RE: Driven: Porsche Panamera GTS

RE: Driven: Porsche Panamera GTS

Thursday 26th January 2012

Driven: Porsche Panamera GTS

Can Porsche really turn the Panamera into a pukka track car? Does it really matter if they can't?



This, they say, is the Panamera you buy if you want a track car that's also, er, a five-metre saloon. And if that sounds a little odd to you, well then you'd not be wrong.

But to prove the track-capable point, Porsche has chosen to launch the new Panamera GTS to the world's press (and yes that includes us) at Ascari Race Resort in southern Spain. So what exactly has Porsche done to the Panamera to make it into a track fiend?

A Panamera for the track? Apparently so...
A Panamera for the track? Apparently so...
The modifications are pretty subtle, but also pretty extensive. It starts with an extra 30hp from the 4.8-litre V8 along with 16lb ft of torque. In part this comes from an extra 400rpm, courtesy of modified valve springs, bringing the red line up to 7,100rpm, and in part thanks to a wider air intake with two new air filter housings on either side of the nose. A larger-diameter sports exhaust system also helps the engine to breathe more freely and, completing the engine-room trickery, there are tweaked camshafts with a modified valve lift.

The PDK gearbox (standard on the GTS) also gets a massage, with the gearbox working in concert with cylinder deactivation technology to create faster upshift times.

Alcantara seats among the upgrades
Alcantara seats among the upgrades
Number crunching
The chassis hasn't been ignored either, with PASM active air suspension as standard, and a ride height lowered by 10mm over the 4S on which the GTS is based. A 5mm spacer inside each rear wheel also increases the track by (wait for the complicated maths) 10mm, while 19-inch wheels from the Panamera Turbo hide the 390mm (front) and 350mm (rear) brakes also from the Turbo (carbon-ceramic items are optional). Porsche's Sport Chrono package is also standard, while Porsche's clever active chassis control system (PDCC) and torque vectoring are optional. Oh, and the production models get proper paddleshifts as a no-cost option as opposed to the irritating push-me-pull-me Tiptronic-style toggles that for some reason most of the launch cars were fitted with.

Cosmetic tweakery includes various GTS badges (inside and out), a smattering of black Turbo-sourced trim bits (exhaust tips, various air intakes) and seats that are a pleasant leather-Alcantara mix.

Rear seat passengers looked after too
Rear seat passengers looked after too
Porker by name...
Out on the track all this translates to a pretty convincing package, especially for a car lugging around 1,920kg. The snowstorm of Porsche acronyms (PTM, PASM, PDCC, PTV-plus, even PDK) all contrive to enhance rather than detract from your experience, coming together with an inherently well-balanced chassis to get the big Porsche around the challenging Ascari track with more verve than a car this big has any right to.

Sure, you'll kill the brakes (even the ceramic ones) pretty quickly with sustained lapping, but you'll have plenty of fun until then. You'll also be accompanied by a lovely growling, gargling soundtrack, which is augmented on the GTS by a 'sound symposer' that channels extra intake noise into the engine via, of all things, the A-pillar. Yes, it is an artificial augmentation, but it doesn't sound like it - it sounds good.

Panamera GT3 it isn't but it's not out of sorts
Panamera GT3 it isn't but it's not out of sorts
But no matter what Porsche says, we're pretty convinced that even this most hardcore of Panameras is not going to venture on to many circuits in the hands of the vast majority of its owners. It is fortunate for Porsche, then, that the Panamera GTS is also a pretty epic proposition out on the road.

The extra 30hp and 16lb ft give it just enough shove for it to never feel lacking in sufficient straight-line pace, while on-road driving reveals a delicious pop and crackle on the over-run in sport-plus mode that, although evidently artificially engineered, does sound deliciously naughty.

