RE: Spotted: 1990 Alpina B12 750i

RE: Spotted: 1990 Alpina B12 750i

Monday 5th September 2011

Spotted: 1990 Alpina B12 750i

Is this the ultimate retro-executive-performo-barge? (We reckon that term will catch on)



It’s a measure of how far executive saloon power outputs have come over the past couple of decades that for one to boast 350bhp nowadays isn’t really news.

There are a host of fast execs now with more than 500bhp, but back in 1990, when a regular BMW 750i was considered a lively performer, the 350bhp Alpina B12 version was one of the fastest big saloon cars you could get.

Sadly, the vast majority of executive performance machines reach a stage in their life when they become just a big, old car in the eyes of many. They become cheap to buy but are still expensive to run and maintain. It’s during these years their general condition deteriorates and servicing schedules become just a rough guideline at best.


This Alpina B12, however, has made it through the big-old-car years without ever having to suffer at the hands of the kind of impecunious fellow who preferred lowering springs and aftermarket alloys to correct maintenance.

The vendors describe it as being in ‘pristine’ condition, and all the pictures seem to back this up. The service record appears to be up to scratch and apparently there’s enough documentation to support the recorded mileage of 117,000.

At £11,995 it looks like top money, but does seem to be a top car. And rare. A quick scan through our classifieds turned up only this 1990 Alpina B11, which appears to be in very good order (although we’re not sure if the parking sensors are quite original).


It doesn’t appear to be in quite as good order as the B12 and, being a B11, it has half the cylinders of its bigger brother. But on the flip side it costs less than half that of the B12 and has a sight more than half the power...

Before we sign off, it would be unforgiveable of us not to point that there are a lot of other impressive machines in stock at the B12 vendor’s emporium, but to pick out just two how about this Batmobile and this Lister XJS for starters? The ‘lottery win’ list just got a little longer…





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johnpeat

Original Poster:

5,326 posts

265 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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No need to spend that much

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1858152.htm

I mean it would be rude NOT to

p.s. How Many Left says there's only 1 B12 - but has NO B11s listed (I assume they'll be filed as normal 7s?)

Edited by johnpeat on Monday 5th September 01:05

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

206 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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johnpeat said:
That B11 is the car linked to in the article - and a very different kettle of fish. It's also been for sale here at that price since God was in short trousers. That said, the featured B12 has been around a fair while yet whilst a couple of others have come and gone in the wider market place.

I've been to see that car and it is in very good condition indeed and the guys down at 4 Star Classics are a pleasure to meet, genuine enthusiasts and run an impressive operation down there. No I have no affiliation to them beyond an unhealthy obsession with old BMWs and they do have a very fine selection of them, and some very appealing other things too.

The ALPINA Register only seems to have data for UK ALPINAs post 1993, so E32 B11s and B12s are not featured. As a guideline though, in the following generation of UK RHD E38 B12s, there were 8 5.7 saloons (all SWB) and 7 6.0 saloons (1 of which was a LWB) and a single B12 5.7 Coupé in 1995 (based on the E31 Eight Series). I know of a few other E32 B12s in this country at present (2 RHD, one LHD) and they mostly seem to change hands between around half a dozen individuals along with the E38s - it's a very small world when it comes to these cars.

As such, it's a very special thing to a few people, fewer still with both the means and inclination to add it to the stable - good luck to whomever does and I hope you're a PHer. biggrin



AV12

5,305 posts

208 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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An excellent machine.

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Gad-Westy

14,548 posts

213 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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That is lovely but as said above it's been for sale for months. My gut feeling is that, nice as it is, its about £5k too expensive.

S3_Graham

12,830 posts

199 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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JohnG1 said:
The Lister has been discussed here http://mobile.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=...
The lister is Vario-robs one right??

That 7 is truely a wonderful thing to look at. Alpina at their best imo! Im currently trying to pursuade a colleague that is after a 635Csi, that this would be a better buy!

Leptons

5,113 posts

176 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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'FULLRUN' Tyres, nice!

bob1179

14,107 posts

209 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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That is a proper Alpina. Absolutely beautiful car and if I had the space, I would snap it up in a heartbeat.

smile

pacman1

7,322 posts

193 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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JohnG1 said:
The Lister has been discussed here http://mobile.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=...
scratchchin Wassup with the link? It's a strip down the centre of the page for me.

melvster

6,841 posts

185 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Very nice, big V12 smoking jacket. smokinsmokin

pacman1

7,322 posts

193 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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M4FFU said:
Doh, of course.

JulianHJ

8,740 posts

262 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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I want it. I love these big Alpina barges.

Robmarriott

2,638 posts

158 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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I'm in love with those seats!

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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melvster said:
Very nice, big V12 smoking jacket. smokinsmokin
How long before such cars are made illegal? frown

Speak to the regular person on the street and mention that you have an engine >2.0 litres and they'll have you down as an oil spilling, seal clubbing, bunny killing environment hater.

British Beef

2,209 posts

165 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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I wonder if these rare and fast barges will ever appreciate in value?

It seems regardless of numbers built or performance if it has 4 doors it is destined to wind up in a scrap heap come the first large repair bill.

A real shame, but an indication of desirablity - or lack there of!

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Robmarriott said:
I'm in love with those seats!
+ 1

Seats in all Alpina cars are so much better than the rest.

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

178 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Lovely, lovely motors those E32's, biased no doubt as an ex owner of a 735. All the same this is even nicer for being a 750i. For me the better buy is a non ALPINA, not just cheaper at half the cost or maybe a bit less and far more in keeping with luxobarge status.

As for comparing it with the B11 that's for sale , apples & oranges judging by both adverts.

theironduke

6,995 posts

188 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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British Beef said:
I wonder if these rare and fast barges will ever appreciate in value?

It seems regardless of numbers built or performance if it has 4 doors it is destined to wind up in a scrap heap come the first large repair bill.

A real shame, but an indication of desirablity - or lack there of!
If i had a big barn to store lovely old metal in then that Alpina would have a spot reserved.

As for the Lister....massive wibble factor. One of those is on the Lotto list, top 5 no less.


hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Leptons said:
'FULLRUN' Tyres, nice!
Good spot! That is very disappointing.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

157 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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1990 retro?

Am I the only one on here over 25?

Actually, don't answer that. frown