RE: PH2: MV Agusta F3

RE: PH2: MV Agusta F3

Friday 13th April 2012

PH2: MV Agusta F3

The F3 has been much-hyped, but is it actually any good? PH2's Jon Urry finds out



This week the first 30 MV Agusta F3s will land in the UK. But will it be a welcome present to the owners all of these pre-sold machines? PH2 slung a leg over the first MV in the UK to see if one of the most eagerly anticipated bikes of 2012 lives up to its expectations...

Looking glam in Milan...
Looking glam in Milan...
The hype
With a 675cc triple engine that boasts an incredibly large bore and small stroke, not to mention an electronics package that is far more advanced than any other sports 600, the F3 should, on paper at least, decimate the opposition. No other 600 has traction control or variable engine braking. In fact, no other production motorcycle (you can't buy Yamaha's YZR-M1) has a counter-rotating crank like the F3. When it comes to technology the F3 moves the supersport class another giant leap forward in much the same way the BMW S1000RR did in the 1.0-litre bike class.

This, along with its knockout beauty, is why so many, myself included, were so excited about the launch of the F3. I'll be honest, I was actually more looking forward to riding the F3 than I was the Ducati Panigale...

...less so with only Urry hound for company
...less so with only Urry hound for company
The reality
I've spent a long time drooling over the F3 at bike shows. Not only was the Italian model at the Milan bike show simply stunning (check out the pic for evidence) the bike itself is fantastic. Away from the spotlight, and with only my dog as a comparison model, the F3 still looks gorgeous. It sums up everything wonderful about Italian design (although it was actually styled by a Brit, Adrian Morton) with its graceful yet aggressive lines. I could look at it all day, which is handy because as it transpires riding it all day isn't half as pleasing.

Fire up the F3 and it sounds stunning. A bit raw and rough, but I like that in a bike. It doesn't have the same engine note as a Triumph Daytona and is altogether more aggressive and purposeful. Blip the throttle and the revs ride and fall with serious haste, giving an indication as to the motor's character, the F3 has virtually no engine inertia and feels as if it is lacking a flywheel it picks up so quickly. Slip it into first and away we go.


I say away, in truth it's more of an ungainly lurch, as the F3 refuses to fuel properly. The bike I rode was a very early model and MV is now developing a new fuel map - a good thing as the fuelling on the bike I rode was horrific. Constant throttle at low revs was impossible, as the bike either surged forward or backed off, creating a lurching ride. I don't think I have ridden a bike with as poor fuel injection and I can't understand how it was ever passed as ready for sale. Luckily things get better with speed.

Up the pace and the F3 changes character completely. The chassis is superb, far sportier than a Japanese 600 with a precise and accurate feel. Oddly I didn't find the riding position that uncomfortable - naturally the seat is lacking in padding, the mirrors are crap and the motor vibrates a bit, but despite being sporty the F3 isn't overly cramped.


Get the motor singing and it feels so much sportier than the Daytona triple. The longer stroke of the Triumph gives its triple a more relaxed character while the short stroke/large bore of the MV creates a lighter, rev-hungry engine. The effect of the counter-rotating crank is barely noticeable, but the lack of engine inertia of the F3 is irritating, making it feel like the bike is about to stall at low speed.

But it isn't half as annoying as the 'backing-in control' which opens the throttle butterflies and, alarmingly, gives the impression the bike is accelerating into slow corners or roundabouts. It may be the most advanced supersport bike when it comes to electronics, but they nigh-on ruin the F3. Who needs traction control on a 600?

Rough diamond or just plain rough?
We wanted to like the F3, we really did. It is stunning to look at and unbelievably clever technology-wise - but the simple fact is that doesn't feel finished. Riding the F3 on the road is a pain and you get the feeling that, unless you are 100 per cent on it, you are contstantly embroiled in a fight against its irritations. On a dry track the chassis, amazing brakes and rev-happy motor make it a joy, on the road these same things make it a pain. The electronics are a hindrance more than a help (the new fuel map may go some way to curing this but we're not convinced). In all honesty, I'd rather have a Triumph than the MV. Beauty is one thing, but when beauty is only skin deep it soon wears thin...

 



MV Agusta F3
Engine
: 675cc, liquid-cooled triple, DOHC, fuel injection
Power: 118hp at 14,200rpm
Torque: 46lb ft at 10,000 lb ft
Top Speed: 158mph (est)
Weight: 173kg (dry)
MPG: 35mpg (est)
Price: £9,999


 



Author
Discussion

sinbaddio

Original Poster:

2,370 posts

176 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
Those wing mirrors certainly aren't finished, talk about an unsightly pimple on a supermodel...

