RE: Chris Harris video: Mercedes SLs

RE: Chris Harris video: Mercedes SLs

Thursday 29th March 2012

Chris Harris video: Mercedes SL

An SL history lesson for Chris Harris helps put the new one in context



Thinking of ways to introduce the new SL got me pondering the terms of admission to the icon club - that rarified group of products that transcend markets, classes and niches and instead exert their own gravity on the machinery around them. I think the Mercedes SL is an icon.

Driving some of the older models makes me even more certain it is.

Top to bottom: R231, R230, R129, R107, W113, W121, W198
Top to bottom: R231, R230, R129, R107, W113, W121, W198
It is unlikely that I will ever drive a W198 300 SL roadster again, and that tightens my stomach muscles with sadness. It is by quite some margin the most desirable old car I have driven in years - perhaps ever. After we'd finished shooting the video a man from Mercedes told me it was worth around £400,000, which is less than a Gullwing, but given the significance, quality and sheer beauty of the machine that value seems undercooked to me.

What must people have made of this in the 1950s? Well over 200hp, styling from a sci-fi movie and the type of materials and finish you'd expect of the self-proclaimed maker of the finest automobiles on the planet.

The whole machine is just so tight and usable. The mechanical fuel injection gives a flat idle and consistent throttle response through the long-travel pedal, and the noise from that straight-six is captivating. You can decipher individual component sounds, the rush of valve train, the hammer of fuel pump, all blended into an exhaust noise that serves to remind us that the in-line six will always be one of the most charismatic sounding motors.

The gearbox is just gorgeous - mechanical and precise - and the interaction between it, the throttle and the vast steering wheel is immediately natural and relaxed: to the extent that you immediately start cruising at 80mph, where the car feels composed and alert. Until you have to brake. There is a section of in-car footage we haven't used in the video where I'm extolling the virtues of this 50-year-old machine and how swift it is, and we happen across a corner. Elation turns to fear as I attempt to lose 40mph in 50 metres. "It's just so modern feeling, gush, gush, etc ... F***, Neil, I can't stop!!!"

Is the W198 the genesis of the current SL? No, it's possibly the first supercar. The level of want, for me, is very strong indeed.

The first tangible SL DNA lies in the W113, or Pagoda. I drove the smaller 230 SL, but with the rare manual transmission and overdrive. What's immediately apparent is Mercedes' acute understanding of how a car like the SL would actually be used by the owner, as opposed to what might have excited the road testing fraternity at the time.

Elbow resting on the door-top, it's a perfect California land-yacht, not especially fast, but tuneful and relaxing. Rev it out and the 150hp six gives a reasonable turn of speed and I can imagine on a damp road it would cut shapes like a modern M3. Add in the removable hard-top that owners could fit for the winter and you had a sports car with a much broader operating window than any other machine. Therein lies the kernel which seeded the DNA of subsequent generations.

Especially the R107. The older a bloke gets, the more he likes the 107. As I say on the video, I was gutted when they handed me the keys to a 300 SL manual, but it turned out to be one of the best surprises of 2012 so far. It was a 1988 car with the 180hp six and it drove just the way I want one of these cars to drive - soothing but tuneful and offering reward at very low speeds through perfect control weights. I never thought I'd want to change gear myself in an R107, but this was actually pleasant. The sprung seat poinged up and down, the cabin felt like it would last another 300 years and then I got out and looked at it: it's beautiful. No wonder they made it for 18 years.

A Mercedes SL in its comfort zone, yesterday
A Mercedes SL in its comfort zone, yesterday
There wasn't time to drive an R129, but I did get a ride in one of the 20 SL73s with Roland Asch around the Ascari circuit - which was suitably crazy. That's another shape which seems to be ageing with uncommon grace. The last R230 model suffers from being a part of the Schremp era of cost-cutting, but the later, facelifted cars were impressive things, especially the SL63, which I ran for a year and fell in love with. You don't realise how many things an SL can do, just how broad its competencies are until you live with one for four seasons.

And the new car? Well, here's the full review from a fortnight ago. It's a car that does even more, even better. It's a car to live with, not test for a day and its looks still don't quite do it for me. But if today's SL500 can perform the way it does, the SL63 is going to raise a few eyebrows.
Enjoy the vid.

 

 

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Nice video. Totally agree with all the sentiments.

The SL is a much overlooked, amazingly competent bit of kit. There is much, much more to it than the golf club cruiser it is pigeonholed to be. Real engineering integrity is here.

Best of all is the 198. Awesome old thing.

Good to see Mr Harris is appreciating the old timers.

Dave Hedgehog

14,549 posts

204 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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the old ones are nice, the new one just does nothing for me

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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When I have to own just one car, it will be an R129 500.....

Tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

154 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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WANT!

Hellbound

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176 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Dave Hedgehog

14,549 posts

204 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Erwin1978

97 posts

146 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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What about that SL73? Is that with the Zonda engine?

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

191 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Erwin1978 said:
What about that SL73? Is that with the Zonda engine?
Mercedes are building an SL63, the Zonda engine is however bespoke to Pagani.

Luca Brasi

885 posts

174 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Really nice vid! Love my dad's R107 280SL. Really have to stop myself to take it out for a cruise when he's out hehe

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Was I the only one who wanted to see Harris on the old SL55 amg? Just for fun!

anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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A bit contradicting r.e. steering feel.

Chris said the W198 had a lack of feel, so anyone saying modern cars are losing that is talking cods wollop. Then says that the newest one feels slightly detached with EPAS?!

No biggy, just pointing it out. A great video as always, love watching them.

Davey S2

13,092 posts

254 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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How big does the seat on the new car look!

Harris looks like he is sat in a DFS showroom.

LayZ

1,626 posts

242 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Have to agree - good as I am sure the new one is, it looks naff compared to the older cars. I was enjoying the retrospective until this hulking great silver thing came on the screen.

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

185 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Davey S2 said:
How big does the seat on the new car look!

Harris looks like he is sat in a DFS showroom.
Wasn't just me that thought that then! He looked like he needed a smoking jacket and a pipe to compliment the armchair!!

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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Chicane-UK said:
Davey S2 said:
How big does the seat on the new car look!

Harris looks like he is sat in a DFS showroom.
Wasn't just me that thought that then! He looked like he needed a smoking jacket and a pipe to compliment the armchair!!
I also thought this - it looked like he was in a Rolls!

MRCC

337 posts

157 months

Thursday 29th March 2012
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Showing all of those classic models just serves to highlight how ugly the new one is with the bug eyed headlamps. The rear although slightly better looks old hat with the big rear lamps too.

Regards,

Mr. CC.

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

198 months

Thursday 29th March 2012
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Chris, I must say I really enjoy your videos.

I hate Mercs, (mostly SL's) for no reason what so ever; but I still watched and enjoyed the video.

Ta muchly


GingerWizard

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Thursday 29th March 2012
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GingerWizard said:
Chris, I must say I really enjoy your videos.

I hate Mercs, (mostly SL's) for no reason what so ever; but I still watched and enjoyed the video.

Ta muchly


GingerWizard
I agree... I had no love for SLs (aside from the '55) until this vid - great insight though.

So, Harris, for all this 'steering feel' how are they in feel compared to the 4.0? Is the 4.0 the modern iteration of the first car you drove?

And when are you going to flog it looking at the prices Porsche UK are getting right now? smile

marmite monster

143 posts

227 months

Thursday 29th March 2012
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another great video chris ..........not a merc fan but still enjoyed smile