RE: Maserati Coupe

Wednesday 30th June 2004

Maserati Coupe

Richard Fiennes gets behind the wheel for a road test


Subtle, purposely powerful, beauty is a heady mix anytime and found in only the best sportscars.  “Science, freedom, beauty – what more could you ask of life” said Charles Lindbergh, the celebrated aviator.  All of these attractive attributes are to be found in the latest Maserati Coupe with the proper manual box. 

Unlike some competitors, which overdose you with their looks, this Bertone bodied Maserati is restrained understatement.  From the side it might be anything Italian or even Japanese these days.  The beautifully proportioned lines are only spoilt by crude door handles.  A flush, body coloured button would look far better.

Only the chromed “Maserati” script across the bootlid (the Maserati oval badge can be requested instead) gives the game away to following motorists, now that those famous banana shaped rear lights have gone.  Perhaps this alone is enough to send a well heeled person to the nearest dealer with open cheque book at the ready.  Otherwise, many people don’t have a clue as to what sort of motors these Maseratis are.

Purposely powerful is apparent when studying the truncated haunches, highlighted by streaks of road dirt after a proper drive in the rain.  The beauty is to be found at almost any angle, especially head on.  Those lovely curves from the bumper edges, highlighted by the light covers leading the eye to the evocative grille just have an uncluttered lightness of the designer’s pen. 

Topped off beautifully by that richly famous trident “Neptune” fishing spear and oval badge, the nose has to be one of the most handsome in the business.  Seeing that on your driveway every morning will bring a glow to your heart that no 500SL would ever do. 

After all, beauty and allure are prerequisites of any proper GT.  Maserati has always symbolised Italian luxurious sporting Gran Turismo motoring and this new manual Coupe is no exception.  They have invariably been softer than Ferraris, offering buyers a different take on performance driving, which embraces greater practicality and usage.

Competition

Now that the price has fallen to £56,650 the £20 cheaper, current ‘996’ 911 Carrera 2 faces a real threat, as does the Jaguar XKR.  Welcome to the party Maserati!  Such an evocative name stirs the emotions, amplified when you have the key in your hand.  Even before settling behind the wheel you expect great things.  The engine will surely sing, unsullied as it now is by twin turbochargers.  Will your heart rule your head, or will dynamic flaws appear, spoiling the love affair.  The great thing about Maserati’s is that they are not about image - you really do get something intoxicatingly characterful for your money.  The company accountants have not been allowed to butcher the heart out of the cars. 

Twist the (disagreeable turquoise plastic) key and blip the throttle and the beautiful looking 4.2 V8 roars like a true racer.  Spine tingling it most certainly is.  The interior is almost top-drawer Italian couture.  Hand stitched leather abounds, covering dash top and headlining if you so wish. 

The famous oval clock sits bang in the middle of the redesigned centre console, which can be specified with a user friendly sat–nav/TV.  Easy to use rotary heater and air con knobs sit below and all switches feel solid enough.

The deep, supportive seats adjust electrically everywhich way:- as does the steering wheel (manually), but are rather unyielding. They surely improve with time. However, the driving position is still rather Italianate, despite the improvement of lowering the seat 25mm.  Headroom is fine for tall people.  The main hooded instrument binnacle houses six legible Jaeger dials and all warning lights.  There is now plenty of room around the pedals for heel and toeing and I like the fact that the clutch footrest is almost at the same height as the clutch.  You can just slide your foot across. 

Unlike many other GT’s there is room for two adults in the rear.  At 6ft I had enough headroom and nearly sufficient legroom thanks to deeply sculpted chairs.  If a shortish person were driving, it would be spacious back there.  The other shortlisted protagonists come nowhere near.  Bravo! 

For those that enjoy ruining a good walk, fear not; two sets of bagged metal and wood sticks can be accommodated in the 315 litre boot.  No spare is provided, so the tyre well can take a squashy bag.  Rattles and squeaks are a thing of the past thanks to a 15% torsionally stiffer bodyshell, plus many changes to comply with both latest Euro and US safety regs.  There is the occasional creak from the leather, but that’s part of the romantic atmosphere!

