RE: PH Carpool: Suzuki Ignis Sport
RE: PH Carpool: Suzuki Ignis Sport
Monday 20th February 2012

PH Carpool: Suzuki Ignis Sport

A chirpy junior hot hatch with a rally pedigree? Sounds good to us



Name: Mike Gill
Car: 2003 Suzuki Ignis Sport
Owned since: August 2011
Previously owned: Golf 1.4, Mk1 GTI, VR6


Why I bought it:
I bought this car in August last year as I realised being 20, insuring a VR6 Golf and being at university was just not feasible. I bought it for a whisker over a grand, a bargain as most go for £1,700 and upwards, but I caught the seller at a good time as he was emigrating. After being brought up on sturdy, well built, often over-engineered German cars by my father, I'd become bored of either having a slow, boring daily driver or frustrated with selling my soul to afford a fun car (the VR6). Most young motoring enthusiasts go French (or worse, Vauxhall). But with the influence of my mate's Toyota Starlet SR and my sister's old Suzuki Swift's screaming twin-cam still ringing in my ears, I looked up the obvious Civics etc.

But as I was on a run round my local lanes, three Suzuki Ignis Sports tore past, and I was instantly intrigued! After hours of scouring, I went to view this clean example with many optional extras and the best price going. A quick test drive and some cheeky lift-off oversteer around the gent's local roundabout later had me hooked. My dad seemed to love it too, likening it to the 'proper' Mini Coopers of his day.


What I wish I'd known:
Knock on wood, no problems so far! But I live with four other lads and, as it has only four seats, I often have to leave someone behind. The boot isn't the biggest, either, but being a young bachelor thankfully it is sufficient. I also got too used to the rear parking sensors, not realizing how lazy and careless you can become. A bump into a car park pillar quickly reminded me to pay attention.

Things I love:
The surprised and bewildered look on Fiesta ST owners' faces, and the granny-mobile comments my mates all gave it until I showed them what it could do. I also love its go-anywhere ability. It's just as at home "making good progress, officer" on country lanes, sitting in stop-start traffic or doing an auto-test in an industrial estate. I love the way it holds on through corners, but lift off around a tight corner and the back end comes around nicely thanks to its short wheelbase.

I love the ridiculous Recaro seats, its 'Evo-esque' fog lights, and the character of a Staffordshire terrier, barking "I'll take you all on!" You also don't see many about, and being a young driver this is quite rare, as you are largely restricted by insurance and budget to your choice of car. The best thing about this car is its sense of humour; it never takes itself too seriously and I think to own one of these you can't be the type of person that takes themselves too seriously. You'd certainly never see a snob in one!


Things I hate:
The parking sensors get on my nerves, but I haven't seen many others with this option. The fact it only has four seats when I am the only one in my house of five with a car can also be annoying. A tad more power and, in particular, torque would be nice and really take smug looks off some people's faces. The small boot can be inconvenient when taking the lads to rugby training or transporting my drums, but not impossible. The gearbox can be a tad notchy at times, but the ratios are pretty good, it isn't really a long-journey car and can be noisy on the motorway, but then the lightness is where its character comes from.

Costs:
Pottering around town under about 4000rpm or just cruising down the motorway (admittedly not the best machine for a motorway commute) it is very economical, at least 40mpg. Thrash it round a track, however, and it does drink as much as a 1.5 could. On my 15-minute half town, half dual carriageway daily commute to university I get at least 35mpg.

Like any twin-cam rev-hungry Japanese engine it does use oil when thrashed, but not extensively, it just needs to be checked regularly. One track day at Llandow (in the pouring rain!) I did completely wear out one front tyre, but that's to be expected in a front-wheel-drive car. I haven't yet had to buy any parts yet but Suzuki are renowned for reliability and cheap on parts.


Where I've been:
I've taken it on a track day at Llandow (hilarious fun). Other than that I haven't particularly owned the car long enough to say I've really been anywhere. I am at University in Bath, but Herefordshire is my home and it is absolutely perfect for both locations! On A-roads and country lanes as well as pottering around town, it fits the bill.

What next?
On my student budget, my plans to modify are limited, and I'd like to think this is one of those cars that doesn't really need modifying. I'm not one to pretend a car is more than what it is, but I'd like a nice exhaust and maybe an uprated air filter, but doubt it would make that much difference, any more real power would probably ruin the handling. However, supercharging them seems to be a popular modification, taking them to around 170bhp in a car that weighs 940kg, which makes them go like a startled badger (Is that fast, then? - Ed)!

It is already a very stiff car and I like having a car with a bit of ground clearance, so lowering is out of the question. I'd prefer to save what little money I have for a nice, 'proper-wheel-drive' car after university when insurance and money aren't such an issue.

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Discussion

Itsallicanafford

Original Poster:

2,861 posts

175 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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...good write-up, i dinn't know the first thing about these but will look out for them in my rear view...maybe just leave her standard though, in my experience, often more BHP doesn't add much to the enjoyment....

only1ian

722 posts

210 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Uni Car love.... i had a Citreon AX Debut! Ragged the plastic nuts off it and even ripped out the back seats so it was a newquay camper van for a weekend!

