RE: Driven: The Last-Ever TVR Griffith

RE: Driven: The Last-Ever TVR Griffith

Tuesday 6th September 2011

Driven: The Last-Ever TVR Griffith

The Griff marked the end of an era for TVR, and we get to take the last-ever one for a spin




Look at the car in these pictures and, if you have more than a passing acquaintance with the TVR Griffith, you'll notice something's slightly amiss.

The registration plate bears the number '02' in its midst, marking it out as a late Griffith (as do the rear lights), and yet the oh-so-shiny cross-spoke alloy wheels look like they belong on a much earlier car.


So far, so odd. But all should become clear when you realise that this is a Griffith SE, one of the last 100 or so limited-edition cars to come out of the Bristol Road works, a mere couple of years before the company came under the stewardship of a certain young Russian.

As a TVR textbook (TVR - Ever The Extrovert, hand-delivered to me by Garlick and transported, appropriately, via his own Chimaera) explains: "After ten years of production, this Griffith 500 was the last off the line and only distinguishable from earlier models by its clear indicator lenses and different wheel design. It was a hard act to follow and its subtlety was not repeated."


In fact, as far as we can work out this car is pretty much the very last Griff to get a numberplate slapped onto its curvaceous rump, burbling out of the factory in June 2002. It's strange to think that this car, so redolent of TVR's 1990s zenith, should have shared factory space - or very nearly - with Smolenski-era cars.

And very much is a TVR of the 90s. Where the TVRs of the early 21st-century became increasingly outrageous and extreme, the Griffith remained true to that British hot-rod spirit that made TVR such an appealing brand in the first place. Simple attractive lines, hiding a simple rear-drive chassis and a plain ol' honest-to-goodness V8 up front.


Sure, the Cerbera seats and Chimaera dash of the SE cars are beginning to edge the Griff towards the deranged swoopiness of the last TVRs, but this is still a deeply traditional cabin, where wood, leather and aluminium abound, and where over-wrought styling doesn't.

It feels like a deeply traditional car when you fire up that big 5.0-litre V8 and get the car on the move, too. The driving position is hardly the last word in adjustability, but once you've wedged the seat into the right position you should find that it's actually quite comfy. The steering, gearchange and clutch pedal, meanwhile, are perhaps most politely described as 'positive' (and less politely as downright agricultural), but again this is key to the Griffith's simple, no-nonsense appeal: this is a car you have to manhandle to get the best from.


That's not to say it isn't a perfectly capable point-to-point car, though. Far from it. It might feel like a 1960s sports car, but it feels like a 1960s sports car developed in the 1990s. Consequently, the turn-in and damping are all surprisingly good (although if you're pushing hard and are used to more modern machinery you might find the brakes a wee bit weak). Not good from a purely objective point of view, you understand - if Jaguar or Nissan had brought this car out in 2002 you would not be impressed - but far better than you feared it might be.

But objective competency is not the point of cars like the Griffith - subjective enjoyment is. And the Griffith delivers bucketfuls of that. The chassis was developed from the Tuscan race car, so it feels sharp, engaged, alive, while the 320bhp V8 is raw, visceral and very powerful. Whether or not it is possessed of that full claimed compliment of horses is beside the point - it feels fast, and that is surely what counts above all.


Most importantly, the hand of erstwhile owner of TVR, Peter Wheeler is thoroughly evident in the way that the Griffith goes about its business. Wheeler was famously scathing of nannying, controlling driver aids - not even seeing the point of fitting ABS. Thus, you feel fully and completely in control of the Griffith, while at the same time feeling not entirely in control - if you step over the mark there is nothing to catch you.

But the Griffith is no monster; it treads the fine line between scary and satisfying with true delicacy. Sure, it won't suffer fools, but nor do you feel it is going to bite you provided you treat it with sufficient respect. In fact, if you're used to that particular breed of modern performance car that eats up cross-country miles faster than a hungry fat man devours chips in McDonald's (you know, the Subarishi GT-R type car), you will be more than a little surprised by a drive in a Griffith.


