Buying an untaxed car
Discussion
New keepers suppliment and your insurance doc and MOT certificate. It's a bit of a pain in the arse, and if you buy at the wrong time of the month you effectively lose a onths worth of tax if you want to be completely legitimate.
If the seller is so tight as to have let the tax run out, or cash it in for sale, then I'd be worried what else they had neglected on the car, TBH...
If the seller is so tight as to have let the tax run out, or cash it in for sale, then I'd be worried what else they had neglected on the car, TBH...
e8_pack said:
why is it bonkers?
All cars with tax need to be insured, so if there is any crossover between cars then the legal thing to do is to remove the tax, sorn it, then transfer your insurance, unless you like paying two premiums.
aaahAll cars with tax need to be insured, so if there is any crossover between cars then the legal thing to do is to remove the tax, sorn it, then transfer your insurance, unless you like paying two premiums.
'need to be' if you want to a refund, no 'must'
If selling cars SORN it if you want to transfer insurance but unless youre really strapped for cash keep the tax going.
If it is uninsured or untaxed it must be off road and SORN. Although DVLA will write to you first if uninsured, police may operate differently
Ozzie Osmond said:
Yup, selling a car without tax is bonkers. But not quite as bonkers as selling without MOT.
Not if you do not with to keep it insured (in which case it must be SORN'd) or the tax has run out and you don't want it taxed whilst waiting for a buyer with the tax simply losing a month of value every 1st of the month. For the latter reason, dealers very rarely tax cars in stock unless they have dual demo or loan car use.It really isn't a big issue, particularly now Post Offices and the DVLA accept emailed cover notes and if it is a Sunday, just tax it first thing Monday morning.
e8_pack said:
why is it bonkers?
All cars with tax need to be insured, so if there is any crossover between cars then the legal thing to do is to remove the tax, sorn it, then transfer your insurance, unless you like paying two premiums.
Well if you want to sell something for it's best price, it needs to be an enticing offer. I would say trying to sell a car without tax/sorn will cost you more than the price of a disc in the lower value the car will sell for.All cars with tax need to be insured, so if there is any crossover between cars then the legal thing to do is to remove the tax, sorn it, then transfer your insurance, unless you like paying two premiums.
Unless it's something rare or sought after, someone will read 'no tax' and move on to the next one.
esvcg said:
e8_pack said:
why is it bonkers?
All cars with tax need to be insured, so if there is any crossover between cars then the legal thing to do is to remove the tax, sorn it, then transfer your insurance, unless you like paying two premiums.
Well if you want to sell something for it's best price, it needs to be an enticing offer. I would say trying to sell a car without tax/sorn will cost you more than the price of a disc in the lower value the car will sell for.All cars with tax need to be insured, so if there is any crossover between cars then the legal thing to do is to remove the tax, sorn it, then transfer your insurance, unless you like paying two premiums.
Unless it's something rare or sought after, someone will read 'no tax' and move on to the next one.
U T said:
esvcg said:
e8_pack said:
why is it bonkers?
All cars with tax need to be insured, so if there is any crossover between cars then the legal thing to do is to remove the tax, sorn it, then transfer your insurance, unless you like paying two premiums.
Well if you want to sell something for it's best price, it needs to be an enticing offer. I would say trying to sell a car without tax/sorn will cost you more than the price of a disc in the lower value the car will sell for.All cars with tax need to be insured, so if there is any crossover between cars then the legal thing to do is to remove the tax, sorn it, then transfer your insurance, unless you like paying two premiums.
Unless it's something rare or sought after, someone will read 'no tax' and move on to the next one.
However i don't expect tax if buying from a garage/trader.
esvcg said:
Perhaps i should be a little more clearer - I wouldn't expect a privately sold car to have much tax, maybe a month or so is ok - but i would expect it to have some.
However i don't expect tax if buying from a garage/trader.
I'd agree with this too.However i don't expect tax if buying from a garage/trader.
Dealer car without tax normally just means they have cashed it in to get some money back – if you're lucky it might have less than a month left, or perhaps they'll offer 6/12 months as part of the negotiations.
For a private sale, I'd expect a bit of tax.
I'd want a test drive, so I'd need tax.
If the tax had expired on the car I'd wonder how long the car had been sitting around unused.
If it's a generic 2-5k car priced to sell, I'd expect the seller to dump 6 months tax on then add it to the selling price.
If the car's under £1k then perhaps not.
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