Swissvax - worthwhile or a con?

Swissvax - worthwhile or a con?

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PocoLoco

Original Poster:

112 posts

164 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Swissvax seems to be a hidden extra added to invoices before you sign the dotted line. (perhaps I'm being unfair)

Do you think it's worth it or are there better products / methods to protect the paintwork?

supersport

4,063 posts

228 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Been using Swissvax for about 7 years and it does a wonderful job, my wax is so old it is still called Swissol, really lasts despite regular use. Having said that they have changed the recipe so it may not last so well.

There are a lot of detailers out there who use it, so it must be good. As with all these products, the result is only any good if it is applied properly so it depends on who is doing it and assuming they put the effort in.

PocoLoco

Original Poster:

112 posts

164 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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Great tip - thanks.

Tempted to get film protection (eg. Xpel Ultimate) on the front nose area of the chassis to prevent stone chips, but may be over the top and was hoping Swissvax would provide some protection.

nurburgring1

617 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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I've been using Swissvax (Swissol as was) and Zymol products for about 12 years. Both are very easy to use if used properly and last ages. The results from using the waxes are brilliant and the bonus is, they smell great.

NS80

64 posts

156 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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PocoLoco said:
Great tip - thanks.

Tempted to get film protection (eg. Xpel Ultimate) on the front nose area of the chassis to prevent stone chips, but may be over the top and was hoping Swissvax would provide some protection.
The film and wax are completely different. Get the car fully-detailed before getting Xpel Ultimate put on it.

Popolou

1,007 posts

208 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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Tell the detailer what you plan in doing as the film installer will remove any product before the material is laid down.

Not had a problem with swissol (when I used them) but I moved over to the dodo juice line which is as good imho.

nickfrog

21,187 posts

218 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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An expensive wax is only as good as the prep work before it's applied, and particularly the polishing. I've seen people apply a £500 wax on a totally swirled car, LOL.

Scelto

619 posts

158 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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PocoLoco said:
Swissvax seems to be a hidden extra added to invoices before you sign the dotted line. (perhaps I'm being unfair)
Which invoices have you seen this added to? OPC purchase invoices?

What Swissvax products are they charging you for?

FWIW, I have both Best of Show and Zuffenhausen, along with the SV paint cleanser and wouldn't use anything else for hand application now, simply because they're all so quick and easy to use (BoS easier than Zuffenhausen).


ForzaWhitesGen2

359 posts

151 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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supersport said:
Been using Swissvax for about 7 years and it does a wonderful job, my wax is so old it is still called Swissol, really lasts despite regular use. Having said that they have changed the recipe so it may not last so well.

There are a lot of detailers out there who use it, so it must be good. As with all these products, the result is only any good if it is applied properly so it depends on who is doing it and assuming they put the effort in.
+1

jackliebling

506 posts

174 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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I had my 997.2 Swissvax'd before I took delivery. I sent the car back to the OPC because (among a long list of other problems) I felt it needed a machine polish (which they did for me). Since I have got the car back it looks fantastic, it's so easy to clean with the wax on it and yesterday I topped it off with the Onyx wax the pack came with. The OPC swissvax man thought it best to reapply the wax every time you wash - especially to the front end in the winter. It looks stunning, the car has a deep shine and it was so easy to apply. I will try and keep going with the swissvax, I think that you can trust that their chems won't damage your car. Whereas the baffling array of chemicals at Halfords might have variable results...

OldBob

290 posts

160 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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I was less impressed. I have another car that was detailed with Zaino stuff etc and I have to say that the beading and water/dirt repelling and ease of clean I get on the other car has lasted ages, whereas our Porsche is nowhere near as good. Could just be in the application though.

todd69

240 posts

215 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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Waste of money, depends how often you like to apply your wax and as said before, the finish is only as good as the prep.

Some good old autoglym won't see you going far wrong :-)

PocoLoco

Original Poster:

112 posts

164 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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Thanks.

The OPC in London apparently does the Swissvax job themselves... will get them to do it - hope they're good given the £500 bill!

agtlaw

6,712 posts

207 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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I cleaned my GT3 RS approximately once. I used a bucket of soapy fairy liquid water with an old
sponge I kept on the garage floor and it came up a treat.

nurburgring1

617 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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agtlaw said:
I cleaned my GT3 RS approximately once. I used a bucket of soapy fairy liquid water with an old
sponge I kept on the garage floor and it came up a treat.
So long as you're happy with the way it looks, thats alright, it's your car.biggrin

nickfrog

21,187 posts

218 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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PocoLoco said:
Thanks.

The OPC in London apparently does the Swissvax job themselves... will get them to do it - hope they're good given the £500 bill!
For less than £500 you can buy a one-stage correction done by a proper detailer. Swissvax is just a brand, it doesn't make a swirled car less swirly, the brand that makes the final LSP is totally irrelavant, it's all the work that comes before, decontamination, claying, etc etc etc . It's all in the know-how and believe me it's a specialist job. You need someone that will PTG your car all over first and then find the optimum polish+pad combo so that they cut it just enough to remove the swirls without removing too much clear cloat for future work etc etc. I've never seen an OPC do better than a quick £50 valeting. Ask them if they have a PTG for starters, I doubt they know what it is. They're mugging you.

nurburgring1

617 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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nickfrog said:
PocoLoco said:
Thanks.

The OPC in London apparently does the Swissvax job themselves... will get them to do it - hope they're good given the £500 bill!
For less than £500 you can buy a one-stage correction done by a proper detailer. Swissvax is just a brand, it doesn't make a swirled car less swirly, the brand that makes the final LSP is totally irrelavant, it's all the work that comes before, decontamination, claying, etc etc etc . It's all in the know-how and believe me it's a specialist job. You need someone that will PTG your car all over first and then find the optimum polish+pad combo so that they cut it just enough to remove the swirls without removing too much clear cloat for future work etc etc. I've never seen an OPC do better than a quick £50 valeting. Ask them if they have a PTG for starters, I doubt they know what it is. They're mugging you.
+1

PocoLoco

Original Poster:

112 posts

164 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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All sounds like a scam - it may have to be reclassified as a no-cost option.



Henry-F

4,791 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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I suspect they will know what a paint thickness meter (or gauge) is. If you merely go and ask them if they know what a "PTG" is they will justifiably think that you are a complete knob. Being polite they will wait until you have left to verify the fact verbally.


As ever.......





Henry smile

Edited to add, what the fk is an "LSP" when its at home ?

Oh hang on, I see you mention a "clear cloat". Are these terms specific to Asia possibly wink

Edited by Henry-F on Thursday 16th February 20:00

DeltaOneSeven

43 posts

226 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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So long as you prep your car properly (clay + pre wax cleaner) you will get a really good finish no matter what product you use.

It then comes down to which wax you prefer (usually price then smell - or is it the other way round?)