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Hark

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A carpark I have been using for over 10 years has apparently changed ownership.

It has always been a free council carpark, but now is run by a Parking Eye, carpark management. I didn't see the signs until I left and have been issued a £90 fine. Not impressed.

Was about to pay up, but doing some reading and it seems to state that private companies can't legally issue fines? Something to do with proof of the driver?

Has anyone had similar experiences with this or a similar company?

miniman

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Check the signs.

Penalty charge notice - enforceable.

Parking charge notice - not

Hark

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miniman said:
Check the signs.

Penalty charge notice - enforceable.

Parking charge notice - not
It's a Parking Charge

Lurking Lawyer

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File in a handy circular receptacle.

Do not reply.

LukeSi

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Hark said:
It's a Parking Charge
File it under B for Bin.
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Dwight VanDriver

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File WPB and do NOT respond to the deluge that will accompany

Current [position:

http://www.tinyurl.com/2hr37d

http://www.tinyurl.com/1ewaow

Things will change later this year when new act to come into force allowing them to chase the Reg Keeper for such infringements.

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Hark

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Dwight VanDriver said:
File WPB and do NOT respond to the deluge that will accompany

Current [position:

http://www.tinyurl.com/2hr37d

http://www.tinyurl.com/1ewaow

Things will change later this year when new act to come into force allowing them to chase the Reg Keeper for such infringements.

dvd
Very helpful links, thankyou.

Hark

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552 posts

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Dwight VanDriver said:
File WPB and do NOT respond to the deluge that will accompany

Current [position:

http://www.tinyurl.com/2hr37d

http://www.tinyurl.com/1ewaow

Things will change later this year when new act to come into force allowing them to chase the Reg Keeper for such infringements.

dvd
Very helpful links, thankyou.

Nyphur

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LukeSi said:
Hark said:
It's a Parking Charge
File it under B for Bin.
How strange. I said more or less the same thing in another thread on the same company, around an hour later - without having read this topic.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

LukeSi

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Nyphur said:
How strange. I said more or less the same thing in another thread on the same company, around an hour later - without having read this topic.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Best advice on PH hehe

Mojooo

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2 things to bear in mind

People HAVE been taken to the small claims court and HAVE lost - but a relativley small number I would imagine.

Some car parks take pictures of people getting in and out of their cars - I fel lfoul of thi once because there was a bloke walking around the car park taking pictures of people.

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/ne...

the_scorpion

771 posts

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Mojooo said:
2 things to bear in mind

People HAVE been taken to the small claims court and HAVE lost - but a relativley small number I would imagine.

Some car parks take pictures of people getting in and out of their cars - I fel lfoul of thi once because there was a bloke walking around the car park taking pictures of people.

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/2/ne...
CPS was owned by Perky and is very well known on Pepipoo. There was a rumour at the time he set up a couple of cases just to get wins in court and no defence was put up by the driver other than he don't know if he was driving at the time.

He was offered a challenge by Pepipoo come and get pictures of a driver parking in one of his carparks and then put a ticket on his motor and let it go to court. I believe that offer is still open as he never accepted. I wonder why?

Private eye don't do court. Even if they did they could only sue for actual loss to the landowner.

Edited by the_scorpion on Sunday 8th January 07:39

Chrisgr31

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the_scorpion said:
CPS was owned by Perky and is very well known on Pepipoo. There was a rumour at the time he set up a couple of cases just to get wins in court and no defence was put up by the driver other than he don't know if he was driving at the time.

He was offered a challenge by Pepipoo come and get pictures of a driver parking in one of his carparks and then put a ticket on his motor and let it go to court. I believe that offer is still open as he never accepted. I wonder why?

Private eye don't do court. Even if they did they could only sue for actual loss to the landowner.

Edited by the_scorpion on Sunday 8th January 07:39
Do you know why the case was heard in the County Court not the Magistrates Court? With the sums involved I would have thought it would be in the latter.

the_scorpion

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Chrisgr31 said:
the_scorpion said:
CPS was owned by Perky and is very well known on Pepipoo. There was a rumour at the time he set up a couple of cases just to get wins in court and no defence was put up by the driver other than he don't know if he was driving at the time.

He was offered a challenge by Pepipoo come and get pictures of a driver parking in one of his carparks and then put a ticket on his motor and let it go to court. I believe that offer is still open as he never accepted. I wonder why?

Private eye don't do court. Even if they did they could only sue for actual loss to the landowner.

Edited by the_scorpion on Sunday 8th January 07:39
Do you know why the case was heard in the County Court not the Magistrates Court? With the sums involved I would have thought it would be in the latter.
No idea to be honest. I wasn't involved nor am I in England where he mostly operated but I was a Pepipoo user during that time and I remember Perky making all sorts of court claim wins but with no real court case numbers to back up what he said.

He won a case here in Scotland but again there was something not quite right about that one either from what I remember. A search on Pepipoo should give you more info.

Mojooo

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Chrisgr31 said:
Do you know why the case was heard in the County Court not the Magistrates Court? With the sums involved I would have thought it would be in the latter.
A straight up civil contract case would only be heard in a county court owuldnt it?

quick google suggests civil issues in a magistrates are limited.

Lurking Lawyer

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Magistrates deal almost exclusively with lower level criminal stuff, not civil disputes - including claims for breach of contract, which is what this would be.

That's the province of the county court - or High Court if it's higher value (typically £50K plus).
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