2012, we're told, which just happens to be ten years on from when production of the Enzo started. (Blimey, doesn't time fly, etc. Ed.)

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mat205125

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17,790 posts

214 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Another news article based on an Autocar piece.

"Apparently", "Allegedly", "Some say", "A bloke down the pub said" .....

LongLiveTazio

2,714 posts

198 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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mat205125 said:
Another news article based on an Autocar piece.

"Apparently", "Allegedly", "Some say", "A bloke down the pub said" .....
Thing is with Ferraris, a lot of it is seemingly whispered to good customers and not splashed about so it is all rumour. At least one dealer was taking a deposit for the SA Aperta in 2006.

I think it's fair to say that Ferrari are working on another hypercar: the Millechili, XX programmes and renewed competition from McLaren are all conspiring...

McSam

6,753 posts

176 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Who the hell seriously thought it would get a twin-turbo V8?

Kong

1,503 posts

172 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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McSam said:
Who the hell seriously thought it would get a twin-turbo V8?
I agree, I can't ever imagine Ferrari using such an engine.

mat205125

Original Poster:

17,790 posts

214 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Kong said:
McSam said:
Who the hell seriously thought it would get a twin-turbo V8?
I agree, I can't ever imagine Ferrari using such an engine.
Never on their flagship car wink




chris333

1,034 posts

240 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Kong said:
McSam said:
Who the hell seriously thought it would get a twin-turbo V8?
I agree, I can't ever imagine Ferrari using such an engine.
Why on earth not? If you look at the history of their "top of the range" cars since the 80s, two have been twin turbo V8 and two have been V12, and the 288GTO and F40 are more well regarded now than the F50 at least.

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

176 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Kong said:
McSam said:
Who the hell seriously thought it would get a twin-turbo V8?
I agree, I can't ever imagine Ferrari using such an engine.
Have they ever made a good twin turbo V8 hyper/super car........oh wait hehe

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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First person to mention electricity gets a stty stick in the eye...

mat205125

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Tuesday 9th August 2011
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mybrainhurts said:
First person to mention electricity gets a stty stick in the eye...
I hope that it will use Electricity to run on ..... I'd hate it to have a compression ignition engine using the fuel that all production compression ignition engines do currently wink

McSam

6,753 posts

176 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Kong said:
McSam said:
Who the hell seriously thought it would get a twin-turbo V8?
I agree, I can't ever imagine Ferrari using such an engine.
The guys following this post need a WHOOSH parrot! He posted it with a wink as the icon hehe

Of course, I'm not forgetting the 288GTO and the F40. But the Eighties turbo craze is long gone, and Ferrari seem to have - sensibly enough - kept themselves well away from the downsizing/forced induction route. They never have seemed too interested in turbocharged cars.

Riggers

1,859 posts

179 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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mat205125 said:
Another news article based on an Autocar piece.

"Apparently", "Allegedly", "Some say", "A bloke down the pub said" .....
No... one based on an Automotive News piece smile

renrut

1,478 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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mat205125 said:
mybrainhurts said:
First person to mention electricity gets a stty stick in the eye...
I hope that it will use Electricity to run on ..... I'd hate it to have a compression ignition engine using the fuel that all production compression ignition engines do currently wink
well played.

DS240

4,681 posts

219 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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McSam said:
he guys following this post need a WHOOSH parrot! He posted it with a wink as the icon hehe

Of course, I'm not forgetting the 288GTO and the F40. But the Eighties turbo craze is long gone, and Ferrari seem to have - sensibly enough - kept themselves well away from the downsizing/forced induction route. They never have seemed too interested in turbocharged cars.
I think a turbo v8 is very likely.

Turbo is back. Every maker is downsizing and turbo-ing. Just the way it is going.

will261058

1,115 posts

193 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Hope its better looking than the last one.

johnnyreggae

2,944 posts

161 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Riggers said:
No... one based on an Automotive News piece smile
Rubbish : Luca announced all this in a public speech at an investor day with powerpoint (of course) back on 21 April 2010

mat205125

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17,790 posts

214 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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will261058 said:
Hope its better looking than the last one.
I must be one of the few that thinks that the Enzo is an absolutely stunning design, that is unique and purposeful, and devoid of the "Pagani" tinsel that litters too many hypercar designs.

Time will tell, however I think that the Enzo will be a future classic, albeit one that is firmly stuck in a particular point in history.

Chris-R

756 posts

188 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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mat205125 said:
Another news article based on an Autocar piece.

"Apparently", "Allegedly", "Some say", "A bloke down the pub said" .....
Automotive News-hound Luca Ciferri (the 'bloke down the pub'?) has reasonable form on this sort of thing, but we applaud your cynicism! smile

varsas

4,014 posts

203 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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Riggers said:
No... one based on an Automotive News piece smile
What's automotive news? Sort of like routers but for Car stuff instead of all that political nonsense?

(genuine question)

McSam

6,753 posts

176 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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DS240 said:
I think a turbo v8 is very likely.

Turbo is back. Every maker is downsizing and turbo-ing. Just the way it is going.
Fiver? drink

robinessex

11,072 posts

182 months

Tuesday 9th August 2011
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I reckon they ought to surprise everyone, and stuff a V16 in it!