RE: PH2 ridden: Ducati Panigale

RE: PH2 ridden: Ducati Panigale

Friday 6th April 2012

PH2 ridden: Ducati Panigale

£24K's worth of very noisy, very fast and very exciting Ducati gets the PH2 treatment



You are given the keys to a brand new Ducati Panigale Tricolore at 9am and told to return them, and the bike, by 5pm that day. What do you do? To PH2 the answer is simple - trash the hell out of it on the road, stick it on a dyno then take it to Bruntingthorpe proving ground to see what it does flat out...

Tricolore is the top of the Panigale range
Tricolore is the top of the Panigale range
What's the deal then?
There are four variations of Panigale for sale. The base 1199 Panigale (not stock, that makes it sound cheap) costs £14,995 or £15,750 with ABS. This has all the electric gizmos but to get the flash electrically adjustable Ohlins suspension you need to pay an extra £4,000 and get the Panigale 1199S for £19,750, which comes with ABS as standard.

Then you have the Tricolore, which will set you back a burly £23,495. As well as the trick paint job you get Ducati's datalogging kit with a new GPS feature and also a set of titanium Termignoni performance silencers. PH2 lucks out: we get the key to the Tricolore.

Trick Ohlins dampers all part of the deal
Trick Ohlins dampers all part of the deal
On the road
Picking the bike up from Ducati UK at Silverstone the first thing that strikes you is its size. The Panigale is tiny, a beautiful Italian toy of a bike that looks stunning, especially in its patriotic paint scheme.

After the usual five minutes while a technician explains how the vast array of electronics work I get the key and off I go.

When I first saw the specs of the Panigale I though it would be a complete animal. The bike it supersedes, the 1198S, is bordering on the unrideable on the road - it's simply too ferocious. The Panigale has, Ducati claims, about 20hp more than the 1198S, which was a little concerning. Lighter, more powerful and with sharper geometry - sounds like a recipe for disaster. It isn't.

Titanium Termignoni exhausts are L-O-U-D
Titanium Termignoni exhausts are L-O-U-D
Pulling out of the car park the Panigale feels light and incredibly agile. It's markedly lighter than the 1198 and feels a good few kilograms less than the Japanese 1000s. But best of all it isn't an animal at low speed. Roundabouts aren't too much of a hassle and the clutch lever doesn't require the hands of a gorilla to pull it in - dare I say it, Ducati's new superbike feels, well, quite civilised.

Getting from Ducati to the dyno house involves a fairly dull straight road that has a fair few unmarked police cars so other than noticing the mirrors are useless and vibrate like something from Ann Summers and the riding position is cramped but not too bad, the next 50 or so miles are fairly uneventful. Don't get me wrong, keeping the revs below 8,000rpm still makes the bike shift at a hell of a rate, but it doesn't feel anything like the animal I was expecting.

Dyno unleashes flames and scary figures
Dyno unleashes flames and scary figures
Even the gearbox is incredibly slick, helped by one of the best quickshifters I have ever used. There is a hint at something hiding up the rev range when I exit one roundabout hitting 8,000rpm in second and feel the front end going a bit light but the roads are damp and I'm behaving myself.

On the dyno
Hearing a bike on a dyno is a glorious experience - in-line fours wail at 15,000rpm and with 600cc machines you end up backing away for fear of catching an escaping piston in the gob. The Panigale sounds lazy.

The Termignoni pipes drone a stunning, booming exhaust note but I'm convinced the dyno man isn't revving it out. A redline of 11,000rpm is pretty high for a twin but the Panigale never sounds like it's straining - although it does unleash a few flames from the cans on over-run. Then we see the chart...

186hp and 95ft lb of torque at the rear wheel - holy shit! Japanese manufacturers claim their power figures at the sparkplug, Ducati is usually fairly honest but this is still amazing.

Overlaying curves with 1198 is revealing
Overlaying curves with 1198 is revealing
But it is an odd chart. Usually Ducatis are stacked full of mid-range but the Panigale seems to be missing a chunk between 5,000rpm and 8,000rpm. We overlay a 1198 and you can see the brutal thrust of torque that the makes it so difficult to ride on the road. Ducati has lopped this off on the Panigale, which is why it feels so civilised and pleasant to ride in comparison. Well, below 8,000rpm...

