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tonker

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My CBT course people asked if when I got my full car licence (1990) - I didn't check it (yes I know), but it (my current one as it's been replaced as it's a photocard) doesn't contain anything about Category A whatever and it doesn't say anywhere on it when I passed my test.

My current licence says "p" but has no category A.

The DVLA website says, "[Law MV(DL)R regs 16 & 68]
If you have a full car licence you may ride motorcycles up to 125 cc and 11 kW power output, with L plates (and/or D plates in Wales), on public roads, but you MUST first satisfactorily complete a CBT course if you have not already done so." It does NOT say I need to have a provisional bike licence.....

I fear I know the answer to this, but does anyone definitively know, can I do the CBT for a bike not a moped on my current car licence ? Or am I going to have to cancel it and wait until DVLA send me a provisional bike licence ?

I have to say, it really isn't clear, or am I just a bit fick ?

Apologies for a question that has been asked a thousand times but the new search function is appalling....


for example, this is from the Cub90 site:

"The licence

Before you can even think about riding you must have the correct licence. If you already have a full car licence, you are automatically entitled to ride a learner bike (up to 125cc and 14.6bhp) with 'L' plates and no pillion passengers. If you don't drive already you need to apply for a provisional motorcycle or moped licence. There are a number of different licence categories you can go for, depending on your age and what licence you have already."


Edited by tonker on Thursday 22 September 21:34

Vulgar LS2

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69 months

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You should already have the provisional entitlement on your licence.

darkyoung1000

854 posts

82 months

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As long as you have a car licence, take your CBT & then ride on L plates for 2 years. You can continue to do this every 2 years without ever obtaining a motorcycle licence.

If you then take your motorcycle test, you can either do it on a 125 in which case you will gain your motorcycle licence but be restricted to 33bhp for two years, or take the Direct Access on a larger bike (500cc+) in which case you get your full licence immediately with no need to serve the 2 year restriction period.

Cheers,
Tom

tonker

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Vulgar LS2 said:
You should already have the provisional entitlement on your licence.
it isn't on it. I have it front of me.
my licence says

B - up to 3.5 ton cars
BE - as above plus a trailer
C1 - lorries up to 7.5tonnes
C1E - as above with a trailer
D1 - 9 - 16 seater
D1E - 9 - 16 seater with a trailer
f - tractor
k - mowing machine
l - electric vehicles
n - vehicles used for very short distances on public roads
p - mopeds

Tom, I get that, but half the government websits, INCLUDING DVLA, say in some places that I must have a provisional bike licence first, inferring that is the case even if I have a full car licence and have done since Noah was a boy, but others, INCLUDING THE DVLA as above, then say I don't..... - hence the confusion..

tonker

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Oh , HANG ON..... DIVVY TIME.... I just checked the paper record...... I have provisional entitlement for A - motorcycles until 2043 ..... Sorry, I must write out 1,000 times, I am a divvy..... smile
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Wedg1e

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darkyoung1000 said:
If you then take your motorcycle test, you can either do it on a 125 in which case you will gain your motorcycle licence but be restricted to 33bhp for two years, or take the Direct Access on a larger bike (500cc+) in which case you get your full licence immediately with no need to serve the 2 year restriction period.

Cheers,
Tom
Isn't the 33bhp limit just for under-21s? I can't be arsed to rummage through websites to do with driving, having just got back from Portsmouth via the most horrendous traffic jam on the A34. Took me 75 minutes to get to the next junction 2 miles away and then I had to crawl through Oxon with several cars full of Mr & Mrs Muppet who had no concept of 'making progress'... irked

BadgerBenji

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104 months

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Wedg1e said:
darkyoung1000 said:
If you then take your motorcycle test, you can either do it on a 125 in which case you will gain your motorcycle licence but be restricted to 33bhp for two years, or take the Direct Access on a larger bike (500cc+) in which case you get your full licence immediately with no need to serve the 2 year restriction period.

Cheers,
Tom
Isn't the 33bhp limit just for under-21s? I can't be arsed to rummage through websites to do with driving, having just got back from Portsmouth via the most horrendous traffic jam on the A34. Took me 75 minutes to get to the next junction 2 miles away and then I had to crawl through Oxon with several cars full of Mr & Mrs Muppet who had no concept of 'making progress'... irked
No anyone can do it, they just have to take there test on a suitable 125cc motorcycle.

RizzoTheRat

11,722 posts

78 months

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You have to be over 21 to do the direct access but anyone can do the normal test which results in the 33bhp limit

There's a sticky at the top of Bike Banter with some usefull info in it if you've not seen it already
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