Another Porsche warranty question ..dull I know

[mrdemon]

Say a car was brought from Porsche 6 months ago so has a Porsche warranty, if the car is sold private it's transferable.

But if it goes to a non Porsche dealer it was voided at one point in this big Porsche warranty issue a year or so back.

What is the case now if I buy a car from a Non Porsche dealer but it still has Porsche warranty on it, can it be transfered over to me ?
Or has it been lost/voided.

[Ekona]

Warranty is only transferable from an OPC or from a private seller. If the car has been sold from a non-OPC then the warranty is lost, regardless if it had warranty before it was sold to the non-OPC.

At least, I think that's what you're asking?

[mrdemon]

yes, it is strange how there is a warranty but there is not lol

[gsewell]

I think it may be a legal issue. Most guarantees are insurance policies. As such, you are not allowed two policies that cover the same risk. Hence any prior policy is null and void if superseded by a newer policy.

[EVOeng]

Technically if the Porsche dealer found out, the warranty would be void, as long as the car has not been registered to the dealer, then I guess you can get away with it. It is a common occurrence.

[mrdemon]

there will be no new one the car has a warranty and if sold private is transferable.

now if I buy a car it might not be transferable, but it also might be if it's a SOR sale

point is the warranty is worth a lot of money and a deal maker/breaker for me buying from a 3rd party over an OPC which now have 2 years warranty.

So if the cars a SOR then you can transfer the warranty no issue.

I wish OPC's and 911 Virgin would both sort out their warranty issues.

Edited by mrdemon on Tuesday 18th October 16:34

[Magic919]

gsewell said:

I think it may be a legal issue. Most guarantees are insurance policies. As such, you are not allowed two policies that cover the same risk. Hence any prior policy is null and void if superseded by a newer policy.

This is inaccurate. There is no law against multiple insurance policies.

[markiii]

mrdemon said:

there will be no new one the car has a warranty and if sold private is transferable.

now if I buy a car it might not be transferable, but it also might be if it's a SOR sale

point is the warranty is worth a lot of money and a deal maker/breaker for me buying from a 3rd party over an OPC which now have 2 years warranty.

So if the cars a SOR then you can transfer the warranty no issue.

I wish OPC's and 911 Virgin would both sort out their warranty issues.

Edited by mrdemon on Tuesday 18th October 16:34

easy fix

get them to have a 111 point check done, OPC will tell you whether it would be accepted under warranty. If the answer is yes, the supplier will give you at least 3 month warranty. That covers you for the 3 month wait before an OPC warranty can be taken out.

In 3 months go get your warranty, when I bought mine a condition of sale was it passed a 111 point check at an OPC and all servicing was brought up to date at the OPC

[Nano2nd]

markiii said:

easy fix

get them to have a 111 point check done, OPC will tell you whether it would be accepted under warranty. If the answer is yes, the supplier will give you at least 3 month warranty. That covers you for the 3 month wait before an OPC warranty can be taken out.

In 3 months go get your warranty, when I bought mine a condition of sale was it passed a 111 point check at an OPC and all servicing was brought up to date at the OPC

this ^ well as long as the 3 months warranty you get from the dealer covers everything... i.e. no claim limit

[911p]

mrdemon said:

I wish OPC's and 911 Virgin would both sort out their warranty issues.

Which issues do 911V have? We got a years warranty on the 996, and it's been unbelievably comprehensive.

[mrdemon]

911v well they say it all on the web site.

bug price no warranty/service or any thing (cannot even be legal selling as a dealer anyway)
pay 2k extra and get a wopping 3 months warranty.

to quote their retail price
"They look for faults that need correcting and we then correct those faults and stand by the car for 3 months or 3,000 miles which ever comes first."

so for 2k they look for faults, well the bug price car should NOT be sold with faults anyway, then you get a 3 month warranty, lol thats 2k well spent then.

