RE: Driven: Lotus Evora S IPS

RE: Driven: Lotus Evora S IPS

Thursday 2nd February 2012

Driven: Lotus Evora S IPS

Two-pedal Evora S expands auto options ... for those that way inclined


OK, first things first, if it was our own cash putting an Evora on the driveway, it would be a manual model.

Like an Evora S, just less involving ... er
Like an Evora S, just less involving ... er
That doesn't mean this latest model, the Evora S IPS (Intelligent Precision Shift), is any less relevant, and nor indeed should it be viewed as Lotus losing its way or straying from its roots. Dubious celebrity-obsessed marketing decisions aside, as ever with a Lotus it's the car that matters. We've already sampled both thesupercharged engine and IPS gearbox in isolation, but they can now be had in combination.

A necessary evil
Launched to appease the Middle to Far East, and to a lesser extent the American market, this car occupies a narrow but hopefully profitable gap in the company's portfolio. And with recent events concerning parent firm Proton leaving a question mark over the firm's future, anything that can help stabilise its survival should be welcomed.

Two pedals bad, three pedals good
Two pedals bad, three pedals good
Right from the outset it's clear this particular set up is something of a mixed bag. Yes the core values - agility, communication and a surprisingly supple ride - of the Evora continue to shine through, but the experience is dulled by the six-speed automatic gearbox. Left to its own devices it shifts quickly through the ratios, maximising mpg and minimising CO2 emissions along the way. And with consistent and light throttle openings it's relatively smooth, but that's where it ends.

Old school auto
Drive this car as intended and the gearbox soon reveals its low-tech torque-converter origins though. While the throttle pedal promises instant response, the gearbox is reluctant to react, suddenly followed by some furious cog-swapping in a desperate attempt to select the correct ratio.

Slow-witted auto at odds with the rest
Slow-witted auto at odds with the rest
A flick of the paddles, mounted behind the feedback-full steering wheel, gives manual control, though if you leave them un-fingered for ten seconds the unit defaults back to Drive. Select Sport mode and the time limit is no more while throttle response is sharpened and the rev limit raised to 7,200rpm.

Up the creek with a paddle
If the Harrop supercharger is allowed to clear its throat and aim for the high notes the Evora S IPS demonstrates cracking pace. All is well, until, with throttle opened fully, you reach for the next ratio and after a noticeable lull in acceleration the gear engages with a thump through the drivetrain. There's less than snappy responses on the downshift cycle as well; too often the gearbox enthusiastically blips the revs but then leaves you waiting for the gear to fully engage - normally just as you pass the apex you were once aiming for.

Yes you can drive round these problems. A reduction of right foot angle as each change begins smoothens things out for instance and recalibration of the driver's brain sorts the timing on the road. But whatever you do this remains a frustrating package, not only because of that gearbox, but because all of the incredible bits of the Evora continue to shine through.


LOTUS EVORA S IPS
Engine:
3,456cc V6, supercharged
Power (hp): 350@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 295@4,500rpm
0-62mph: 4.7 sec
Top speed: 172mph
Weight: 1,442kg
MPG: 29.3mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 224g/km
Price: £73,950 (as tested)






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snuffy

Original Poster:

9,779 posts

285 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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The two problems for me would be:

1,442kg

&

£73,950


Frimley111R

15,676 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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snuffy said:
The two problems for me would be:

1,442kg
Go on a diet then! laugh

kambites

67,580 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Hmm, seems to be a car with a severe identity crisis.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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£73,950. £73,950. Seventy-three thousand nine-hundred and fifty pounds. SEVENTY-THREE THOUSAND NINE-HUNDRED AND FIFTY POUNDS! SEVENTY-THREE THOUSAND NINE-HUNDRED AND FIFTY POUNDS!

kambites

67,580 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Rawwr said:
£73,950. £73,950. Seventy-three thousand nine-hundred and fifty pounds. SEVENTY-THREE THOUSAND NINE-HUNDRED AND FIFTY POUNDS! SEVENTY-THREE THOUSAND NINE-HUNDRED AND FIFTY POUNDS!
And what's the starting point for a 911 PDK these days? hehe

Ex Boy Racer

1,151 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Anyone know how many Evoras have actually been sold?

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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kambites said:
And what's the starting point for a 911 PDK these days? hehe
£irrelevant smile

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Ex Boy Racer said:
Anyone know how many Evoras have actually been sold?
No but have a mooch through the classifieds and look at the depreciation. It's terrifying. The Evora is the paedophile at the public swimming pool.

kambites

67,580 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Ex Boy Racer said:
Anyone know how many Evoras have actually been sold?
Going by the chassis numbers, they seem to have produced somewhere between one and two thousand. Who knows how many of them have actually sold though?

kambites

67,580 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Rawwr said:
kambites said:
And what's the starting point for a 911 PDK these days? hehe
£irrelevant smile
Why? It's probably its closest conceptual competitor (although admittedly the 911 has a rather better gearbox these days)?

