RE: SOTW: Peugeot 306 GTI-6

RE: SOTW: Peugeot 306 GTI-6

Friday 24th February 2012

SOTW: Peugeot 306 GTI-6

Yes, we know 'they don't make 'em like this anymore' is a cliché, but in Peugeot's case it's true



We might have entered the brave new world of the seven-speed manual these days but, back in the 90s, having six gears was something to crow about. Especially in a humble (ish) hot hatch.


Hence the fast version of the Peugeot 306 - the first revival of the GTI badge after a couple of years in the wilderness following the demise of the 205 GTI - became the GTI-6 in 1996.

The 2.0-litre motor's 169hp provided brisk-enough pace, but its power output would soon be comfortably eclipsed by subsequent generations of 200hp-plus fast hatches. Automotive History records, however, that outright poke and gearbox gimmickery didn't matter, because the 306 GTI-6 was blessed with one of the most accomplished, enjoyable front-drive chassis ever.

It was a fine successor to the legendary 205, in fact, but with the considerable added bonus that it wouldn't actually spear you backwards into an inviting-looking field if you overstepped the mark. This was Peugeot maturing, creating a hot hatch that was fun and forgiving.


Peugeot still had a lot to learn about build quality, though, and GTI-6es aren't exactly hewn from rock. This means that, nowadays, even a tidy GTI-6 is going to feel a little ratty. Plus you'll have to put up with some pretty sombre plastics.

This particular example also features a seat fabric that could only have come from a French car of the 90s. Or possibly an Aha video. Lovely.

Other than that it looks to be pretty clean, with a reasonable 109,000 miles under its belt (well under 10K a year) and even a nice piece of paper to prove that it still produces all the horses the boys and girls of Sochaux intended. It has had quite a lot of work done to it though, rather proving the 306's flaky reputation. The result might be a positive for a buyer, however, as it's meant a few subtle modifications and, as the seller points out, not many parts left for the new owner to replace...

Of course, if you're feeling a bit more brave/frugal/utterly mad and don't fancy a 306, then how about this 205? It started off as a 1.9 GTi, but has subsequently been fitted with the torque-tastic can't-kill-it-with-a-stick 1.9 D turbo from a 306. Mad? Yes, but perhaps brilliantly so...



Advert for 306 is reproduced below

1997 PH2 306 GTi6 Nile Blue (1997)
109,000 miles £895

1997 PH2 306 GTi6 Nile Blue
Well it's time to make a decision on this one and sadly its up for sale.
Just had the MOT done and it passed needing only a pair of orange indicator bulbs and a new passenger side drop link so that wont expire until January 2013.
Tax is just about to expire at the end of February 2012


The bodywork is in average condition with a key mark on the passenger side rear quarter, a cracked front bumper just by the fog light and a small dent on the boot. It polishes up well for the summer as the pictures show.

The interior is in good clean condition and I have wet vacuumed the seats so they are nice and bright. Comes with a basic CD player head unit and the rear shelf has 2 6x9 speakers in it.
I have slightly modified this car by replacing failed standard parts with upgraded ones. These modifications are.
3" Magnex catback exhaust system
Powerflex lower engine mount
Welded and reinforced chassis on the upper engine mount as this is a common failure
Lightweight aluminium crank pulley
Rallye auxiliary belt setup that removes the aircon.
Lots of new parts in the last 6 months as the cam belt snapped.


I fitted a good 2nd hand cylinder head which had a light skim, valve lap with new stem seals, this is a quiet head with no tapping.
Correct MLS headgasket and bolt set used.
Gates Powergrip Cam belt kit.
New waterpump
5/40w Oil and sparkplug change.
This is now a strong engine which made a respectable 165BHP at the K-Tec rolling road a couple of weeks ago.

