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Rear windscreen wiper MOT fail?

Rear windscreen wiper MOT fail?

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Condi

Original Poster:

5,385 posts

78 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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If there is a rear wiper fitted does it need to work to pass an MOT? If so, can I just take it off (ie the motor/gearbox) and they'll pass it?

roverspeed

590 posts

103 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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if it isn't there, they can't fail it.


Cock Womble 7

29,908 posts

137 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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roverspeed said:
if it isn't there, they can't fail it.
yes

General rule of thumb - if it's there, it should work. If it's not there, it's not there.

Perd Hapley

1,719 posts

80 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Rear wiper not tested.

Not a fail even if it's there and broken.

Mroad

781 posts

122 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Condi said:
If there is a rear wiper fitted does it need to work to pass an MOT? If so, can I just take it off (ie the motor/gearbox) and they'll pass it?
Remove it, did the same on my old Integrale track car.
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McSam

6,678 posts

82 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Perd Hapley said:
Rear wiper not tested.

Not a fail even if it's there and broken.
I thought this too. You can't be penalised for something that doesn't work if it isn't required to even be there!

Mastodon2

11,979 posts

72 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Perd Hapley said:
Rear wiper not tested.

Not a fail even if it's there and broken.
A friend of mine had an old MK3 Golf GTI fail it's MOT for a broken rear wiper arm earlier this year, the snow piled up on it in winter and snapped it off, leaving a stump of the arm remaining. He got an MOT for free with an insurance company that is an arm of a large national chain of garages who have something of a chequered reputation, but MOTs seems to be a "one rule for one garage, a different rule for another" kind of affair, even though that's obviously not how it's meant to be!

Nick3point2

3,621 posts

87 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Mastodon2 said:
A friend of mine had an old MK3 Golf GTI fail it's MOT for a broken rear wiper arm earlier this year, the snow piled up on it in winter and snapped it off, leaving a stump of the arm remaining. He got an MOT for free with an insurance company that is an arm of a large national chain of garages who have something of a chequered reputation, but MOTs seems to be a "one rule for one garage, a different rule for another" kind of affair, even though that's obviously not how it's meant to be!
He should report the tester, you cannot fail a car on a rear wiper.

Although, maybe he failed it as a dangerous/sharp piece of body work?

Edited by Nick3point2 on Friday 12th August 18:14

vit4

3,504 posts

77 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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McSam said:
I thought this too. You can't be penalised for something that doesn't work if it isn't required to even be there!
Definitely not true; my nearside rear foglight got smashed, needed replacing because it was there (even though the car only could have had the offside one specced new and it would've been legal).

snowdude2910

754 posts

71 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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duck tape over them (the foglights that is)

Bacon Is Proof

3,092 posts

138 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Cock Womble 7 said:
roverspeed said:
if it isn't there, they can't fail it.
yes

General rule of thumb - if it's there, it should work. If it's not there, it's not there.
Unfortunately a rule that is often wrong, spare tyre being a prime example.

jagracer

8,152 posts

143 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Mastodon2 said:
A friend of mine had an old MK3 Golf GTI fail it's MOT for a broken rear wiper arm earlier this year, the snow piled up on it in winter and snapped it off, leaving a stump of the arm remaining. He got an MOT for free with an insurance company that is an arm of a large national chain of garages who have something of a chequered reputation, but MOTs seems to be a "one rule for one garage, a different rule for another" kind of affair, even though that's obviously not how it's meant to be!
I tested a car the other day that a speedy fitting tyre company had failed on low brake pads and no brake lights. The brake lights were fine and the pads weren't visible so it couldn't fail on them.

Mastodon2

11,979 posts

72 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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jagracer said:
I tested a car the other day that a speedy fitting tyre company had failed on low brake pads and no brake lights. The brake lights were fine and the pads weren't visible so it couldn't fail on them.
Sounds like it might just be the same company! wink

Not that I'm implying it's company policy to do gash MOTs of course, it depends entirely on the tester. Unfortunately they don't all test to the same standard!

mcford

743 posts

81 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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The rear wiper is not testable, so it can't be a failure item. If it was broken and it was failed for sharp edges, I'd argue with that, as that failure only applies to the body.

Supercat

88 posts

153 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Bacon Is Proof said:
Unfortunately a rule that is often wrong, spare tyre being a prime example.
Eh? You mean my car will fail it's MOT because it hasn't got a spare tyre?

Bacon Is Proof

3,092 posts

138 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_830.htm

If you look at the section for windscreens it is obvious that "windscreen" refers to the front screen only.

Bacon Is Proof

3,092 posts

138 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Supercat said:
Eh? You mean my car will fail it's MOT because it hasn't got a spare tyre?
The popular myth is that you don't have to have a spare but if you do it must be legal.
The truth is that you don't need a spare and if you do it can be as bald as coot/CW7 and you'll still pass as it's not a tested item. smile

Prof Prolapse

12,408 posts

97 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Bacon Is Proof said:
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_830.htm

If you look at the section for windscreens it is obvious that "windscreen" refers to the front screen only.
Would that be the screen that is subjected to to the wind then?

Bacon Is Proof

3,092 posts

138 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Prof Prolapse said:
Would that be the screen that is subjected to to the wind then?
You've obviously never driven without a rear screen then.

I was just trying to make it clear as a lot of people refer to it as the rear windscreen.

Supercat

88 posts

153 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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Bacon Is Proof said:
The popular myth is that you don't have to have a spare but if you do it must be legal.
The truth is that you don't need a spare and if you do it can be as bald as coot/CW7 and you'll still pass as it's not a tested item. smile
Thanks for the clarification - see my profile pick for why I was concerned!