RE: Driven: Audi S6 and S7

RE: Driven: Audi S6 and S7

Wednesday 18th April 2012

Driven: Audi S6 and S7

VW Group's new twin-turbo V8 filters into the new S6 and S7 Sportback. But are they convincing sporty execs?



The new Audi S6 and S7 are curiously niche models for Audi in the UK. For a company that sold 113,797 cars in the UK in 2011, its ambitions for the new S6 and S7 are tiny - it expects to shift only 80-100 examples of each (the S6 in both saloon and Avant forms) during the next 12 months.


On the face of it this seems odd. With ostentation and conspicuous consumption effectively dirty words in a 'crisis-ridden' world, the relatively subtle charms of S model Audis might, you would think, hold a greater appeal. Especially since the fashionably downsized V8 can now manage a fairly creditable 29.4mpg on the combined cycle, although the payoff is that the S6 (and S7) drop 15hp over the old S6's naturally aspirated V10, 420hp playing 435hp.

That modest fuel consumption is helped by cylinder deactivation technology that turns the V8 into a four-cylinder engine under certain conditions (the noise and vibration cancellation tech for which is identical to that in the Audi S8 we drove last year - and very effective).

Besides, for the moment there is no RS6 range-topper (though it's a racing certainty that one is in the offing); so this is the fastest A6-type Audi saloon you can get for now. And it is fast. There's 420hp available at 5,500-6,400rpm, and a steady wallop of 405lb ft of torque between 1,400 and 5,200rpm, giving both S6 and S7 the capacity to hit 62mph from rest in 4.6 seconds on the way to an electronically limited top speed of 155mph.


Niche work if you can get it...
Part of the reason for Audi UK's modest ambitions is that the S6 and S7 are not really aimed at the British market. Audi implicitly admits as much, citing the US as its primary market for the cars.

Further proof comes when you take a look at the cars Audi wants us to think of as rivals for its S6/S7 pairing: The BMW 550i M Sport and Jaguar XF V8 for the S6, the BMW 550i GT and the Mercedes CLS 500 for the S7. None of which exactly flies out of the showroom.

What's also particularly interesting about these rivals is that, unlike the S-badged Audis, they are not marketed under a sporty sub-brand; Jaguar, Mercedes and BMW (at least for the moment) save that sort of thing for more hardcore offerings only.


Who are you?
This is where the S6 and S7 hit an identity crisis. Drive them and they feel precisely as you might expect, given the market position Audi is angling for; like high-end versions of large, relatively sporty executive cars.

The problem is that the S heaps a rather more sporty weight of expectation upon the cars' shoulders. Lower down the Audi sporting pecking order, the TTS and S3 are both sufficiently lively and involving to feel genuinely enthusiast oriented, but in the upper echelons of Audi's range that ground is very much left to the RS-badged products of Quattro GmbH.

As a result, the subtle-but-definitely-there sporting cues (trademark silver door mirrors, supportive quilted leather seats, 'V8 T' inscribed on the wings and a smattering of S6 or S7 badges) strike a discord with the way the cars actually drive. Sure, there's no doubting their pace - which is actually quite a surprise given that the S6 and S7 give away a solid 100hp to the similarly-engined S8 and yet weigh a mere 80kg and 30kg less than the big 1,975kg limo respectively - but there's a soft, refined edge to their dynamic behaviour that is a little unexpected, given their performance-saloon visuals.


Even with the Audi Drive Select system in Dynamic mode there's less sharpness to the turn-in than you might expect, the air suspension taking a moment or two to settle into a cornering stance. Likewise the engine note and gearshift all feel executive car refined as opposed to sports saloon sharp.

It's a question of perception
This is not necessarily a bad thing, however. Approach the S6 and S7 with your expectations adjusted to a less focused, er, focus and the cars suddenly begin to make sense.

The interior design and quality is everything you expect in an Audi, for example. It's beautifully put-together and well equipped, but there's now an added softness and luxury feel to the cabin design - both S6 and S7 have virtually identical interiors since they are basically different bodystyles of the same car. It's a similar quasi-cosiness that makes the A8 and takes away the cold edge of Audi interiors of old.


Another trick Audi seems to have translated from the A8 is that of making a large car ride comfortably. We wouldn't go too much out on a limb here - the Bavarian country roads of our test route were smoother than a politician in full excuse mode - but on first impressions both S6 and S7 seem blessed with a remarkably civilised ride quality.

Combine that ride, the quality-feeling interior and a seven-speed S Tronic dual clutch gearchange that seems perfectly matched to the torquey twin-turbo V8 and you've got an appealing high-speed cruiser with a whiff of sporting intent.

Same, but different
It should be noted, though, that the S6 and S7 are not identical twins. Despite running identical running gear and suspension set-ups, the different bodies (in particular the S7's extra weight) make the cars feel subtly different from one another. Of the two, it is the S6 that feels marginally more taut and sharp in its responses, the heavier body in the S7 giving it a little more lean in corners, and dulling its responses a touch.


Even so, the dynamic differences between the cars, although tangibly there, are sufficiently small as to enable us to sum-up both cars in one conclusion: Fast, surefooted and undeniably well-built, but perhaps not the cars for a committed B-road blast.

