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Yertis

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12,359 posts

152 months

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Friday 23rd September 2011 quote quote all
Back in the summer a guy crashed into my daughter's Ka, breaking the bumper and not much else. Admitted liability no probs there. Insurance guy came out and declared the car and insurance write off as repairs to cost more than value of car etc. Car still perfectly drivable so daughter glues bumper back together and car passes MoT, carries on driving. Insurance settlement comes through, and she asks what to do with the car now. Insurance say "whatever you like, we don't want it" so she carries on driving the taxed and newly MoT'd car. Insurance company renew insurance at appropriate time. She's now gone off to University and has left car in Gran's garage, and asked me to get it SORNed.

DVLA won't let me SORN it, saying some stuff about change to vehicle status. Is this because of the insurance write-off thing? I've never written a car off before (at least not so that it wasn't very obviously written off). What goes on in this situation? I can't find anything on the DVLA site about this.

Yertis

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12,359 posts

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Digging around a bit more it looks like I need to get a VIC done, then I can do a SORN. But if I don't do a VIC do I still need to SORN? confused

B'stard Child

7,263 posts

132 months

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Friday 23rd September 2011 quote quote all
Yertis said:
Digging around a bit more it looks like I need to get a VIC done, then I can do a SORN. But if I don't do a VIC do I still need to SORN? confused
If you can't SORN and you don't need to that's a result in my book

Meoricin

2,650 posts

55 months

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Friday 23rd September 2011 quote quote all
Yertis said:
Digging around a bit more it looks like I need to get a VIC done, then I can do a SORN. But if I don't do a VIC do I still need to SORN? confused
Surely if it needed a VIC, then she's been very fortunate getting away without it up until now?

TPS

1,860 posts

99 months

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Friday 23rd September 2011 quote quote all
If it was written off it would have been give a class of write off such as cat a b c or d.
If its cat c then it needs a vic test (vehicle identity check).Once done you can apply for a new log book from the dvla and it will show its a cat c on it.
Then you can tax it or declare it sorn.
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TPS

1,860 posts

99 months

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Friday 23rd September 2011 quote quote all
Meoricin said:
Surely if it needed a VIC, then she's been very fortunate getting away without it up until now?
Not really.The last cat c car i repaired had tax and an mot still.It was just once the tax ran out i could not renew it.

7ommy

299 posts

75 months

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Saturday 24th September 2011 quote quote all
i managed to tax mine down the post office .... as i didn't receive a reminder. I was under the impression VIC was only needed if ownership of vehicle changed if registered keeper retained salvage it was not required

Edited by 7ommy on Saturday 24th September 09:07

Yertis

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12,359 posts

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Saturday 24th September 2011 quote quote all
Its all a PITA. The car is now 70 miles away tucked up for the winter. I'll phone DVLA on Monday.

Gaspode

3,828 posts

82 months

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Sunday 25th September 2011 quote quote all
This all rather begs the question as to why, if all it needed was the bumper gluing back together, did the insurance company write the car off?

Yertis

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Sunday 25th September 2011 quote quote all
Some of the metalwork supporting the bumper was bent, and repairing that, new bumper plus spraying easily more than value of the car.

Gaspode

3,828 posts

82 months

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Sunday 25th September 2011 quote quote all
Yes, I was being a bit rhetorical there.

I can easily see that replacing the bumper support metalwork, fitting a new bumper and respraying to match at a Frod main dealer would work out to be more than the car is worth. But pulling some metalwork back into shape, a bit of epoxy resin and 5 minutes with a rattle can would probably do equally as good a job as a repair, and cost a tiny fraction of the amount.

I find it annoying that insurance companies seem intent on writing off older vehicles.

Yertis

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Sunday 25th September 2011 quote quote all
Gaspode said:
pulling some metalwork back into shape, a bit of epoxy resin and 5 minutes with a rattle can would probably do equally as good a job as a repair, and cost a tiny fraction of the amount.
Which is exactly how I introduced my 19 year old daughter to the fine art of the bodge... biggrin

saaby93

13,044 posts

64 months

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Sunday 25th September 2011 quote quote all
Yertis said:
Back in the summer a guy crashed into my daughter's Ka, breaking the bumper and not much else. Admitted liability no probs there. Insurance guy came out and declared the car and insurance write off as repairs to cost more than value of car etc. Car still perfectly drivable so daughter glues bumper back together and car passes MoT, carries on driving. Insurance settlement comes through, and she asks what to do with the car now. Insurance say "whatever you like, we don't want it" so she carries on driving the taxed and newly MoT'd car. Insurance company renew insurance at appropriate time.
Will a V62 work for taxing the car at the PO?
or how far through the DVLA SORN on line can you get?


Yertis

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12,359 posts

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Sunday 25th September 2011 quote quote all
Can't get anywhere online, beyond putting that code that's on the V5 in. Then it says "incorrect tax status or vehicle status changed" or something like that, and bumps me out.

saaby93

13,044 posts

64 months

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Sunday 25th September 2011 quote quote all
as quoted in other threads
legislation said:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002/2742/made Schedule 4 which defines SORN, and specifically to Part 1 Section 1(1)

[i]“the required declaration” means a declaration made to the Secretary of State by
a person surrendering a vehicle licence
or
the keeper of a relevant vehicle to the effect that (except for use under a trade licence)he does not for the time being intend to
use or keep the vehicle on a public road
and
will not use or keep the vehicle on a public road without first taking out a vehicle licence (or if appropriate a nil licence) for the vehicle[/i]
You can SORN any relevant vehicle
DVLA's big computer may have a view on what is a relevant vehicle

Yertis

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12,359 posts

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Sunday 25th September 2011 quote quote all
Well that's the thing, I think the big computer no longer recognises that the car even exists.

shushu

44 posts

64 months

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Sunday 25th September 2011 quote quote all
I've got a Cat C that hasn't had a VIC. So far I have found that I don't receive tax reminders anymore and also I cant tax the car online.

The only way to tax it is at the Post office. You could try filling out form V890 and see if they will sorn it for you that way at the Post Office.

Yertis

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Monday 26th September 2011 quote quote all
shushu said:
I've got a Cat C that hasn't had a VIC. So far I have found that I don't receive tax reminders anymore and also I cant tax the car online.

The only way to tax it is at the Post office. You could try filling out form V890 and see if they will sorn it for you that way at the Post Office.
Thanks, I'll give that a try.
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