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
Why have you got the top speed down as 158mph, when the video shows 279kph? Even if the bike's reading high quite a lot, it must be well over 160?

sprinter1050

11,550 posts

227 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
McSam said:
Why have you got the top speed down as 158mph, when the video shows 279kph? Even if the bike's reading high quite a lot, it must be well over 160?
That's because they're Italiano kph. Everyone knows they're worth more than 1 ordinary kph.

Stunning
Flawed
Shame

Sums it up really

Edited by sprinter1050 on Friday 13th April 12:44

Steve Evil

10,658 posts

229 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
All the other reports I've read suggested that putting it in Normal mode on those early mappings makes the fuelling much better.

VidalBaboon

9,074 posts

215 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
I'm soooo glad someone's made another bike that isn't big enough for a grown-up. rolleyes

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
VidalBaboon said:
I'm soooo glad someone's made another bike that isn't big enough for a grown-up. rolleyes
Even Japs would look huge on some bikes these days.

J B L

4,200 posts

215 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
Everything the world needs: a low volume Italian bike packed with complex electronics. thumbup


VidalBaboon

9,074 posts

215 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
Hooli said:
VidalBaboon said:
I'm soooo glad someone's made another bike that isn't big enough for a grown-up. rolleyes
Even Japs would look huge on some bikes these days.
Would you really buy one of these over a 675R? More power, lighter, newer looking bike and it's British!

I'd love to see an F3 Vs. 675R death match at Cadwell. Future PH2 article? biggrin

HFEVO2

72 posts

207 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
Oh Dear !

I saw the F3 when it was first displayed in the UK and have wanted one ever since.

What a disappointment ! I certainly wouldn't buy one until I've seen at least a couple of positive tests.

If my name was down for one of the first F3s in the UK I would try and cancel it for the time being on the basis of this review.

btdk5

1,851 posts

190 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
HFEVO2 said:
Oh Dear !

I saw the F3 when it was first displayed in the UK and have wanted one ever since.

What a disappointment ! I certainly wouldn't buy one until I've seen at least a couple of positive tests.

If my name was down for one of the first F3s in the UK I would try and cancel it for the time being on the basis of this review.
You wouldnt say, test ride it yourself and get your own opinion??

Deranged Granny

2,313 posts

168 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
Was it a close race with the tractor?

digitalrurouni

19 posts

147 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
I own a 2007 MV Agusta F4 Senna and you know what? It had the same fuelling issues. MV just cannot do fuelling at all. I ended up getting the Race ECU at the time for the bike to get rid of the fuelling surges and the dreaded 5k rpm flatspot and had it dyno tuned. The improvement was dramatic. There are aftermarket solutions like the PowerCommander and another better one the nameof which escapes me at the moment. But it sucks when a manufacturer cannot deliver a proper fuelling on a bike because that in my opinion is one of the single most impactful things that will decide whether you enjoyed the ride or not. I wish MV would sort their game. And honestly what is with all these electronics on a 600?!

Sivraj

256 posts

191 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
I loved the the origional MV but I'm loosing interest in the shape now, I think they need to re-vitalize it a little.
Was it me or did the screen get pushed down at high speeds? (it looked like it in the video).
It would have been a bit embaressing if the tractor won!....

TimmyWimmyWoo

4,306 posts

181 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
How on earth are people getting fuelling wrong in 2012? It's not like they spent all the time freshening up their tired one aesthetic either.


bob1179

14,107 posts

209 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
Stunning looking machine, a little bit disappointed about the review, I would like to have a ride on one though to make my own mind up. It looks like a cracking ride.

As for the Italian model sat on the bike - my lordy does she look gorgeous. She has just the right amount of 'dirty' in her eyes to get me all moist.

smile

PaulMoor

3,209 posts

163 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
Can someone tell me, are those ugly wing mirror indicators some new legal requirement somewhere, or is it just that designers have started designing bikes without wing mirrors (so as not to ruin the flow) then letting an engineer design the road required bits?

Mike Rob

1,017 posts

191 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
Mine arrived over a week ago, is sitting in the garage and looks beautiful smile

BlackPrince

1,271 posts

169 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
bob1179 said:
Stunning looking machine, a little bit disappointed about the review, I would like to have a ride on one though to make my own mind up. It looks like a cracking ride.

As for the Italian model sat on the bike - my lordy does she look gorgeous. She has just the right amount of 'dirty' in her eyes to get me all moist.

smile
That hair tho its all over the place! Like she's taken a high speed ride in a Porsche 911 Turbo Cab or summat

CliveM

525 posts

185 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
Such a shame - was thinking one of those in a year or so would be perfect frown

WhiteBaron

1,394 posts

226 months

Friday 13th April 2012
quotequote all
CliveM said:
Such a shame - was thinking one of those in a year or so would be perfect frown
it will be ............... when you update the fuel map.

I love the fact the fact with one of these in the garage, i'd open the garage door..............

and then have to think "other thoughts" for 5 minutes before i could get on it !

This is why its slower than jap/other bikes wink always 5 mins behind !!