RE: Geneva 2012: Mini Countryman JCW and Clubvan

RE: Geneva 2012: Mini Countryman JCW and Clubvan

Tuesday 6th March 2012

Geneva 2012: Mini Countryman JCW and Clubvan

John Cooper Works badge extends to SUV; Clubman gains a van version



BMW has topped-off its Countryman range with this, the Countryman John Cooper Works, at the Geneva show.

The Countryman JCW will be the first all-wheel-drive JCW Mini, and also the first to offer an automatic gearbox as an option.


Power from the 1.6-litre turbocharged four-cylinder engine is 211hp at 6,000rpm, while torque is up at 207lb ft between 2,000rpm and 5,600rpm, with the familiar overboost function pushing that up to 221lb ft for brief bursts. That's enough to push the Countryman JCW to 62mph in a healthy-ish 7.1 seconds and on to a top speed of 127mph (although that falls to 7.5 seconds for the automatic version).

But although the the Countryman gets uprated springs and dampers, strengthened anti-roll bars and a 10mm drop in ride height, it won't be quite as extreme as other JCWs, as Mini boss Dr Kay Segler is keen to expand the appeal of JCW sub-brand's line-up.

The new Countryman JCW will go on sale in the UK this autumn, with an expected price hike of roughly £5K over the 184hp Countryman Cooper S, bringing the JCW in at just under £28K.


Also on the stand is a further twist on the conventional Mini theme in the shape of the Clubvan concept.

Now, it might not seem the most innovative take on the Mini theme, but it certainly seems to make sense to dump the Clubman's rear seats and turn it into a commercial vehicle.

We're not sure about Mini's claims that the "exterior design cuts a distinctive figure", but the extra right-hand-side door and side-hinged rear doors of the Clubman ought to be a useful addition to a van, at least.

Inside, meanwhile, it's also basically a Clubman, only with a flat load area in the rear, which features six attachment loops, a fixed partition grille and side walls, floor and roof lining trimmed in anthracite-coloured cloth.

Et voila - the 'first premium model in the small car-based van segment'. Niche-tastic or what?

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ivantate

Original Poster:

166 posts

168 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Et voila - the 'first premium model in the small car-based van segment'. Niche-tastic or what?

MG ZR160 van, just about a premimum van. (compared to the competitors anyway)


Softer JCW, whaaat???? have they lost their minds??? suppose its just a way to get more money from the gullable.

DeltaEvo2

869 posts

192 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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MINIFAIL!

TobesH

550 posts

207 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Kind of like the van... is that wrong?

V41LEY

2,893 posts

238 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Though the Bentley SUV was grim.
This beats that !

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Not enjoying any of those one bit.

Stick with the original Mini imo.

soad

32,891 posts

176 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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TobesH said:
Kind of like the van... is that wrong?
Maybe it is hehe
Quite keen to see one in the showroom.

Cotty

39,533 posts

284 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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TobesH said:
Kind of like the van... is that wrong?
Its not as bad as the others, is as far as I will go. Like is a bit strong.

cliffie

172 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Nope, I like it. Makes sense. If they can sell a Fiesta Van, why not this?

Colin RedGriff

2,527 posts

257 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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So let me understand this Countryman JCW thing........

If I wanted to buy a countryman that comes with an increaed ride height. But I could spend a shed load more money and get the JCW model with lowered ride height. So I get a mini the rides about the same height as a standard mini but as a bonus looks like it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

Leaving aside the pointless nature of the Clubman JCW, the Clubman has to be quite possibly the ugliest car in recent years.

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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MINI must be the manufacturer that sticks the most amount of tat to their cars; that JCW looks distastefully aftermarket.

retrorider

1,339 posts

201 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Putting the word 'Mini' on a Countryman is the ultimate own goal so far this Decade...

VeeDub Geezer

461 posts

154 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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soad said:
TobesH said:
Kind of like the van... is that wrong?
Maybe it is hehe
Quite keen to see one in the showroom.
I like it too!

Cotty

39,533 posts

284 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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cliffie said:
Nope, I like it. Makes sense. If they can sell a Fiesta Van, why not this?
Remind me again the difference in price.

sparkymarky321

14 posts

149 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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The van is a stupid idea unless your a florest!

Leggy

1,019 posts

222 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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No different to what BMW and others do with their individual models. Start off with the basic then build up to the hot version. Look at the hot versions of all the 4x4's, SUV's, MPV's none of them really make a lot of sense dynamically but they sell and give a halo effect to the rest of the range.
Any way it's built in the UK and brings in much needed jobs and money for the economy. As long as they export them all you won't have to look at them.

Dave Hedgehog

14,549 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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sperm

pSyCoSiS

3,594 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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I quite like the look of the Mini Van...

loudlashadjuster

5,120 posts

184 months

Wednesday 7th March 2012
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The van is at least true to the original Mini van, looks pretty good too.

The less said about the rest of the rapidly disintegrating range the better though...

sad61t

1,100 posts

210 months

Wednesday 7th March 2012
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Leggy said:
No different to what BMW and others do with their individual models. Start off with the basic then build up to the hot version. Look at the hot versions of all the 4x4's, SUV's, MPV's none of them really make a lot of sense dynamically but they sell and give a halo effect to the rest of the range.
Any way it's built in the UK and brings in much needed jobs and money for the economy. As long as they export them all you won't have to look at them.
The advantage of the hot 4x4 is that it can put down the power in a less compromised form than the FWD hatch. Read (but can't remember where) a review of the Coupé JCW where a Countryman JCW mule was also being trialled - it was a wet alpine road and the Countryman was much more usable. On a dry track, I'm sure the hatch/coupé would be faster, but on an average UK day you can understand why people look for the security of all wheel drive.

However, AFAIK, all Countryman models are built in Austria www.countrymanmotoring.com/p/countryman-faq.html

Pumpsmynads

268 posts

156 months

Wednesday 7th March 2012
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I think they put 'Mini' on it becasuse it's the company's name - Doh!