No, you won't get from A to B as rapidly (at least not without taking the sort of risks that would be unwise on a public road) but you will almost certainly have a heck of a lot more fun, stirring the Borg Warner T5 gearbox, revelling in the 5.0-litre V8's bellow, and all the time being aware that it is you controlling the car. And that it's up to you if you want to provoke it into doing something inadvisable.

The Griffith is, one might argue, everything that made TVR such a great brand distilled into one mouthwatering package: brutal, beautiful, no-nonsense, and fast. It's often said that they don't make 'em like this anymore. In this case, it's sadly genuinely true.

A massive thanks to The Fernhurst Motor Company for lending us their (very lovely) car.

Pics: Steve Hall








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Ex Boy Racer

Original Poster:

1,151 posts

192 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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always loved the styling of these, as well as the noise. Nearly bought one in about 1994 but have to be honest I didn't find it to be very quick on the test drive.
Went for a Caterham HPC in the end.
A photographer mate of mine swapped from a 911 into a Griffith at about the same time. Tried to take it to France on 3 occasions but broke down every time before he got to Dover! He reckoned it was the fastest thing from A to A...

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

178 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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I'm no TVR fanboy, but if there was one on my shopping list this is it. Great looking car, maybe the best looking ever TVR.

As for this comment in the artical:

''Wheeler was famously scathing of nannying, controlling driver aids - not even seeing the point of fitting ABS''

I think there's a bit bull there. I reckon the lack of ABS & a T/C system was down to costs.

Still a cracking car.

cheesyblob

370 posts

175 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Sadly we will never see cars like this anymore. We also won't see Vixen-era style cars, Wedge style cars, Cerbera style cars or even Sagaris style cars. Modern Supercars are just boring.

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Johnboy Mac said:
I'm no TVR fanboy, but if there was one on my shopping list this is it. Great looking car, maybe the best looking ever TVR.

As for this comment in the artical:

''Wheeler was famously scathing of nannying, controlling driver aids - not even seeing the point of fitting ABS''

I think there's a bit bull there. I reckon the lack of ABS & a T/C system was down to costs.

Still a cracking car.
Probably a fair point - but it's a neat marketing side-step isn't it?

nightflight

812 posts

217 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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An icon. I've had mine for seven years, and recently had my first problem, which was a split fuel pipe. Went to Classic Le Mans last year and she never missed a beat. I think it's fair to say that a standard car is not all that fast by modern standards, but it's a great place to sit on one of those rare summer days that we get. Will never sell it.

jet_noise

5,645 posts

182 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Dear All,

another vote for the styling - the best looking TVR evah smile
I know there were more striking models but this was just better,

regards,
Jet

wackojacko

8,581 posts

190 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Great write up, looks great in that blue.


I'm not a big fan of the rear lights though...... Upside down Carlton lights look far better IMO.

balders118

5,842 posts

168 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Fernhurst TVR! I used to go past that on the bus every day on my way to school. They always had some LOVELY TVRs there. I also know the owner (not sure if he still owns it).

robsco

7,825 posts

176 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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wackojacko said:
Great write up, looks great in that blue.


I'm not a big fan of the rear lights though...... Upside down Carlton lights look far better IMO.
Or even Cavalier...

Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Cracking car in a time where IMO TVR got a lot of things right. 'S' was great, Chimaera was brilliant (ok a little biased!) and the Griff was a styling master class.

End of line rear lights don't work for me. Bit of a desperate attempt to make it look different from the normal Griff.

I still think they went a bit off the money after the AJP8 Cerb.

Sticks.

8,744 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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robsco said:
wackojacko said:
Great write up, looks great in that blue.


I'm not a big fan of the rear lights though...... Upside down Carlton lights look far better IMO.
Or even Cavalier...
Yes, and the earlier wheels.

Wanted one for a long time, won't happen now. Not often is a car's styling just so right, but this was one imho.

rudecherub

1,997 posts

166 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Riggers said:
Johnboy Mac said:
I'm no TVR fanboy, but if there was one on my shopping list this is it. Great looking car, maybe the best looking ever TVR.