Best of the bunch?
That 10mm increase in rear track width, meanwhile, gives just a sniff more stability, an ounce or two more eagerness on turn-in. It's enough to be noticeable even without back-to back comparison with a 4S, and also to counter the helm-dulling weight of the front half of the four-wheel drivetrain. It is, in short, a hoot on the road for something so large. Heck, put it in a soft suspension setting and it even rides pretty well (weight and a long wheelbase no doubt playing its part there).

Possibly the best Panamera? Er, possibly
Possibly the best Panamera? Er, possibly
In fact we would go so far as to say that it is the best Porsche Panamera - the one that strikes the best balance between pace, practicality and handling. And if you consider that the £7K leap you need to make to get from a 4S to a GTS is more than made up for by extra kit, some of which (that extra power, for example) you can't spec a 4S up with anyway, that £90K price tag doesn't seem so laughable.

Being the best Panamera doesn't mean being the best super-luxury saloon-type thing: when there are cars like the new BMW M5 around, with 560hp available for £73K, the Porsche suddenly looks a little less tempting. Or what about the new Mercedes CLS63 AMG? That's 525hp for £83K. Both of these are deeply talented - and seriously rapid - cars. If that Porsche badge is not a must on your fast saloon, you'd have to say there are better places to take your money.


PORSCHE PANAMERA GTS
Engine
: 4806cc V8
Power (hp): 430@6,700rpm
Torque (lb ft): 384@ ,500rpm
0-62mph: 4.5 sec
Top speed: 179mph
Weight: 1,920kg
MPG: 26.4 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 256g/km
Price: £90,409


Epilogue
Porsche very kindly laid on some clever in-car video footage for our time on the track. They also laid on a 'here's one we prepared earlier' video - with one Walter Rohrl doing the same thing. So for your amusement we've decided to show you the two laps side by side. Rohrl versus Riggers. Clash of the titans this was not...

 

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appletonn

Original Poster:

699 posts

260 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Still too fugly, sadly

GroundEffect

13,835 posts

156 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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This comes from an extra 400rpm, in part courtesy of modified valve springs, bringing the red line up to 7,100rpm, in part thanks to a wider air intake with two new air filter housings on either side of the nose.

Come on guys, I've seen high school kids write more coherently.

arkenphel

484 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Is EVERYTHING coming with a sound symposer thingamajiggy these days?

To me, it's like having a perfectly insulated and sound proof room next to Le Mans and then having the hotel radio play nothing but noises of cars coming past. The mind boggles....

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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arkenphel said:
Is EVERYTHING coming with a sound symposer thingamajiggy these days?

To me, it's like having a perfectly insulated and sound proof room next to Le Mans and then having the hotel radio play nothing but noises of cars coming past. The mind boggles....
Except it's not like that. Because in this instance it works. It doesn't sound artificial, and the effect is that you can choose to have a refined, quiet cabin, or one with more engine noise. At the switch of a button.

Take away my PH badge and call me every name under the sun, but that actually appeals to me. paperbag

Skater12

507 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Well done Porsche, you've created a car that no one asked for.
The idea of a track inspired Panamera is like Caterham doing a Luxo-barge!, just wrong !
I've no doubt they will sell a few, to people who cant afford the Top spec car, and who have no intention of doing track days.
Surely a VXR8 would do the job just as well, if not better, and for a fraction of the cost?

E38Ross

35,050 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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a porsche as heavy as the heavy M5, what a world we live in.

you have to ask, is it worth 20k more than an M5 though??!

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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5mm wheel spacers.

Why doesn't the £90,000 include wheels with the right offset?

frankstarrapper

9 posts

147 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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arkenphel said:
Is EVERYTHING coming with a sound symposer thingamajiggy these days?

To me, it's like having a perfectly insulated and sound proof room next to Le Mans and then having the hotel radio play nothing but noises of cars coming past. The mind boggles....
Don't need one in my car. Just put the radio on Long Wave dial in some static and it "revs" with my engine. ;-)

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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I like it a lot.

I suspect a well equipped M5 would get within 10K of the Panamera GTS.

I'd take the Porsche every time.