Here is a list of the other parts replaced

Reconditioned rear axle.
Genuine Peugeot/Ordonez Radiator and full coolant change
Front discs and pads with quality Ferrodo parts
Throttle cable
NTK Lambda Sensor
Coolant Temp Sensor
Air and fuel filters

I have plenty of invoices to back this all up so that's plenty of parts you won't ever have to worry about!

Any questions just give me a call or email!

 

 

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alfa pint

Original Poster:

3,856 posts

211 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Despise these cars. Sold purely on the USP of a gimmick of a six speed box. Not particularly quick, awful inside and shockingly built in comparison to anything from Germany or Japan. Hell, even Rover / MG and most of the Italian manufacturers were putting their cars together in a more durable way.

philkermeen

28 posts

147 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Likeee

TORQ

188 posts

229 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Good shed.

Remember driving the Rallye Version of this back in the day when it came out, it made my MK2 8V Golf feel slow and a dated, it was really really bloody good to chuck about, but I still couldn't part with the Golf. Was always worried these wouldn't hold together long-term.

rallycross

12,790 posts

237 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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alfa pint said:
Despise these cars. Sold purely on the USP of a gimmick of a six speed box. Not particularly quick, awful inside and shockingly built in comparison to anything from Germany or Japan. Hell, even Rover / MG and most of the Italian manufacturers were putting their cars together in a more durable way.
You've clearly never driven or owned one with this load of nonsense.
They are very good to drive, excellent fun handling, lovely engine, good gear ratios, built better than you might think (they dont suffer from rust), and right now they are amazing value if you find one thats been looked after.

stumpage

2,111 posts

226 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Sorry don't agree. In 1998 these weren't slow. 170bhp in a hatch was a lot (Golf GTi Turbo produced 150bhp). It had great handling, was light and agile. Ok build quality wasn't like the Golf but they didn't exactly fall to bit around you.

A great car and a great drive. Miss my old one

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Bargain!
I'd take a punt on that.

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Good shed smile

My boss had one of these for a while (back in the day)...great chassis

beefcake_siby

2 posts

192 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Cr8acking shed! I've owned 2of these, the last being picked up for £800. Superb cars with a great gearbox making it feel easily as fast as clip 172. can sunrise lots of people due to the subtle looks. i'm sure I'll have another of these at some point!

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

217 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Did my ARDS in one a few years ago. Very forgiving and fun on track, though the gearbox was already on the way out after not many miles.

As for the 205 in the article, what a POS. Swap out a 1.9 petrol with decent power for a circa 90bhp donkey of a diesel? No thanks! Reads more like the owner fked the original engine and could only find/afford the dirty lump he fitted.

dbdb

4,326 posts

173 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Wasn't the 306GTI more a replacement for the 309GTI rather than the 205GTI?

I don't despise the 306, but I cannot say the thought of one excites me either. I'm not a fan of hot hatches, but I like this car's predecessor the 309 GTI and the 205 GTI too.

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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alfa pint said:
Despise these cars. Sold purely on the USP of a gimmick of a six speed box. Not particularly quick, awful inside and shockingly built in comparison to anything from Germany or Japan. Hell, even Rover / MG and most of the Italian manufacturers were putting their cars together in a more durable way.
Also sold on the fact that they handled very, very well.

mark7andrews

39 posts

209 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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rallycross said:
alfa pint said:
Despise these cars. Sold purely on the USP of a gimmick of a six speed box. Not particularly quick, awful inside and shockingly built in comparison to anything from Germany or Japan. Hell, even Rover / MG and most of the Italian manufacturers were putting their cars together in a more durable way.
You've clearly never driven or owned one with this load of nonsense.
They are very good to drive, excellent fun handling, lovely engine, good gear ratios, built better than you might think (they dont suffer from rust), and right now they are amazing value if you find one thats been looked after.
Couldn't agree more. I've had mine for three years, and for a shed runabout it's unbeatable in my book.

ch3tman

115 posts

184 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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@ at the editor: the article needs to be corrected, the engine produced 167bhp, not 169bph as printed.

TORQ said:
Good shed.