As for this comment in the artical:

''Wheeler was famously scathing of nannying, controlling driver aids - not even seeing the point of fitting ABS''

I think there's a bit bull there. I reckon the lack of ABS & a T/C system was down to costs.

Still a cracking car.
Probably a fair point - but it's a neat marketing side-step isn't it?
McLaren F1?

I'm not saying I agree with the opinion that ABS is nannying, but I don't think cost was an issue with the F1.

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Riggers said:
Johnboy Mac said:
I'm no TVR fanboy, but if there was one on my shopping list this is it. Great looking car, maybe the best looking ever TVR.

As for this comment in the artical:

''Wheeler was famously scathing of nannying, controlling driver aids - not even seeing the point of fitting ABS''

I think there's a bit bull there. I reckon the lack of ABS & a T/C system was down to costs.

Still a cracking car.
Probably a fair point - but it's a neat marketing side-step isn't it?
I'm not so sure.

After reading a few TVR books, and the rather lovely intro in my owners handbook from Mr Wheeler, I think the lack of these functions was very deliberate.

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Personally I see the Chim/Cerb as the zenith of TVR styling, but there's no denying the Griff its rightful place in history as the car that shot TVR into the big time. thumbup

And indeed, inconsistent build standards apart TVR did seem to do everything right during that particular era (remember the Autocar Feb 1993 edition with the new Chimaera and 'Can TVR Do No Wrong'?" in big fat letters across the cover?)...

Sticks.

8,744 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Garlick said:
I'm not so sure.

After reading a few TVR books, and the rather lovely intro in my owners handbook from Mr Wheeler, I think the lack of these functions was very deliberate.
Indeed, the ethos of TVR. can see his point, though his agrument about airbags was BS, I thought.

Smooth lines was also an important issue, hence rear-illuminated number plate, door openers etc. Pity manufacturers don't always take such care over details like that.

Japcarnut

190 posts

177 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Proper motoring!

Have my eye on a tvr as next possible car - or should I be sensible and buy an s2000, heart vs head this one!

fathomfive

9,916 posts

190 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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900T-R said:
Personally I see the Chim/Cerb as the zenith of TVR styling, but there's no denying the Griff its rightful place in history as the car that shot TVR into the big time. thumbup

And indeed, inconsistent build standards apart TVR did seem to do everything right during that particular era (remember the Autocar Feb 1993 edition with the new Chimaera and 'Can TVR Do No Wrong'?" in big fat letters across the cover?)...
I remember reading the Autocar review of the Griffith and feeling a huge amount of want.

I still do now. Want, want, want. A beautiful, timeless shape.

Those rear lights don't do much for me though.

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Fire99 said:
Cracking car in a time where IMO TVR got a lot of things right. 'S' was great, Chimaera was brilliant (ok a little biased!) and the Griff was a styling master class.

End of line rear lights don't work for me. Bit of a desperate attempt to make it look different from the normal Griff.

I still think they went a bit off the money after the AJP8 Cerb.
Funny, I prefer the Griff front end and the Chimaera rear end (although together they wouldn't work!). I find the rear of the Griff a bit slab sided, compared with the Chimaera's curvy "hips"....

Have to agree with the LE lights hurl

squirrelz

1,186 posts

271 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Podie said:
Funny, I prefer the Griff front end and the Chimaera rear end (although together they wouldn't work!). I find the rear of the Griff a bit slab sided, compared with the Chimaera's curvy "hips"....

Have to agree with the LE lights hurl
My thoughts exactly. Always been underwhelmed by the rear end of the Griff, which is a shame as it's the bit that most people see...

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Tuesday 6th September 2011
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Which is the reason the Chimaera is more revered here on the continent - export Griffs only came about in '93 when the Chim was already bagging column inches, and the more resolved rear end (as well as the slightly improved practicality/driveability) was seen as another design step away from TVRs 'kit car' roots.