Piper cams and trickle charger advice

[Scooby P1]

Not sure if anyone has read the latest EVO? ECOTY edition.

There's an ad near the back talking of piper cams made for Duratec Ford engines. I don't think our Noble engines are Duratec but I imagine Piper may have made cams for our engines in the past? The 3.0 GTO-3?

Is this an option for upgrade combined with remap at all as a mod?

Not wanting to start another thread, can anyone recommend a trickle charger on a car that will be used over the winter but could be left untouched for more than 2 weeks at a time? Any help welcomed so I dont risk a flat battery after a month of no use, any other issues to look out for with a month of nonuse?

Thanks all
Lawrence

[C&C]

For a trickle charger, I'd definitely recommend the ctek 3600

I did a load of research before getting one after having the battery go flat and need replacing - most people go Ctek or Optimate.

I've had one on the Noble and one on the Skyline for the last 3 years and can't fault them. The noble sometimes has been left for a couple of months during dodgy winter weather with absolutely no issues.

[Gadgeroonie]

Yes Piper can do you some cams no problem

my advice stick to the stock ex cam and fit an st220 inlet

[Scooby P1]

C&C thanks for your help on that. Don't suppose there are any out there that don't need plugging in to the mains? Probably a dim question but I may struggle to have a mains socket...but if not I'll find one!

Gadgeroonie said:

Yes Piper can do you some cams no problem

my advice stick to the stock ex cam and fit an st220 inlet

Gadge, cams with a remap you reckon not as much improvement as the ST220 inlet? Are they easy to come by? Guessing they a not cheap.

P.s. Not sure mines ever been mapped so with no changes at all do you reckon Jetstream would be able to surprise me from how it is now?
Cheers

[Spindoctor]

Scooby P1 said:

Not wanting to start another thread, can anyone recommend a trickle charger on a car that will be used over the winter but could be left untouched for more than 2 weeks at a time? Any help welcomed so I dont risk a flat battery after a month of no use, any other issues to look out for with a month of nonuse?

I've been using an AccuMate charger/maintainer for the past year - no problems with it.

[AMG Merc]

CTek for me too - Costco used to stock them for around £35 including VAT

[andygtt]

the piper cams are for a NA engine so not better than the std ones, I actually had a set and sold them because they were unsuitable for a hight power turbo engine.

[951]

Does the ST220 inlet fit straight on and what kind of improvements is it supposed to give?

btw - Andy, you have more mail....

Regards

Graham

[andygtt]

not had any more emails!

also not sure if anyone has fitted the ST220 intake yet? 3L stock one is good for well over 600bhp

[Scooby P1]

so no quick fix to more power with minimal mods through the Cam route then. oh well.

Service and a remap is as far as i'll go then.

thanks for the CTek advice lads, going to get one.

Cheers
Lawrence

[951]

andygtt said:

not had any more emails!

also not sure if anyone has fitted the ST220 intake yet? 3L stock one is good for well over 600bhp

OK, mail resent

I spoke to Dave at Jetstream about the ST220 manifold and he was also unaware of any being fitted or even how they are packaged - just wondered as this is the second time someone has said they are a good idea....

Mind you, the first time was someone trying to sell me one!!

Regards

Graham

[2.5bluenob]

951 said:

OK, mail resent

I spoke to Dave at Jetstream about the ST220 manifold and he was also unaware of any being fitted or even how they are packaged - just wondered as this is the second time someone has said they are a good idea....

Mind you, the first time was someone trying to sell me one!!

Regards

Graham

I cant remember who it was but i was told that changing the inlet was a good idea.

[Scooby P1]

Good idea as in "it immediately raises power" or "it helps but in no noticeable way"?

[GR4]

Isn't it inlet cam being discussed, not manifold?

[Hollowpockets]

GR4 said:

Isn't it inlet cam being discussed, not manifold?

Correct, inlet cam is what Gadgie suggested. Im not sure I agree with that though. I had my 3l cams re-profiled by piper for £120 per cam and along with head porting etc and re-map it's now 555bhp.

[andygtt]

you can make 550 on std cams with the timing change being suggested by gadge so no need to change until things start getting serious.

of cause it wont rev to 8k like the re-profiled ones... you cant go direct to piper for the noble cams though as you have to get them through Mountune or Jetstream.

I have the mountune cams

[Gadgeroonie]

the ST220 inlet manifold is supposed to flow approx 30% more but it needs to be dyno tested to proove - i have one and one day will find time to do it

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Piper can reprofile any cam to improve lift and duration - typically a turbo charged car does not need "hot" cams to perform until you are pushing the limits of airflow.

a cam with a duration over 250 degs is considered hot and cams over 270 degs are usually used on higher revving engines. The trick with a turbo charged car is to use a mismatch of cams with a hot intake and mild exhaust cam.

do you know the profiles that Piper are offering ?

[slipstream 1985]

andygtt said:

you can make 550 on std cams with the timing change being suggested by gadge so no need to change until things start getting serious.

of cause it wont rev to 8k like the re-profiled ones... you cant go direct to piper for the noble cams though as you have to get them through Mountune or Jetstream.

I have the mountune cams

of course 550 or less not being a serious ammount of power??