The S6 and S7 are not the last word in sports saloons, then (the S7 isn't even a 'saloon'). But if you are one of the hundred-or-so 39-55 year-olds 'fascinated by technology', with two cars and a 'top executive' job (or, presumably, if you are an American), then one of them might just be the car for you. Everybody else will probably want to wait for the RS6...


AUDI S6
Engine:
 3,993cc V8, twin-turbo
Transmission:7-speed dual-clutch, four-wheel drive
Power (hp):420@5,500-6,400rpm
Torque (lb ft):405@,1400-5,200rpm
0-62mph:  4.6 sec
Top speed: 155mph
Weight: 1,895kg (S7: 1,945kg)
MPG: 29.4mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 225g/km
Price:£53,995 (S7: £56,050)



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MagicalTrevor

Original Poster:

6,476 posts

230 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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fizz47

2,689 posts

211 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Im sure if I drove one I would really enjoy these Audi's but why when I look at them does it make me go...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

fizz47

2,689 posts

211 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Im sure if I drove one I would really enjoy these Audi's but why when I look at them does it make me go...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Snowboy

8,028 posts

152 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Those wing mirrors look like it’s been broken off and the wreckers only had silver ones in stock when the owner looked for a replacement.

I used to have a red Cavalier with silver wingmirrors for the same reason.


wst

3,494 posts

162 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Like the yawn spec A6 and A7 but with more doppler shift and chintz. I am not really sure I like these at all. Except that I'd like every Audi driver on the motorway to have them so I don't get smoked out every time they accelerate like I do at the moment...

Gatsods

388 posts

169 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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The A7 is such a handsome car imho, and it suits these S mods nicely I think. Lardier or not I'd have that of the two, very nice car.

ikarl

3,730 posts

200 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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they do absolutely nothing for me

MagicalTrevor

Original Poster:

6,476 posts

230 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Gatsods said:
The A7 is such a handsome car imho, and it suits these S mods nicely I think. Lardier or not I'd have that of the two, very nice car.
Front = ok, fairly nice looking
Back = hurl <insert platypus smiley>

Digga

40,373 posts

284 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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MagicalTrevor said:
Back = hurl <insert platypus smiley>
I've been pondering recently, after following a few of these; Did they 'make' the A7 purely to defray the cost of the tooling for the Panamera?

Garlick

40,601 posts

241 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Riggers looks like he's enjoying himself in that pic.....

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

179 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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AUDI ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ S6 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ £60K ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Nice plastics. Might have a wk about that later.

MG511

1,754 posts

242 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Was over in Germany last week visiting a friend who makes very nice furniture and one of his clients turned up in a dark grey A7, which I thought looked great, though it is too similar to the A5 Sportback. Audi just seem to hit the +% button on the copier when designing cars, A4-A6-A8 look far too alike.

Riggers

1,859 posts

179 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Johnboy Mac said:
AUDI ZZZZZZZ S6 ZZZZ £60K ZZZZ
(I paraphrase)

biggrin and I see what you're saying, but the S6 isn't really aimed at your average PHer, or really your average Brit car enthusiast at all.

Still, I really hope that the RS4 and RS6 (when it appears on the horizon) bring a little more passion to the mix

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

184 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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There once was an ugly duckling that grew up to be Mo Molem.

PaperCut

640 posts

148 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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If i had that sort of money i wouldn't even consider one, however when they reach £20-15k in, ooh i don't know, 3-4 years i would be more than happy to buy one. Funny that.

I'll have a (used) black S7 please.

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

179 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Riggers said:
Johnboy Mac said:
AUDI ZZZZZZZ S6 ZZZZ £60K ZZZZ
(I paraphrase)

biggrin and I see what you're saying, but the S6 isn't really aimed at your average PHer, or really your average Brit car enthusiast at all.

Still, I really hope that the RS4 and RS6 (when it appears on the horizon) bring a little more passion to the mix
Sorry Riggers, I got carried away there wink Yes, of course you are dead right, it's not aimed at the average PH'er but still a new German machine costing 60k that goes no doubt like st of a shovel, it really should light more peoples fires, I think so anyway.

TomM

662 posts

196 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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I quite like them (especially the 7)

4.0 V8, Twin Turbo, AWD, 420hp, 4.6 - 60, and still manages 29 MPG combined?!?

I like the rear end of the 5 and 7 fastbacks, nice to see them attempting something different - for a change.

OK, overall most Audi's are hard to tell apart - but if I were in the market for a £55k exec bruiser then with figures like those then I would have them both as options (but would end up with a used Quattroporte GTS)

Riggers

1,859 posts

179 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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Johnboy Mac said:
Sorry Riggers, I got carried away there wink Yes, of course you are dead right, it's not aimed at the average PH'er but still a new German machine costing 60k that goes no doubt like st of a shovel, it really should light more peoples fires, I think so anyway.
It really should...

rlc18

26 posts

182 months

Wednesday 18th April 2012
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The A7 looks like a dog walking along with its arse dragging behind on the floor.paperbag