New EU meddling means 2012 MOT spells end of ECU/Engine mods

[lrs777]

This is just the start... how much longer before wheels and suspension are also legislated against?

http://www.the-ace.org.uk/stricter-mot-test-from-2...

Member states required to implement by 31st Dec 2011

The new MOT in 2012 will include

"Engine performance:

(a) Control unit illegally modified.

(b) Illegal engine modifications. "

Currently we do not have a list of illegal engine tuning parts in this country but the EC is looking at restrictions across the board, particularly as OEM are pressing against tuning of their ECU software, maintaining that it is their property, regardless of the vehicles sale.

What can we do? Probably nothing we have no democratic system anymore and all EU policy becomes law.

[Prof Prolapse]

Let's have a go slow protest on the motorway.

[RevYob]

Is the EU even going to be around for much longer? Utter fkwits.

[danyeates]

This is very old news. I believe it's understood this isn't implying to performance remaps as it's impossie to detect as long as it falls within emissions etc.

[ShayneJ]

lrs777 said:

This is just the start... how much longer before wheels and suspension are also legislated against?

http://www.the-ace.org.uk/stricter-mot-test-from-2...


"Engine performance:

(a) Control unit illegally modified.

(b) Illegal engine modifications. "

(a) Unless the MOT station happens to have a the tuning kit rolling road etc
how could you test it?

(b) unless obvious like an induction kit or a decat pipe. as above?


I really dispare at those self serving dictatorial wkers in Brussels

[lescombes]

If that's the case and an EU wide MOT is brought here then we want to be like CT in France....4yrs old before test then2yrs between tests and those of us with classics of 30yrs or more are 5 yr tests

[NiceCupOfTea]

Will they be getting the multimeter out and checking the resistances across the pots on my APC then? If they can tell me what it should have been as standard I'll buy them a pint, the combined wisdom of all the Saab tuning sites doesn't have a definitive answer.

What a set of bell ends. Nothing better to do than poke their noses in where they're not wanted.

[Changedmyname]

danyeates said:

This is very old news. I believe it's understood this isn't implying to performance remaps as it's impossie to detect as long as it falls within emissions etc.

Agreed, according to Bluefin my remap is undetectable,as said emissions are the pointer.

[Ozzie Osmond]

Lot of fuss about nothing. It doesn't seem that long ago everyone was up in arms about being forced to have a catalyst or forced to use fuel injection.

There will still be good cars and bad cars whatever the regulations say. Just make sure you buy the good ones!

[lrs777]

danyeates said:

This is very old news. I believe it's understood this isn't implying to performance remaps as it's impossie to detect as long as it falls within emissions etc.

that may be the case but how many modified cars only have a remap?
Also a simple look at peak fuel flows vs a reference would show a remap I think?
Either way it's just the start and we are powerless to stop it (well apart from a vote for UKIP perhaps? but even that according to this bloke is a quango to
http://eutruth.org.uk/

[Changedmyname]

danyeates said:

This is very old news. I believe it's understood this isn't implying to performance remaps as it's impossie to detect as long as it falls within emissions etc.

Agreed ^^ Bluefin say my remap is undetectable,as long as the emissions are right for the MOT then on problem.

Sorry for double post,laptop has the wobbles.

Edited by Changedmyname on Monday 26th September 22:09

[lrs777]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Lot of fuss about nothing. It doesn't seem that long ago everyone was up in arms about being forced to have a catalyst or forced to use fuel injection.

There will still be good cars and bad cars whatever the regulations say. Just make sure you buy the good ones!

I guess you don't own or want to own a modified car?

[lrs777]

Changedmyname said:

Agreed ^^ Bluefin say my remap is undetectable,as long as the emissions are right for the MOT then on problem.

OBD2 could show fuel flow i believe - easy to see that it had been remapped?

[stevieb]

What happens with the dealer fit remaps like the Prodrive pack for Subaru? these are not type approved and fitted after registration to get round the emissions regs.

[The Lukas]

I believe it will be pretty costly to try and enforce. Nothing will change.

[lrs777]

The Lukas said:

I believe it will be pretty costly to try and enforce. Nothing will change.

mot tester sees turbo on atmo car - fails it. cost zero. cost to owner?
i wish you were right. german laws are tough enough for modded cars.
they've just stitched up motorcyclists?!

[stevieb]

lrs777 said:

mot tester sees turbo on atmo car - fails it. cost zero. cost to owner?
i wish you were right. german laws are tough enough for modded cars.
they've just stitched up motorcyclists?!

atmo??

[The Black Flash]

As yet, there isn't such a think as an "illegal engine mod" AIUI, not in this country anyway. Though I'm sure that will change, eventually. But I don't think anything will change in 2012.
I do wish they'd feck off though.

[NiceCupOfTea]

stevieb said:

atmo??

atmospheric = normally aspirated = non turbo

[Ikemi]

stevieb said:

lrs777 said:

mot tester sees turbo on atmo car - fails it. cost zero. cost to owner?
i wish you were right. german laws are tough enough for modded cars.
they've just stitched up motorcyclists?!

atmo??

I'm guessing he means 'atmosphere', or naturally aspirated.