On the Road

So to the driving.  390 bhp seems a reasonable amount of power for such a motor and will enable it to hold it’s own when encountering the mentioned opposition. Also the 1,670 kg kerb weight is some 65 kg lighter (average, thin adult) than the slightly more powerful XKR.  However, the Maser struggles with 330 lb ft of torque at 4,500 rpm, compared to the Jaguar’s 408 lb ft at a lowish 3,500 rpm. 

When hooning down the road though, you would not notice the difference unless you had just stepped out of  the Jaguar.  This Maserati flies, especially above 4,000 rpm when it climbs onto the cams and goes into warp mode.  The acceleration is unrelenting, underscored by a tremendous roar.  This Maser really would be ideal for that long distance transcontinental dash, where a 130 mph canter can be maintained, mile after mile.  The quoted 177 mph maximum can easily be believed and I’m sure the 4200 Coupe is rock steady at that pace. 

 Unlike the Jaguar’s relaxing demeanour, the Maser is more highly – strung and true to its Italian parentage.  Much more fun!  At a lowly 100 mph dogtrot the Maserati is showing 4,000 rpm in 6th, equating to around 23 mph per 1,000 rpm.  This goes some way to explaining the 17.5 mpg average.  With a 19.4 gallon tank (88 litre) tank, autoroute stops are needed every 300 miles.  Press the loud pedal further and it leaps forward, whereas the Jaguar would have to drop a cog or two.  Drive sedately, and owing to the great torque 6th gear will suffice, taking you as low as 23 mph.  It is almost like an auto in its behaviour and creamy smooth to boot.  Some driveline shunt however, can upset serene progress.  The engine note in town driving is muted, never intrusive, but musical.

Gearbox

Much has been said of the controversial semi – sequential Cambiocorsa gearbox model with its brutal sport mode and perceived slow changes.  The manual version is far better and more enjoyable, especially for track day enthusiasts.  The rear mounted box is very close ratioed and you can miss select on upchanges. 

Working down through the gears is easier, but let the oil warm up first!  The clutch seems fine, if slightly heavy, which I like in such a car.  The steering (3.0 turns lock – lock) is reasonably weighted and fairly light, but accurate at high speed.  Jumping back into my M635 I reacquainted myself with heavy, meaty feedback.  Shame Maserati can’t add some more feel and weighting.  Again, such cars should be more involving.

Ride

Now that the Skyhook adaptive damping is standard, British roads can be enjoyed as long as you leave the Sport stiffening button well alone.  It is way too firm for our potholed roads.  It might be fine on Dr. Palmer’s Bedford autodrome blacktop, which is billiard table smooth, but select it on the road and you will regret it as you are thrown around.  Normal setting is also firm, whilst compliant enough to soak up bumps and control the body during spirited cornering. 

Dinner plate (330 mm, four pot) Brembo brakes do the honours perfectly again and again, aided by smaller 310 mm rears.  The weight distribution of 52% front, 48% rear might have something to do with this as well and a good solid pedal is always there, giving utter confidence descending mountain passes.  Optional 7 spoke wheels of identical diameter of 8 x 18ins and 9.5 x 18ins rear suit the car admirably and are less fussy than the not unattractive 15 spoke standard items. 

The “MSP” traction control is best left switched on in everyday motoring.  It even begins to struggle “in extremis” in the wet, but cuts in beautifully just as things become interesting!  This I discovered exiting a wet roundabout.  No sideways lairiness, but I was glad the quiet assistant was there!  Owners will love disabling it at track days, when they might wish to play hooligan.  They will also be glad that the Ferrari built 90 deg V8 is dry sumped - no oil surge on rapid cornering.  All in all the Coupe has lovely neutral handling, allied with great grip from the Michelin Pilot Sports which are very reassuring in streaming rain.  It is very benign to drive and relaxing on long journeys.  Does need respect though.