E38Ross

35,050 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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toppstuff said:
I like it a lot.

I suspect a well equipped M5 would get within 10K of the Panamera GTS.

I'd take the Porsche every time.
a well equipped M5 costs about 80-82k, give or take. a well equipped panemera gts....more than £90k i can assure you

edit - just had a quick look. if you're to spec them to a similar level the porsche is about £20k more, maybe a tiny bit more.

25-30% difference in price....not even comparable, is it? and that's for a car which is considerably down on power over the M5

Edited by E38Ross on Thursday 26th January 12:16

MrQuick

130 posts

160 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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toppstuff said:
I like it a lot.

I suspect a well equipped M5 would get within 10K of the Panamera GTS.

I'd take the Porsche every time.
430 hp car over a 560 hp one?
Madness!

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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E38Ross said:
a well equipped M5 costs about 80-82k, give or take. a well equipped panemera gts....more than £90k i can assure you
I kind of got the impression that the GTS came pretty well loaded. And then I woke up ! Clearly this car is'nt likely to end up on my drive for less than 100k.

Silly of me really to imagine for one moment that they would deny people the sybaratic pleasure of delving into the options for even a pair of mats probably and add another 10% on to the price.

This practice irks me greatly. Essentially, it is sheer profiteering masquerading under the dodgy disguise of " bespoke customer choice" .

It is a load of tosh. Come on Porsche, surprise the market. Offer a car with the options list thrown onto the car within a fixed price. It would be cool to read about a new Porsche that we hailed as being " fully loaded as standard and excellent value"..

Instead, I always feel we are being smiled at and pleasantly robbed.

PhilipH

418 posts

148 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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I don't profess to know anything technical, but I can't imagine a 10mm wider track makes any measurable difference...?

MagicalTrevor

6,476 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Let's compare shall we wink

http://youtubedoubler.com/34Rx

Luca Brasi

885 posts

174 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Still not a very pretty car. Interior looks lovely though cloud9

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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MagicalTrevor said:
Let's compare shall we wink

http://youtubedoubler.com/34Rx
rofl Brilliant. I wouldn't even have been able to see him by the end of the lap!

Beyond Rational

3,524 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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You managed to notice a 0.605% increase in track width without back to back comparison?

The other one, sir, has bells on it.

asgoo

36 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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I'm really coming round to the panamera, cool car. Never thought I'd be saying that! This one would look good in black.

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Beyond Rational said:
You managed to notice a 0.605% increase in track width without back to back comparison?

The other one, sir, has bells on it.
Okay, the bigger wheels 'n' tyres, lower ride height, PASM and PDCC possibly contribute to the effect as well... getmecoat

alock

4,227 posts

211 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Skater12 said:
Well done Porsche, you've created a car that no one asked for.
The idea of a track inspired Panamera is like Caterham doing a Luxo-barge!, just wrong !
I've no doubt they will sell a few, to people who cant afford the Top spec car, and who have no intention of doing track days.
Surely a VXR8 would do the job just as well, if not better, and for a fraction of the cost?
Several people seem to think the M5 needs to be simpler and NA. From another thread...

Mr Whippy said:
Why BMW can't just buck the trend. Make a 5.0 turbo with 500bhp as a rapid express by all means, but why not make one with an NA 6 pot and about 350bhp, and then spend the £25,000 left on carbon everywhere, and make it super light/agile and a driving tool beyond autobahn express?!
bmthnick1981 said:
An F10 M535i with a NA 6 pot 3.5 engine producing circa 350bhp could be great like the E28 and E34 M535's of old. Don't offer any spec choices on it, cloth seats with manual adjustment only, no shat nav, simple suspension, manual box, don't over wheel or over tyre it, less sound proofing etc, simple stereo and maybe even wind up windows! Keep it simple and offer it at £35k rather than £70k+..... I can dream!
Porsche are part way there. They've based their drivers choice car on the cheaper NA model. They just need to shed some weight now.