XF Front Tyre Wear
Discussion
On my first service the report warned that the front tyres were low on tread. I was told that the "insides were worn". Having just done 10 000 miles I thought that it was a tad soon to be buying new fronts. Anyway, I needed to book the car in for a warranty job- drivers seat squab had flattened and was not supportive enough and annoying- and by this time (two weeks later) I had a look at my tyres and the insides are extremely worn to the point of getting close to the cords!! I asked them to check the geometry as this seemed excessive. I was then told that Jaguar will only cover the geometry for one year(!).
I explained that as the condition was noted at the service, while less than a year old, then it should have been investigated then as a duty of care as the wear was excessive. I am now waiting to hear if they will check it under warranty or not.
I feel the begining of a long "they all do that sir" arguement but what worries me is the instant "it's not covered mate" style attitude rather than the "dear dear sir, as you bought a brand new car from us, we will ensure it is sorted to your satisfaction."
May be the first and last new car I will ever buy! Is it a common complaint?
I explained that as the condition was noted at the service, while less than a year old, then it should have been investigated then as a duty of care as the wear was excessive. I am now waiting to hear if they will check it under warranty or not.
I feel the begining of a long "they all do that sir" arguement but what worries me is the instant "it's not covered mate" style attitude rather than the "dear dear sir, as you bought a brand new car from us, we will ensure it is sorted to your satisfaction."
May be the first and last new car I will ever buy! Is it a common complaint?
thought so. We had a rear blowout when the car had done 7800 miles from new - rears were down to 3mm at this point. Fitted some winter tyres when the car had done just under 16k miles - fronts were illegal on insides by this point and also signs of cracking in the tread blocks. Replaced with Dunlop SP 01s which most people of XF Forum report as lasting much longer and I can confirm that they indeed do, with no less grip IMHO. PZeros should never have been OEM on the XF in my opinion as the wear rate is abysmal.
When we got our XF they were being supplied with either PZeros or Dunlop SP 01s (may be different now). Everyone on XF Forum with Pirellis was complaining about the shocking wear rate and people with Dunlops were getting up to 3x the mileage out of a set. I got nearly 50k miles out of the front tyres on my 330Ci so was horrified that the fronts (albeit on a heavier car) only lasted 16k miles on the XF.
Sad to see that the Pirelli and Jaguar combination have made no progress in tyre degradation on the XF. Both my X types over the last 8 years have suffered severe front inner tyre wear, had alignment and toein/out adjusted but to no avail.I have switched from the Pirelli P-ZERO Neros, very grippy at first but fade dramatically and wear as quick as Lewis Hamilton can chew up tyres. I have after discussion with my local tyre supplier switched to Bridgestone, not noticed any difference in adherence but definitely compound appears to be able to take more mileage with more tread available over the whole tyre after several 1000 miles.
Scotty2 said:
Falkens it will be then.
Have had an e-mail back from dealer say that they will "absorb the cost" of the geometry check. Be interesting to see when there is no misalignment why the tyre wear was so much to the inside?
Thanks for the tyre advice.
The XF is based on the S-Type chassis & the S has a reputation for knackering the inside edge of tyres, even with the geo set correctly. I found the Falkens an ideal tyre for the S & worked very well. Have had an e-mail back from dealer say that they will "absorb the cost" of the geometry check. Be interesting to see when there is no misalignment why the tyre wear was so much to the inside?
Thanks for the tyre advice.
tr7v8 said:
The XF is based on the S-Type chassis & the S has a reputation for knackering the inside edge of tyres, even with the geo set correctly. I found the Falkens an ideal tyre for the S & worked very well.
Having done about 18,000 miles on mine, the front outer edges were starting to show significant wear (ie usual cornering and roundabouts) so they're now on the back to even things out. Hence I should get at least 40,000 miles from this set, not bad for £75 a corner!NormanD said:
tr7v8 said:
The XF is based on the S-Type chassis & the S has a reputation for knackering the inside edge of tyres, even with the geo set correctly.
Could be Jaguar got it wrongOK my XKR isn't Standard but I've set the Geo to MY requirements, I don't have any problems
It seems to be connected with the amount of negative camber the chassis runs. Reducing the negative would help but would be likely to knacker something else in the handling/roadholding chain.
In the end I couldn't get Falkens from the tyre place I use in time so I ended up getting -now I know I am experimenting but -I checked out the background and they are a fairly new manufacturer with a modern high tech facility (it says so on the website...) so I have tried "Evergreens" at £99 a corner.
Will see how they pan out. So far I can't tell any difference.
Will see how they pan out. So far I can't tell any difference.
Simpo, I notice from some of our crossed posts that we appear to have a similar sense of humour!
My RD350LC was due a tyre change due to age and cracking and my friend who was sorting it for me saw the "original tyre" and fell about laughing as that make was termed "The Ditchfinder General"
There is a bit of tyre snobbery about but I will take the chance and see how they perform. I run Goodyear Eagles on the Bentley which are 1/2 the price of the recommended Avons and are better.
It's the Chemist in me - Need to experiment ;-)
My RD350LC was due a tyre change due to age and cracking and my friend who was sorting it for me saw the "original tyre" and fell about laughing as that make was termed "The Ditchfinder General"
There is a bit of tyre snobbery about but I will take the chance and see how they perform. I run Goodyear Eagles on the Bentley which are 1/2 the price of the recommended Avons and are better.
It's the Chemist in me - Need to experiment ;-)
Scotty2 said:
Simpo, I notice from some of our crossed posts that we appear to have a similar sense of humour!
My RD350LC was due a tyre change due to age and cracking and my friend who was sorting it for me saw the "original tyre" and fell about laughing as that make was termed "The Ditchfinder General"
A friend of mine got home from having new tyres fitted to his Mercedes. As he got parked up his wife came out to meet him and the front door slammed behind her in the wind. His wife said 'What kind of tyres did you get?' He didn't hear the question and pointed out to her 'Door slammed!' She replied 'I've never heard of Doorslammed tyres, are they German?'My RD350LC was due a tyre change due to age and cracking and my friend who was sorting it for me saw the "original tyre" and fell about laughing as that make was termed "The Ditchfinder General"
Ba-dum etc...
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