Remember driving the Rallye Version of this back in the day when it came out, it made my MK2 8V Golf feel slow and a dated, it was really really bloody good to chuck about, but I still couldn't part with the Golf. Was always worried these wouldn't hold together long-term.
Indeed the Rallye version [same XU10J4RS engine/ BE3 gearbox as the GTi-6, but lighter, no leather, no air-con, no electric windows, no sunroof, etc.] was the one to have. Limited run of 500 produced in red/white/black only.

Here is mine, which I sold in 2009:







Fantastic cars lick, still miss it - the handling was spot on bow

alfa pint said:
Despise these cars. Sold purely on the USP of a gimmick of a six speed box.
You may/may not enjoy how it was marketed then:



biglaugh

Edited by ch3tman on Friday 24th February 10:31

Stuart

11,635 posts

251 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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A manager at a previous employer had one of these. He was a right smug sod, so I'd never have admitted this to him, but lordy I was jealous of that car. At the time I was desperately trying to pretend I had a modicum of urban cool living in my Clapham Common flat and working in Islington for a media business. Unfortunately the solid white Mk1 Mondeo (estate, 1.8 engine, beige interior rendered yellow by the 1st owner smoking near continuously in it for 40,000 miles) which was my company car, and which was known around the office as "The Ambulance," constantly undermined that. I wanted that 306 more than anything.

Roadster25

272 posts

162 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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alfa pint said:
Despise these cars. Sold purely on the USP of a gimmick of a six speed box. Not particularly quick, awful inside and shockingly built in comparison to anything from Germany or Japan. Hell, even Rover / MG and most of the Italian manufacturers were putting their cars together in a more durable way.
A bit harsh.

Which contemporary rivals were faster?

Does the sublime handling coint for nothing?

When did high interior quality or build quality become the mark of a good hot hatch?

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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alfa pint said:
Despise these cars. Sold purely on the USP of a gimmick of a six speed box. Not particularly quick, awful inside and shockingly built in comparison to anything from Germany or Japan. Hell, even Rover / MG and most of the Italian manufacturers were putting their cars together in a more durable way.
A bit rich coming from an Alfa driver ... hehe

My experiences with PSA cars of that era vs. Fiats and Alfas are the reverse. That platform (306/ZX) needs handbrake cables ever so often, the rubbers of the passive steer rear axle tend to go after 80-100K miles or so and er... that's about it.

We have a 1.4i ZX in the family (first owned my my parents, then myself taking it from 60 to 140K miles in two years, then my parents again as a runabout, now at 162K or so) that's unstoppable despite our combined efforts to kill it - trailering stuff, hitting steel poles with the side, pulling it out of the garage at the towbar without noticing the front bumper has caught on some garden equipment...

oh, and I've spun it twice, too paperbag

Regardless, it keeps on sailing through MOTs with new oil and filter, and maybe a pair of tyres having been the only maintenance frough the year.


Edited by 900T-R on Friday 24th February 10:33

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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ch3tman said:
Indeed the Rallye version [same XU10J4RS engine/ BE3 gearbox as the GTi-6, but lighter, no leather, no air-con, no electric windows, no sunroof, etc.] was the one to have. Limited run of 500 produced in red/white/black only.

Here is mine, which I sold in 2009:







Fantastic cars lick, still miss it - the handling was spot on bow
Very nice.
cool

E30M3SE

8,467 posts

196 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Top shed. thumbup

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

224 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Interior roflhurl

Drive it with beaded seat covers hehe Great Shed

LouD86

3,279 posts

153 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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I get the chance to drive some silly exotic cars, have a nice collection of cars myself too, but ever since having driven one of these, Ive wanted one. Its not the cash, its the current lack of space, but maybe when the Mk1 MX-5 dies, it could be time for one!

Lift off oversteer (not as bad as the 205) but still achievable, is so much fun, and so rewarding, its a right hoot!! Great Shed PH