My bmw 328i sport????
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MagicalTrevor said:
Certainly:
Hi Guys and Gals, I've got a query about my BMW E36 328i Sport. Well here goes; does anyone know whether the BMW E36 M3 3 litre exhaust will fit onto my 328i? It's from the manifold to back box???
It may not be perfect but it's a start!
Okay, who called the grammar police?.Hi Guys and Gals, I've got a query about my BMW E36 328i Sport. Well here goes; does anyone know whether the BMW E36 M3 3 litre exhaust will fit onto my 328i? It's from the manifold to back box???
It may not be perfect but it's a start!
I'm sure a less sanctimonious and more relevant response would have been appreciated by the OP!.
(The strange thing is, despite feeling a need to correct the OP's grammar and spelling, you still seem to be perfectly capable of understanding the message that they were attempting to convey, which is surely the true art of communication? At the same time, you've managed to add absolutely nothing of any relevance to the issue at hand! Still, I'm sure you are incredibly proud of yourself so well done you!)
4rephill said:
Okay, who called the grammar police?.
I'm sure a less sanctimonious and more relevant response would have been appreciated by the OP!.
(The strange thing is, despite feeling a need to correct the OP's grammar and spelling, you still seem to be perfectly capable of understanding the message that they were attempting to convey, which is surely the true art of communication? At the same time, you've managed to add absolutely nothing of any relevance to the issue at hand! Still, I'm sure you are incredibly proud of yourself so well done you!)
Thank you, glad you appreciated it I'm sure a less sanctimonious and more relevant response would have been appreciated by the OP!.
(The strange thing is, despite feeling a need to correct the OP's grammar and spelling, you still seem to be perfectly capable of understanding the message that they were attempting to convey, which is surely the true art of communication? At the same time, you've managed to add absolutely nothing of any relevance to the issue at hand! Still, I'm sure you are incredibly proud of yourself so well done you!)
I'm not expecting perfection from every post, but a minimum standard should be expected.
kev b said:
I am sure I remember a thread on one of the BMW forums where a number of owners had fitted 328i exhausts to their M3 because they are way lighter and less restrictive than the massive M3 system. I am sure a quick search would turn up the info you need.HTH
Not according to this thread (although it is based on US M3's):http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/e36-3-series/177038-...
Pretty much all of them state that the M3 exhaust is heavier and that there are no real performance gains, only a bit of extra sound. Most on that site are also saying that the standard exhaust hangers are not suitable for the extra weight.
TBH, it all sounds like a lot of effort for too little gain.
Even if the UK M3 is different, I just can't see the big advantage of fitting it over the standard exhaust.
im bored the now
just to give some clarification on the matter
Both types of M3 exhaust, 3.0 and 3.2 will fit the M52 engines
its best to fit the 3.2 version (S52) as it already has the lambda sensor bosses fitted in the correct position, in the manifolds
the 3.0 version (S50) has the lambda bosses positioned just before the catalytic converters although its not a big problem it saves time and effort to position the lambda bosses in the correct place
Fitting the manifold is a bit of a nightmare, ive seen others splitting the steering shaft to gain the nessecary clearance
the nuts holding the original manifold on will probably be ceased to the studs
they may snap the studs so it is imperative that they are given a good soaking in penetrating fluid before you attempt removal
How much power can be gained from fitting the M3 exhaust is debateable, some say only 1 or 2 bhp others say up to 10 bhp, there are too many factors to say a specific number and a few will argue that the increased weight of the exhaust (it is damn heavy) will negate any power gain
i do intend to fit this exhaust to my M52 powered 318iS sometime soon, its going to be fun
just to give some clarification on the matter
Both types of M3 exhaust, 3.0 and 3.2 will fit the M52 engines
its best to fit the 3.2 version (S52) as it already has the lambda sensor bosses fitted in the correct position, in the manifolds
the 3.0 version (S50) has the lambda bosses positioned just before the catalytic converters although its not a big problem it saves time and effort to position the lambda bosses in the correct place
Fitting the manifold is a bit of a nightmare, ive seen others splitting the steering shaft to gain the nessecary clearance
the nuts holding the original manifold on will probably be ceased to the studs
they may snap the studs so it is imperative that they are given a good soaking in penetrating fluid before you attempt removal
How much power can be gained from fitting the M3 exhaust is debateable, some say only 1 or 2 bhp others say up to 10 bhp, there are too many factors to say a specific number and a few will argue that the increased weight of the exhaust (it is damn heavy) will negate any power gain
i do intend to fit this exhaust to my M52 powered 318iS sometime soon, its going to be fun
disco!!!! said:
im bored the now
just to give some clarification on the matter
Both types of M3 exhaust, 3.0 and 3.2 will fit the M52 engines
its best to fit the 3.2 version (S52) as it already has the lambda sensor bosses fitted in the correct position, in the manifolds
the 3.0 version (S50) has the lambda bosses positioned just before the catalytic converters although its not a big problem it saves time and effort to position the lambda bosses in the correct place