I don't think it would be particularly overpriced if the gearbox wasn't complete rubbish. hehe

Edited by kambites on Thursday 2nd February 09:07

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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kambites said:
Why? It's probably its closest conceptual competitor (although admittedly the 911 has a rather better gearbox these days)?
Because Porsche can get away with charging a premium.

SWoll

18,426 posts

259 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Rawwr said:
£73,950. £73,950. Seventy-three thousand nine-hundred and fifty pounds. SEVENTY-THREE THOUSAND NINE-HUNDRED AND FIFTY POUNDS! SEVENTY-THREE THOUSAND NINE-HUNDRED AND FIFTY POUNDS!
I know. It really is a huge surprise that they can't sell any isn't it.

I really do worry for Lotus. Having read the extended article in last months EVO they appear to be far too obsessed with "branding" and of the opinion that the Lotus name/history is enough to justify the high prices and apparent glut of new models they are considering.

I also think they are positioning their cars a bracket too high in the marketplace. This Evora S should be around £50K and the new Esprit <£100K to take on the R8, 911 etc. Pitching it against the 458, MP4, Gallardo looks like an accident waiting to happen IMO.

kambites

67,580 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Rawwr said:
Because Porsche can get away with charging a premium.
I know the Porsche badge is worth a premium, but how much (which is why I asked what the difference is)? Is the 991 PDK be available for under 100k? It's got to be close, surely?

Mind you, the 991 is probably a vastly better car for what the majority of buyers of cars in this price bracket want.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 2nd February 09:12

Rs2oo

2,195 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Study the photo very carefully because at £73950 you won't see one on the road.

snuffy

Original Poster:

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Thursday 2nd February 2012
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SWoll said:
.. and the new Esprit <£100K to take on the R8, 911 etc. Pitching it against the 458, MP4, Gallardo looks like an accident waiting to happen IMO.
I do not believe for one moment that a new Esprit will become a production car. Lotus will come up with an excuse and that will be the end of it. Trust me, it will never see the light of day.

SWoll

18,426 posts

259 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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kambites said:
Rawwr said:
Because Porsche can get away with charging a premium.
I know the Porsche badge is worth a premium, but how much (which is why I asked what the difference is)?
It's not just the badge though is it?

I'm not arguing that the Evora may well be a superior "drivers" car to the 911 C2 but as an overall package for 99% of purchasers in that segment it falls a long way short.

kambites

67,580 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Rawwr said:
No but have a mooch through the classifieds and look at the depreciation. It's terrifying. The Evora is the paedophile at the public swimming pool.
redface God you're not kidding are you? Last time I looked you couldn't get one for under 45k; now they're well into the 30s!

kambites

67,580 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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SWoll said:
kambites said:
Rawwr said:
Because Porsche can get away with charging a premium.
I know the Porsche badge is worth a premium, but how much (which is why I asked what the difference is)?
It's not just the badge though is it?

I'm not arguing that the Evora may well be a superior "drivers" car to the 911 C2 but as an overall package for 99% of purchasers in that segment it falls a long way short.
Dunno. I haven't driven the 991 or the Evora. I wasn't especially impressed with the 997s I've driven though. Good car, but nowhere near as good as I was expecting from all the hype. smile

SWoll

18,426 posts

259 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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snuffy said:
SWoll said:
.. and the new Esprit <£100K to take on the R8, 911 etc. Pitching it against the 458, MP4, Gallardo looks like an accident waiting to happen IMO.
I do not believe for one moment that a new Esprit will become a production car. Lotus will come up with an excuse and that will be the end of it. Trust me, it will never see the light of day.
If that is the case they might as well turn the lights off now then. Evora sales aren't worth talking about, Elise/Exige aren't much better and they're throwing a huge amount of money at motorsport for some reason. Like I say, I really do worry for their future.

SWoll

18,426 posts

259 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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kambites said:
SWoll said:
kambites said:
Rawwr said:
Because Porsche can get away with charging a premium.
I know the Porsche badge is worth a premium, but how much (which is why I asked what the difference is)?
It's not just the badge though is it?

I'm not arguing that the Evora may well be a superior "drivers" car to the 911 C2 but as an overall package for 99% of purchasers in that segment it falls a long way short.
Dunno. I haven't driven the 991 or the Evora. I wasn't especially impressed with the 997s I've driven though. Good car, but nowhere near as good as I was expecting from all the hype. smile
Not an opinion TBH, simple fact. Buyers vote with their wallets and we all know how poor Evora sales are. I don't think the same could be said for the 911 somehow...


kambites said:
Rawwr said:
No but have a mooch through the classifieds and look at the depreciation. It's terrifying. The Evora is the paedophile at the public swimming pool.
redface God you're not kidding are you? Last time I looked you couldn't get one for under 45k; now they're well into the 30s!
Staggeringly unpopular. Goes to show how much difference winnning "ECOTY" makes doesn't it.

I almost laughed out loud when I read they are pricing the 438bhp Evora GTE at £120K....

Edited by SWoll on Thursday 2nd February 09:22