Back on the roads (and away fromthe police)
Jesus wept... I've just hit 8,000rpm in first and the clear and easy to read digital dash is a lot closer and easier to read as it is trying to smack me in my nose. I stick it in second, using the gears as an anti-wheelie device, then as the Panigale hits 8,000rpm in second the front is up again. Third gear calms it down, but only until a slight crest in the road is enough to launch is skyward. The civilised bike has disappeared. Open the Panigale up and it is all superbike.

Maybe a full tank will keep the nose down?
Maybe a full tank will keep the nose down?
The throttle seems to have a lot less twist than other bikes, closed to open is no effort and the brakes are superb. Not overly aggressive like the 1198, just strong without being overkill. I'm starting to love this bike and barrelling along the back roads at a pace that isn't quite legal is a fantastic experience. People often ask me what the best bike I've ever ridden is. Usually I say the 1098R is the most memorable, I think I may say Panigale from now on.

Through the corners the Ohlins suspension is superb. The road I'm on is a bit bumpy so I would probably back it off a bit if I could be bothered, but I can't. It would only take a few clicks of the mode button to adjust it but I quite like the sensation of a bike kicking every now and then, it makes you feel like you are trying.

The new benchmark says PH2
The new benchmark says PH2
Fast direction changes are laughed off by the chassis while the sound of the Termignonis on full chat is mesmerising. You could get into a lot of trouble on a Panigale on the road, and on the Tricolore there is no hiding you approach. Thankfully Bruntingthorpe approachs just as I am starting to get a bit carried away...

On the strip
I don't confess to be any great speed tester. To launch a bike and get the best possible quarter mile you have to balance the throttle, rear brake and clutch and while on a bike such as the Hayabusa PH2 tested recently this isn't an issue. On the Panigale it is. The damn thing just wheelies everywhere - it's ridiculous! You can't accelerate flat out in first because as soon as it hits 8,000rpm the front is up, and the same happens in second. I find the best (and least scary tactic) is to launch in first, short shift to second when the front goes up, keep it in second as long as I dare and then stick it in third and hold it open. The results are impressive but not amazing - 0-60mph in 3.82 seconds, 0-100 mph in 6.39 seconds and a top speed of 171.33mph. A head wind doesn't help, but I thought the Panigale would be faster - maybe I'm losing my touch...

0-60mph in 3.82 sec and 57.47meters
0-100mph in 6.39 sec and 149.77meters
171mph in 28.94 sec and 1661meters
¼ mile: 10.87 sec @ 145.13 mph

Still somewhat lairy but not quite as scary
Still somewhat lairy but not quite as scary
What did we learn?
The nine hours we spent together fly past. A lot has been said about the Panigale and how good it is on track. I haven't ridden it on a circuit, but you can tell it will be amazing. The chassis is superb, engine wonderful and brakes top drawer - however it is also surprisingly good on the road. The lack of grunt (when compared to the 1198) makes the Panigale a much nicer road bike that once stirred up can certainly unleash an insane side, however it can also be ridden fairly calmly. It has some irritations, twins can be tricky very low in the revs and things such as the mirrors and annoyingly placed headlight switch is a pain. However as a Ducati fan I have to say you can believe the hype - the Panigale is one hell of a bit of kit, even on the road. Any one fancy lending me £24K?


DUCATI 1199S PANIGALE TRICOLORE
Engine: 1198cc V-twin
Power: 186hp@11,000rpm (tested)
Torque: 95ft lb@8,500rpm (tested)
Top speed: 171mph
Weight: 190.5kg (wet) 166.5kg (dry)
MPG: 30 (approx)
Price: £23,495

Dyno video:

Top speed run video:

 

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Discussion

Dr Imran T

Original Poster:

2,301 posts

199 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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The bike looks very slick but, it's a shame those mirrors seem to spoil the look.

Not sure why but they keep getting my attention!

Great bike otherwise if a little pricey.

FlopperV60

222 posts

208 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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What a lovely bit of kit, I can't wait to try one I just hope it's not too small for my big frame! The trend of modern superbikes becoming smaller doesn't gell with my growing waistline

Gixer_fan

290 posts

198 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Better than the S1000RR?
Imagine what it would be like after a re-map to fill in the mid range....