Still in retrospect it was a bag of poop!

Skater12

507 posts

174 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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I love these cars, and had almost forgotten about them as a viable 2nd car for a bit of a laugh.
A mate used to have one and all he did was fit an induction kit and full stainless system, and it was a bloody quick yellow terror!
I just did an insurance quote, aged 30 with 3 points, no no-claims, in a low crime area and at 10,000 miles per year. Fully comp quote £168 !
Right, time to start shopping !

Might look into some slightly larger wheels to fill those arches a bit better though.

Baryonyx

18,137 posts

175 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Decent little cars these, absolutely gutless, plasticky and tinny, but begging to be ragged all day long to exploit that meagre performance.

Skater12

507 posts

174 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Admit it, you know you'd want one for under £1500.

aka_kerrly

12,492 posts

226 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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A nice write up.

For the money those Ignis sports do look like quite a cracking buy, pretty quick for a insurance group 9 car!!

anything fast

983 posts

180 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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love the seats, they look like the ones you used to get in the Mk1 Astra GTE!

Switch

3,455 posts

191 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Did I see you hooning round the 'shire at xmas?
I recognise the car... and given your from "round my way" it's clearly you.

chunkymonkey71

13,122 posts

214 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Every time I say these are great, some tt flames me.

To all those tts out there... go drive one!

PS- Parts are NOT cheap! Pray you dont need rear wheel bearings.





Edited by chunkymonkey71 on Monday 20th February 15:50

Greenwich Ross

1,219 posts

189 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Yeah looks alright that.

TallTom

208 posts

175 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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While I was at uni, a friend of mine used to own one of these as well.

Ended up rolling it into a field 5 times after not paying to much attention going round a corner local to him, missed two trees by about a foot either side.

I will see if I can find any pictures

Ryvita

722 posts

226 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Student motoring done right. Ten out of ten, top of the class.

rtz62

3,638 posts

171 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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A sensible warm hatch for a guy with his head screwed on!
What u call a 'bank robbery' car; do a bank heist in one and no one will be able to tell the police what you were driving!
On a par with a Ford Sport Ka in my book, but with better reliability and rust prevention!

TankRS

2,850 posts

170 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Cracking little write-up thumbup

I looked at one of these for my 1st motor 5yrs ago, loved it on the test drive, but as you’ve said the space is minimal and it was for this reason I decided against it.

There’s at least 3 I know of round my way owned by a group of lads that have modified them to the max, dropped them, put huge wheels on etc, and looks like they have ruined them.

I think this may be one of the few cars that look great left alone, or at most given a small drop and sensible sized rims.

Jayho

2,358 posts

186 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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chunkymonkey71 said:
Every time I say these are great, some tt flames me.

To all those tts out there... go drive one!

PS- Parts are NOT cheap! Pray you dont need rear wheel bearings.





Edited by chunkymonkey71 on Monday 20th February 15:50
Parts really are NOT cheap! Especially aftermarket performance parts, a lot of which need to be imported from Japan.

I've had mine for 2, nearly 3 years, and I've loved every moment of it. Well apart for long journeys... not the most comfortable car for long journeys. Or when you have a car full of people.

Unfortunately the previous owner of mine had "upgraded" the suspension, and Suzuki parts are too expensive, therefore I've got a lowered car which isnt very comfy.

If I remember correctly, another optional extra were bigger Rota (I think) wheels which fit the arches a bit better. But TBH I'm very happy with the standard Enkei's and think they really give the car a good rally look.

Unfortunately it will be time to part with mine when I can finally find something new to get, cash burning in pocket ect, and I really do fancy something a bit more comfier and less "crashy" :P Finding a good handling car while being a bit more "comfy" has proven difficult, and I've ruled out so many cars in the past few months I'm really struggling to find one which I want. (This could all just be an excuse to hold onto the Iggy a tad longer mind you wink )

DJ_AS

352 posts

223 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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I've always found these quite appealing cars - sadly I need something a bit bigger these days for family duties. Perhaps when the wife's car needs changing tho... scratchchin

Chris71

21,548 posts

258 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Didn't realise these were down to that sort of price yet. Could definitely be tempted. smile

What's the steering like on them?

mike80

2,331 posts

232 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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My wife has one of these, it's great fun when she lets me get hold of it. She could do with the parking sensors on hers though!

Decibel

95 posts

172 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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I had an FTO whilst at uni, i also wanted something that wasn't a Vauxhall or living in Jesmond Newcastle a Mini One with Copper badges stuck on it

Limpet

6,596 posts

177 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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I've heard these likened to original Minis and even the early hot FWD Peugeots by quite a few people. Apparently, you can play with them at (and slightly over) the limit, like you could a 205 or 106 GTI, and they lap it up. Sadly their relative rarity means I've never stumbled across one to get a go. But one of the guys who raves about this is a lifelong 205 GTI and 306 GTI-6 fan and one time club level rallyist, so I'm inclined to believe there's something in it.