I ended my critique on the Jaguar XKR saying that the ubiquitous Porsche 911 is the “head talking” purchase.  Well my heart rules my head with the Maser.  This aristocratic sports car is a true joy, with an unburstable heart of an engine.  Hang the residuals – lease one instead and keep climbing into the next, ameliorated model.  Ferrari ownership now ensures constant honing.  Our lives are too brief to miss out on such delights.  As Mrs. Doyle often said in “Father Ted”:
“O go on.  You will, you will, you will.”

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FestivAli

Original Poster:

1,088 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th June 2004
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wow. I almost threw up. The delightfully 'I'm employed by Maserati to make this car seem godlike' tone shook me up a bit, I'm used to good, honest sounding reviews from this website. I was tempted by the fact you claimed to test the manual version - why then did you get pics of the sequentially gearboxed (if that's a word) model? Perhaps that's because you got the pics off the Maserati website? Yes?

I'm dissapointed, There's no evidence to suggest you actually did test the car. This pisses me off, because I love Maserati's, I'd marry a Ghibli if I could and I reckon the current coupe looks sex. And whilst undoubtably a good jig, the review really was quiet sickening to read.

julians

135 posts

284 months

Wednesday 30th June 2004
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Indeed, It read like the person reviewing it was a bit overawed by the fact it was a maserati, as opposed to being objective about it.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 30th June 2004
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OK its a maserati.

Baring a few ponies wtf does it do that my RX8 doesnt, and I paid £35k less?

ilaishley

167 posts

241 months

Wednesday 30th June 2004
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OK its a maserati.

Baring a few ponies wtf does it do that my RX8 doesnt, and I paid £35k less?

ANSWERS

A Faster ( mine is 0-60 4.9 and 180 top )
B Nicer
C fit 4 people in
D Better value 2nd owner purchase ( i paid 33.5kfor a 2001 fully waranted dealer car)
E Lets not even start about interiors. Have you ever been in one ? I have been in both and plastic may be OK for you but the Maserati is swamped in hand stitched leather.
F Park yours next to a maserati and see how many glances your car doesnt get.
G I have yet to hear someone say. MMmm Mazda my dream car.

You get the picture. Its like comparing a caravan with an Hotel.

PLease dont take this personally but you asked the question.

Cheers

Ian

PetrolTed

34,425 posts

303 months

Wednesday 30th June 2004
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Richard did drive the car and obviously enjoyed it. Not sure why that should be a problem?

craigw

12,248 posts

282 months

Wednesday 30th June 2004
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ilaishley said:
OK its a maserati.

Baring a few ponies wtf does it do that my RX8 doesnt, and I paid £35k less?

ANSWERS

A Faster ( mine is 0-60 4.9 and 180 top )
B Nicer
C fit 4 people in
D Better value 2nd owner purchase ( i paid 33.5kfor a 2001 fully waranted dealer car)
E Lets not even start about interiors. Have you ever been in one ? I have been in both and plastic may be OK for you but the Maserati is swamped in hand stitched leather.
F Park yours next to a maserati and see how many glances your car doesnt get.
G I have yet to hear someone say. MMmm Mazda my dream car.

You get the picture. Its like comparing a caravan with an Hotel.

PLease dont take this personally but you asked the question.

Cheers

Ian


love it..

chris_n

1,232 posts

258 months

Wednesday 30th June 2004
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Well said Ian but you forgot point H - the sound! The difference in noise between the Maserati and Mazda is almost worth the price on its own.

I'm not knocking the RX8, but I can't understand why any sane individual would choose an RX8 over an approved used Maser Coupe - OK it would be a 3200 not 4200 at that price point, but the point still holds.

Chris

Muncher

12,219 posts

249 months

Wednesday 30th June 2004
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I'm in love

Burwoodman

18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 30th June 2004
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Oh please. In the same vein as Muppet Holden boy comparing his hoon mobile to a 7 series BMW. No offense Mr Mazda but please stop talking pish. It's not the money, the performance or the 0 to 60. Its the fact they make 1M mazdas and 2000 Massers

Zoom Zoom

britten_mark

1,593 posts

253 months

Wednesday 30th June 2004
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PetrolTed said:
Richard did drive the car and obviously enjoyed it. Not sure why that should be a problem?