Fitting the manifold is a bit of a nightmare, ive seen others splitting the steering shaft to gain the nessecary clearance
the nuts holding the original manifold on will probably be ceased to the studs
they may snap the studs so it is imperative that they are given a good soaking in penetrating fluid before you attempt removal
How much power can be gained from fitting the M3 exhaust is debateable, some say only 1 or 2 bhp others say up to 10 bhp, there are too many factors to say a specific number and a few will argue that the increased weight of the exhaust (it is damn heavy) will negate any power gain
i do intend to fit this exhaust to my M52 powered 318iS sometime soon, its going to be fun
Soo much effort, for soo little gain!just to give some clarification on the matter
Both types of M3 exhaust, 3.0 and 3.2 will fit the M52 engines
its best to fit the 3.2 version (S52) as it already has the lambda sensor bosses fitted in the correct position, in the manifolds
the 3.0 version (S50) has the lambda bosses positioned just before the catalytic converters although its not a big problem it saves time and effort to position the lambda bosses in the correct place
Fitting the manifold is a bit of a nightmare, ive seen others splitting the steering shaft to gain the nessecary clearance
the nuts holding the original manifold on will probably be ceased to the studs
they may snap the studs so it is imperative that they are given a good soaking in penetrating fluid before you attempt removal
How much power can be gained from fitting the M3 exhaust is debateable, some say only 1 or 2 bhp others say up to 10 bhp, there are too many factors to say a specific number and a few will argue that the increased weight of the exhaust (it is damn heavy) will negate any power gain
i do intend to fit this exhaust to my M52 powered 318iS sometime soon, its going to be fun
You'd be better off fitting a custom exhaust!
4rephill said:
MagicalTrevor said:
Thank you, glad you appreciated it
I'm not expecting perfection from every post, but a minimum standard should be expected.
And yet you understood the message that was being conveyed without any difficulty! I'm not expecting perfection from every post, but a minimum standard should be expected.
Calling MagicalTrev sanctimonious is a case of "the pot calling the kettle black".
4rephill said:
Not according to this thread (although it is based on US M3's):
http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/e36-3-series/177038-...
Pretty much all of them state that the M3 exhaust is heavier and that there are no real performance gains, only a bit of extra sound. Most on that site are also saying that the standard exhaust hangers are not suitable for the extra weight.
TBH, it all sounds like a lot of effort for too little gain.
Even if the UK M3 is different, I just can't see the big advantage of fitting it over the standard exhaust.
US M3's dont even have a real ///M engine. Its a warmed over M52 about 240BHP.http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/e36-3-series/177038-...
Pretty much all of them state that the M3 exhaust is heavier and that there are no real performance gains, only a bit of extra sound. Most on that site are also saying that the standard exhaust hangers are not suitable for the extra weight.
TBH, it all sounds like a lot of effort for too little gain.
Even if the UK M3 is different, I just can't see the big advantage of fitting it over the standard exhaust.
disco!!!! said:
3.2 version (S52) ... 3.0 version (S50)
Both the UK E36 M3 engines are S50s. The 3.0 is designated S50 B30, the Evo's 3.2 is S50 B32. The S52 is the US market 3.0 M3 engine with around 240bhp, no ITBs and is a warmed over M52 B28 (328i engine).
disco!!!! said:
i do intend to fit this exhaust to my M52 powered 318iS sometime soon, its going to be fun
There is no M52 powered 318iS as all M52s are six cylinder engines.So either you've transplanted in a 323/328i engine or it has an M42 B18 or M44 B19 engine. It might help the OP to clarify.
OP, are you doing this to try and increase power? If you haven't already done so, there'd be more gained by removing the M52's restrictive inlet manifold and throttle and replacing it with one from an M50 engine (early E36 320i and 325i).
Edited by Zwolf on Saturday 7th January 18:56
Zwolf said:
There is no M52 powered 318iS as all M52s are six cylinder engines.
So either you've transplanted in a 323/328i engine or it has an M42 B18 or M44 B19 engine. It might help the OP to clarify.
OP, are you doing this to try and increase power? If you haven't already done so, there'd be more gained by removing the M52's restrictive inlet manifold and throttle and replacing it with one from an M50 engine (early E36 320i and 325i).
arse i got a bit mixed up there So either you've transplanted in a 323/328i engine or it has an M42 B18 or M44 B19 engine. It might help the OP to clarify.
OP, are you doing this to try and increase power? If you haven't already done so, there'd be more gained by removing the M52's restrictive inlet manifold and throttle and replacing it with one from an M50 engine (early E36 320i and 325i).
Edited by Zwolf on Saturday 7th January 18:56
it is a S50B32 exhaust
ive transplaned a M52 2.8 to a 318iS
The m3 exhaust will fit, however idealy you need the 3.2 system as the lambda sensors are in the manifolds, the 3.0 are in the cats, that is the only difference, the m3 system is heavier but the 328 is no lightweight, no power gains but the car sounds much much better, id imagine it would work well with the 2.5 manifold conversion, decent performance exhausts cost a lot of money, m3 ones with patience can be brought cheap on gaybay, go for it, i did on my 328 when i had one.
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