Then you have extended warranty, so even though you have paid 2k extra so far for a 3 month one you can offer to pay annother £400 for a 12 month engine warranty, but there is small print, if it needs a new engine you have to pay another 3k up front.

SO worse case you buy a new car say a C2S for 30k opt for retail price and extra engine warranty, but the engine lets go which seems more common than not atm reading on here.

You think the car is under warranty but it needs a new engine, at that point it will have cost you 5.4k to get a new engine under their warranty.

so thats worse case I know , how about best case

you buy a C2s at bug price and a week later the alternator failed,to quote "Again, if an alternator failed that cost £300 to cure that would be down to you."

so I read it as you buy a car at bug price and it goes wrong , hard luck !!!

Now I know Henry stands by his sales and people are happy, but it's about time he changed the web site,bug price and warranty thing, it stinks.

[mrdemon]

911p said:

Which issues do 911V have? We got a years warranty on the 996, and it's been unbelievably comprehensive.

a 12 month warranty is not on their web site, as I said 911V customers are happy and Henry seems to stand by his cars which is good to know.

So again HENRY change the web site and wording on the warranty page if you offer more tell every one.

[Henry-F]

mrdemon said:

911v well they say it all on the web site.

bug price no warranty/service or any thing (cannot even be legal selling as a dealer anyway)
pay 2k extra and get a wopping 3 months warranty.

to quote their retail price
"They look for faults that need correcting and we then correct those faults and stand by the car for 3 months or 3,000 miles which ever comes first."

so for 2k they look for faults, well the bug price car should NOT be sold with faults anyway, then you get a 3 month warranty, lol thats 2k well spent then.

Then you have extended warranty, so even though you have paid 2k extra so far for a 3 month one you can offer to pay annother £400 for a 12 month engine warranty, but there is small print, if it needs a new engine you have to pay another 3k up front.

SO worse case you buy a new car say a C2S for 30k opt for retail price and extra engine warranty, but the engine lets go which seems more common than not atm reading on here.

You think the car is under warranty but it needs a new engine, at that point it will have cost you 5.4k to get a new engine under their warranty.

so thats worse case I know , how about best case

you buy a C2s at bug price and a week later the alternator failed,to quote "Again, if an alternator failed that cost £300 to cure that would be down to you."

so I read it as you buy a car at bug price and it goes wrong , hard luck !!!

Now I know Henry stands by his sales and people are happy, but it's about time he changed the web site,bug price and warranty thing, it stinks.

Hi there.

You haven't quite understood our policy correctly. Let me try to explain again how we work.

At the retail price we would send the car away for a service regardless of whether one is due and act on the recommendations found for additional work. We would then stand to the car for 3 months or 3,000 miles which ever comes first. Crucially it wouldn't matter if a fault was present at the time of purchase or not, we would simply correct it free of charge. Now our retail price is more of a theoretical price because you would never pay it & I'll explain why.

We offer cars at our bug price, a £2,000 saving on the retail price. At this price there is the following safety net. Should something go wrong which disadvantages you against someone paying the retail price, (ie it costs more to fix than the difference between what you paid for the car and the retail price), then we will step in and pay the difference. In other words you can change your mind how you want to buy the car at any time during the 3 month / 3,000 mile guarantee of the retail price.

You will note that I said "the difference you paid for the car" and the retail price. This means if you get us to sort out any service work etc before you collect the car that is taken into account when deciding the maximum contribution you would have to pay before we get involved.

Finally at any of the prices there is a £400 warranty which covers component breakage inside the engine or gearbox for 12 months. There is no excess on a repair, if we fit a brand new engine from Porsche with a 2 year guarantee then there is a £3,000 betterment contribution. There is no financial limitation to any of our cover other than the value of the vehicle.

Nothing contained in our guarantee policies is intended to deprive you of your statutory rights.


So why do we run this somewhat unusual scheme? It's been running successfully for around 12 years now by the way.