Me neither.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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ilaishley said:
OK its a maserati.


PLease dont take this personally but you asked the question.

Cheers

Ian


uh you missed the smilley. It wasnt serious. But as you want an argument...


A Faster ( mine is 0-60 4.9 and 180 top )

Sure - but the 8 is quicker round pro-drives test track and stops significantly quicker. Winner - masser - in a straight line.

B Nicer - totaly subjective. I love the 3200/4200 - I'm not struck on the loos of this.

C fit 4 people in - and you cant in an 8? "Unlike many other GT’s there is room for two adults in the rear. At 6ft I had enough headroom and nearly sufficient legroom thanks to deeply sculpted chairs. " No problem with my 6" friends in the back of my 8.

D Better value 2nd owner purchase ( i paid 33.5kfor a 2001 fully waranted dealer car) - So someone lost the total value of an RX8 in just 2 years on your car. How is that better value?

E Lets not even start about interiors. Have you ever been in one ? I have been in both and plastic may be OK for you but the Maserati is swamped in hand stitched leather. - OK, well the 8 does have some hand stiched leather - be it only the steering wheel... But there is £30k difference, I'd expect a nicer interior.

F Park yours next to a maserati and see how many glances your car doesnt get. - I'd say it'd be split evenly, the 8 gets attention in company far above its status.

G I have yet to hear someone say. MMmm Mazda my dream car. - So given unlimited funds you'd buy a maser instead of a DB9 or lambo or xxxx? I dont think I've ever heard anyone say a (new)maserati was their dream car.

But then again I was only joking, given the choice (ignoring cost) I'd probably go for the maser too..

mr_tony

6,328 posts

269 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Fair play Rob
Having driven an RX-8 and a masser I'd have to say that they are chalk and cheese anyway.

One is a practical light sportscar, the other is a Grand Tourer.

In the end if you want a GT with a sporting edge the Masser is the best choice.

If you want a decent everyday family car that won't break the bank and still with a sporting edge the RX is a good choice.

Of course with the price differentials you get a much nicer cabin in the Masser, and a real individual feel.

On track I'd imagine the rX-would be quicker on a small circuit.

On the road the Masser has the edge with the sheer power.

Only two observations - the RX drinks fuel as fast as the Masser, you get a lot less back for the consumption though. (My mate is getting about 18mpg out of his at best)

Two - engine noise - the early reports suggested that the rotary was a good sounding engine, have to say frankly it's appalling - sounds like and angry wasp, hope they manage to do something about it as it spoils the driving experience I think!

Anyway the ultimate conclusion of this argument is that everyone should be issued with a standard ford focus as it does everything that all other cars do...

chris_crossley

1,164 posts

283 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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I like my masser. If i had the cash i'd buy a lambo. The point being i've currently settled (Happily) for the Mazzer for a reason. It's a very nice car and i have a limited budget.

It has spirit. It's not the best drive on the bends. Having said that it would beat most cars around them.

Whould i buy a new one. No... Got mine Second hand with 1,500 miles on the clock. With the bulk of the first year depreciation gone. Thats because they where over priced against the competition. Now if the depreciation and the cost where the same i'd still buy a Maser over a 996/997 or a Jag. Cos i really like the car. It's a brillient GT. If i wanted a track car i'd buy a Cerbera. Not the best track car but what a laught

Maserati is back , Ferrari have done the best of a good job and left it in it's own niche.


chris_n

1,232 posts

258 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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chris_crossley said:
Maserati is back , Ferrari have done the best of a good job and left it in it's own niche.


