Train Station Parking Ticket?
Discussion
caziques said:
Almost guaranteed it will be unenforceable.
Check to see if it could end up in the magistrates court, if not ignore it.
Plenty of threads on pepipoo about such tickets.
I belive that you're wrong, tickets in supermarket car parks are unenforcable, train station car parks are specialCheck to see if it could end up in the magistrates court, if not ignore it.
Plenty of threads on pepipoo about such tickets.
mr mac i said:
I'm sure someone will be along with more info but I can tell you that parking tickets on railway property are issued under Railway bye-laws; can't remember which section but Google them.
The bye-laws are part of the transport act 2000 iirc.
Yes that's the one, but it's quite that black and white. It depends whether the ticket was issued pursuant to a Railway Byelaw or not. A close scrutiny thereof together with any notices in the car park is needed. The distinction is important because offences under a Bye-law are criminal whereas the latter are not. The enforcement and penalty regimes are completely different.The bye-laws are part of the transport act 2000 iirc.
Railway bye-laws are made under Section 219 of the Transport Act 2000 by the Strategic Rail Authority and confirmed under Schedule 20 of that Act.
Given your original post it would appear you had a ticket, but you weren't parked in a marked bay (and not causing an obstruction).
Why do you think someone can demand money from you? Or rather why should you have to pay a penalty for something you've probably already paid for?
If you feel like donating money send me some as well.
Personally I would send Northern Rail an invoice for wasting your time.
Check on pepipoo, I can't recall a single "railway" ticket incident that was any more legitimate than one from a supermarket carpark.
Why do you think someone can demand money from you? Or rather why should you have to pay a penalty for something you've probably already paid for?
If you feel like donating money send me some as well.
Personally I would send Northern Rail an invoice for wasting your time.
Check on pepipoo, I can't recall a single "railway" ticket incident that was any more legitimate than one from a supermarket carpark.
caziques said:
Why do you think someone can demand money from you? Or rather why should you have to pay a penalty for something you've probably already paid for?
If you feel like donating money send me some as well.
Send me some as well while you're about it If you feel like donating money send me some as well.
The railways are often a special case in law, but all the railway car parks I have ever come across are managed by private companies, and their "penalty charges" have no more enforceability than those in your local supermarket.
Railway bye-laws or not, it all depends on the wording on the notice. As caziques said, look on pepipoo
I've had 3 railway station tickets so far, and not had to pay any of them. I believe that they can hunt you down like a dog if you don't pay, but their appeals 'hot line' tend to quite reasonable and usually a covering letter sorts the problem (if you're in the right).
eg, I parked up in the morning after heavy snow, but as it rained during the day you could see that I wasn't actually in a marked bay. Got ticketed, but thrown out on appeal.
eg, I parked up in the morning after heavy snow, but as it rained during the day you could see that I wasn't actually in a marked bay. Got ticketed, but thrown out on appeal.
Red Devil said:
mr mac i said:
I'm sure someone will be along with more info but I can tell you that parking tickets on railway property are issued under Railway bye-laws; can't remember which section but Google them.
The bye-laws are part of the transport act 2000 iirc.
Yes that's the one, but it's quite that black and white. It depends whether the ticket was issued pursuant to a Railway Byelaw or not. A close scrutiny thereof together with any notices in the car park is needed. The distinction is important because offences under a Bye-law are criminal whereas the latter are not. The enforcement and penalty regimes are completely different.The bye-laws are part of the transport act 2000 iirc.
Railway bye-laws are made under Section 219 of the Transport Act 2000 by the Strategic Rail Authority and confirmed under Schedule 20 of that Act.
If it is issued under the bye-laws, then it will say so and there will be the option of a court hearing.
If it is headed "Parking Charge Notice" it is likely not enforceable, if it is headed "Penalty Charge Notice" it is enforceable.
Streaky
Exercise caution on this one if ignoring.
As stated Byelaw may be in force which makes parking offence the responsibility of the owner and a £1000 fine
Look at
http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/legislation/regs/r...
in particular Article 14(2)(3)
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As stated Byelaw may be in force which makes parking offence the responsibility of the owner and a £1000 fine
Look at
http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/legislation/regs/r...
in particular Article 14(2)(3)
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