I was fed up with sales outlets saying they were going to service a car before it left them only to give the thing a wipe over with an oily rag, change a couple of filters and stamp the book. I remember a Porsche 928 bought off a well known marque specialist which the guy wasn't getting on with and sold to us. It had "just been fully serviced" when he got the car so would need nothing doing to it and had done 60,000 miles on the nail. The only problem was, said garage hadn't bothered to change the cam belt despite being due and so we had to have an awkward conversation with him. Better that than the belt snapping some while down the line because it hadn't been changed.

With our scheme you know exactly what's been done to the car before you pick it up.

There is another reason why we operate the scheme and that's because I'm not sure the laws governing the sale of used cars and the buyer's rights are strong enough in some areas. The key failing for me is the fact that a fault has to be present on the car at the time of sale in order for it to qualify for repair under a dealer's statutory obligations. With us there is no such requirement. Yes, early on it's the job of the dealer to prove the fault wasn't there but in most cases that isn't hard. We want to provide a reason for buying off us as specialists and stay with during the early part of your ownership to allow you to be sure you haven't bought a pup or are just unlucky.

Different people want different levels of hand holding from us when they buy a car and this works well. We have to police it and there are times we contribute outside of the terms of the scheme to ensure fair play.

I hope that explains things a little better.

Henry

[Henry-F]

mrdemon said:

a 12 month warranty is not on their web site, as I said 911V customers are happy and Henry seems to stand by his cars which is good to know.

So again HENRY change the web site and wording on the warranty page if you offer more tell every one.

Hi there.

The warranty is outlined on our website in the section which explains how our pricing works:

http://www.911virgin.com/porsche/prices/ second paragraph from the bottom.

Hopefully that answers your requirements

All the best


Henry

[Gibbo205]

markiii said:

easy fix

get them to have a 111 point check done, OPC will tell you whether it would be accepted under warranty. If the answer is yes, the supplier will give you at least 3 month warranty. That covers you for the 3 month wait before an OPC warranty can be taken out.

In 3 months go get your warranty, when I bought mine a condition of sale was it passed a 111 point check at an OPC and all servicing was brought up to date at the OPC

Exactly what I did.

Selling dealer had OPC do 111-point check, which showed up rads, coils as amber. I purchased car. Had Mike at S&C change everything with OE parts what 111 point check discovered, plus a full major service.

3 months later take to OPC with all my X51 mods on the car too, OPC pass car. Some saddo says my car is modded, OPC re-check the car, get in touch with Reading and Porsche Germany, wait a week. Porsche Germany confirm and car has 2yr warranty with OPC.

[DSM2]

Gibbo205 said:

markiii said:

easy fix

get them to have a 111 point check done, OPC will tell you whether it would be accepted under warranty. If the answer is yes, the supplier will give you at least 3 month warranty. That covers you for the 3 month wait before an OPC warranty can be taken out.

In 3 months go get your warranty, when I bought mine a condition of sale was it passed a 111 point check at an OPC and all servicing was brought up to date at the OPC

Exactly what I did.

Selling dealer had OPC do 111-point check, which showed up rads, coils as amber. I purchased car. Had Mike at S&C change everything with OE parts what 111 point check discovered, plus a full major service.

3 months later take to OPC with all my X51 mods on the car too, OPC pass car. Some saddo says my car is modded, OPC re-check the car, get in touch with Reading and Porsche Germany, wait a week. Porsche Germany confirm and car has 2yr warranty with OPC.

Did you have to pay for another 111?

[911p]

mrdemon said:

A 12 month warranty is not on their web site

[sidicks]

911p said:

"it's self"

Come on Henry, I thought you were better than that...!

Sidicks

[911p]

May I also add that the £400 warranty is massively comprehensive, even issues which aren't on the warranty list have been dealt with superbly by 911 Virgin.

[Magic919]

sidicks said:

911p said:

"it's self"

Come on Henry, I thought you were better than that...!

Why? It's exactly how he writes on here.