Very true, though what will be the consequence if the rumoured VW acquision of Maserati happens????

keimille

18 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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I test drove a 4200 Cambio last Friday, and from my experience I think the reviewer did drive it and was pretty fair. I'm really looking for a specific Cerbera Speed Six, but if the Maser dealer can do a good finance deal then the 4200 might be an option.

The 4200 was nice to drive, but it just didn't have the same gut tingling involvement of the Cerb (I've drive about 5 cerbs and had a Chim for 3 years - so you know what I comparing it with). But then the 4200 has all the little practicalities like an auto, ABS, EBD, traction etc that make everyday driving just a bit more relaxing.

I'm just wondering if (for the rare day when the weather is good and the roads are clear), I'll miss the grunt, go and involvement of a Cerb. Ah well - any comments? and please - nobody mention a 911 - they just aren't me!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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chris_n said:

Very true, though what will be the consequence if the rumoured VW acquision of Maserati happens????


Uh - them to gain 300kg and 4wd, sudenly start to look like a parts bin special and be based on an A6 platform...Hopefully not we have enough of one make several brand blandness.

As for RX8 mpg, I get 18 too lol. Well at worst, 26 at best. Least I can use 85 instead of 98/opti...

mr_tony

6,328 posts

269 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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Cheers for that Rob, my Rx8 mate will be pleased to know its not just him!

re.e the VW linkup, I ahve it on good authority (it was in evo!) that VW want the quattroportte platform as they're so impressed by the chassis.

Next generation Maserati Coupe should be a cracker (spyder already in testing as we speak) as it's based on the QP chassis, so may well be a leap forward in driving dynamics, theres a rumour too that the boomerangs will return too..

I'll be placing a deposit if the word so far is anything to go by (though hoping that the depreciation curve on the Trident is not quite so severe at that point!!).




toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st July 2004
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keimille said:
I test drove a 4200 Cambio last Friday, and from my experience I think the reviewer did drive it and was pretty fair. I'm really looking for a specific Cerbera Speed Six, but if the Maser dealer can do a good finance deal then the 4200 might be an option.

The 4200 was nice to drive, but it just didn't have the same gut tingling involvement of the Cerb (I've drive about 5 cerbs and had a Chim for 3 years - so you know what I comparing it with). But then the 4200 has all the little practicalities like an auto, ABS, EBD, traction etc that make everyday driving just a bit more relaxing.

I'm just wondering if (for the rare day when the weather is good and the roads are clear), I'll miss the grunt, go and involvement of a Cerb. Ah well - any comments? and please - nobody mention a 911 - they just aren't me!


Chalk and cheese mate.

Don't know how you can possibly compare a Cerb to a Maserati 4200. They are worlds apart.

The Cerb is fast , fast and ... fast. Its a lary monster.

The Maserati is probably one of the most stylish and sophisticated cars on the road.

It is in many ways the complete opposite to the Cerb.

Cerb - all grunt, noise, speed and no finesse.

Maserati - style, understatement, self confidence.

Take your pick.



keimille

18 posts

284 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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Toppstuff

Having driven both recently, "chalk and cheese" isn't quite there. Both have SOUL. I'd like a big, fast GT that makes a great noise, looks good, is nice to sit in and makes your throat dry with concentration on an empty A-road. Both seem to hit the spot.

Note I'm talking Speed Six Cerbera, with the slower steering rack, softer suspension and the Tuscan engine. Your comments for the Cerb are valid if the comparison is a V8.

I suppose what I'm really asking for here is if there are any Maser owners who suspect that the handling & steering feel isn't quite there. If you come back and tell me that a 4200 is an enjoyable car to set up through (for example) a fast stretch of Highland "A" Road, and a good scratch on the Nordschleif - then it will make me rethink my test drive on Friday.

robert farago

108 posts

270 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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"Seeing that on your driveway every morning will bring a glow to your heart that no 500SL would ever do."

The 500SL is a far more beautiful motor than the Maser. It's perfect proportions and classic curves are deeply desirable from any angle. More common in number, but not in class. If you know what I mean.

>> Edited by robert farago on Friday 2nd July 01:01