ZesPak

24,428 posts

196 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Dr Imran T said:
The bike looks very slick but, it's a shame those mirrors seem to spoil the look.

Not sure why but they keep getting my attention!
They would look a lot better if fitting in with the paint scheme. Or just paint them white.

ge0rge

3,053 posts

205 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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171 mph, is that impressive - i thought these types of bikes were pushing out 190+?

Buffalo Girls

263 posts

212 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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What a lovely thing. Want.

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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ge0rge said:
171 mph, is that impressive - i thought these types of bikes were pushing out 190+?
171mph in the space available.

Barbarossa

144 posts

218 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Makes me smile biggrin - Borgo Panigale is where the Ducati factory is. But in Bologna it is better known as the best place to pick up a "working" girl!

Edited by Barbarossa on Friday 6th April 13:53


Edited by Barbarossa on Friday 6th April 13:53

George H

14,707 posts

164 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Like this a lot but I prefer the look of the 1198 if I'm honest. I'd be happy with either though smile

FestivAli

1,088 posts

238 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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As much as I've read what a fantastic thing it is to ride, I still cannot get over how ugly the front is. For some reason it reminds me of a fly or some other insect. So if I were in the market I'd be looking at something like the BMW, or Kawasaki ZX-10R, or perhaps the GSXR. It's not to say I don't like Ducatis however; in my opinion the Streetfighter is the best current looking bike (in red, followed shorty by the Daytona 675R, and then the Guzzi V7 Racer).

09 GS500F (blue, white, first bike) for the record

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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I do like this bike, the distinctive note it makes reminds me very much of an Impreza. If I were buying, I'd want a screaming Japanese bike though, the Panigale just sounds like it's getting going before it runs out revs and has to shift up.

ducnick

1,783 posts

243 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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The 1098R is prettier to my eyes. I miss those high level cans on the 1199, although im sure its a better bike to ride. This seems to go head to head with the Aprilia RSV4 on looks and the more friendly power curve.
I cant get over the feeling that they have tried to make this more like a 4 cylinder litre bike to ride with its massive bore and minimal stroke. I hope they havent lost the appeal of a big twin in the process.

ram17

56 posts

169 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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My list for given new bikes a go just grew by one. I've riden my buds 1198S and it's a handful, if Ducati has made this new bike even a little more street rideable it will be on my short list of possible new machines I will throw my leg over and call my own. My bud swears by Ducati and that exhaust note is so different and I mean that in a good way. Well done Ducati.....can't wait to give one of these a try. Keep that right hand cranked!

RobST170

30 posts

151 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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This bike is stunning, from every angle. Most impressive new bike in a long time.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Orgasmic.

StuB

6,695 posts

239 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Gixer_fan said:
Better than the S1000RR?
Imagine what it would be like after a re-map to fill in the mid range....
You'd have to question the premium over the '12 S1000 with a few choice aftermarket tweaks, easthetics excluded.

Will remember the Borgo note, for when I'm next over biggrin

DeltaEvo2

869 posts

192 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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STUNNING!

_g_

741 posts

201 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Gixer_fan said:
Imagine what it would be like after a re-map to fill in the mid range....
Suspect it's more to do with aiming for a high power figure with a big bore, big valves etc.

It's often good to have a non-expert rider giving their opinion, but I also like to see that can be trusted to decently push the abilities of a bike.
Nothing personal and am a bit out of practice myself too I admit; not sure if the listed acceleration times include reaction time or something, but slower to 60 than an SV650 is pretty poor!

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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_g_ said:
Suspect it's more to do with aiming for a high power figure with a big bore, big valves etc.

It's often good to have a non-expert rider giving their opinion, but I also like to see that can be trusted to decently push the abilities of a bike.
Nothing personal and am a bit out of practice myself too I admit; not sure if the listed acceleration times include reaction time or something, but slower to 60 than an SV650 is pretty poor!
0-100 should be 5.something, 0-60 about 2.9, 70-150 would be a blink smile

The performance figures listed will do nothing for sales of the bike!

ShampooEfficient

4,267 posts

211 months

Saturday 7th April 2012
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Those shift lights look brilliant!