RE: PH Fleet: Jaguar XF Diesel S

RE: PH Fleet: Jaguar XF Diesel S

Tuesday 8th May 2012

PH Fleet: Jaguar XF Diesel S

Chris Harris appears charmed by a diesel Jag, its taste in music just one of its strong points



As Jaguar strives to find its niche within the rapid Germanification of the luxury car sector, it's an interesting time to be using an XF Diesel S on a regular basis. I have now covered 3,500 miles in the fastest diesel Jag - even in those few months the relentless pace of model launches from BMW and Audi has seen the monster M550d and Audi's impressive bi-turbo A6 leave the XF's 275hp looking a little second division.

In truth the XF does now feel like the twilight product it actually is - last year's clever facelift has left it looking, to my eyes, very attractive - but it is ageing with uncommon grace and in a strange way its age lends it a sage-like feel from behind the steering wheel. Audi, BMW and Mercedes will offer you more modern, accomplished electronic navigation and general in-car electronics, but for pulse-lowering deportment this car takes some beating.

The low-speed ride issues from a cold start I reported a few weeks back still persist. I am now convinced the dampers need to warm-through on colder mornings. Once at operating temperature the car becomes a firm-riding sporting saloon capable of hitting 0-62mph in a claimed, and believable, 5.9sec. According to the trip computer it will average 39mpg on longer motorway trips. For someone who travels long distances, balancing the personal needs of performance with crippling fuel costs, I have

Ride better when warm but are 20s too much?
Ride better when warm but are 20s too much?
to say it's a hell of a trick. I know the Germans claim to go faster with greater frugality, but to anyone like me accustomed to fuelling and living with V8 petrol-powered machines for several years, this car is a bit of a revelation.

But the petrol boys are fighting back, and I recently averaged 26mpg in the new bi-turbo E63 AMG. To travel at a similar speed in the XF-S sees consumption drop to 33mpg.

I do wish this car's chassis was a little more comfort-biased though. My mate and journalist Andrew Frankel is running the smaller 2.2 diesel XF for Autocar and on its smaller 19-inch wheels and less aggressive spring rates it flows over bad surfaces in a way this car does not. With a lazy 442lb ft and the brilliant eight-speed ZF automatic, the rest of the XF package is perfectly set-up to welcome a pillowy ride. I would love to try a non-Portfolio spec car on the smaller 19-inch wheels, rather than these 20s and their Dunlop tyres.

Depending on your outlook, at night the cabin either defines a brave new Jaguarness, or looks like a Tron-themed brothel. I'm in the first camp. The way the blue LEDs follow trim lines and architecture is a brilliant diversion from the norm. It brings about a serenity and sense of wellbeing missing in any of its rivals. Daytime robs it of the chance to play that trick, but then the rotating air-vents are a good substitute. It all feels slightly cut-price-Rolls-Phantom, and that's meant as a big compliment.

There are frustrations with the control interfaces. The universal touchscreen-jobbie isn't the most intuitive or fastest way to get things done, but once you know its limitations and afford it some patience, it works fine. It also offers one of the best sat-navs for simply inputting UK postcodes and pressing 'go', a function I find very valuable.

The B&W hi-fi is good, if nothing like as impressive as the amazing kit found in the XJ. I'm wrestling with the iPod interface though. If my iPhone is Bluetooth linked to the car, the iPod will play for about 20 seconds then cut out. The upside to this is a (forced) introduction to the wonderful world of BBC 6Music through the optional £300 DAB radio. I don't use the wheel-mounted volume control because my thumb doesn't like its location. This might be the fault of my simian thumbs, so I am actively investigating the situation and will report back.

Plenty to enjoy here and full of character
Plenty to enjoy here and full of character
The seat is a little unsupportive for a shorty like me, and I have never liked the current Jag steering wheel with its five-inch thick 'spoke'. That said, I spent seven hours in the car last Thursday and didn't feel remotely fatigued. This I put down to the XF's one truly remarkable trait, its lack of wind noise. At a motorway cruise, this car is so quiet that Whisper from Live and Let Die would need to lower his voice to avoid startling fellow occupants.

I never opt to select gears manually, partly because the gearbox appears already to be hardwired into my brain, partly because the plastic paddles have the texture of an ice scraper. It's an example of perhaps the XF's biggest problem: if you scratch beneath the surface some of the trim just doesn't match the standard of the German brands. That's not to say it feels badly flimsy, more that the new 5 Series has upped the game standard.

There are several options fitted to this test car. They range from the genuinely useful (that DAB radio and the £240 heated steering wheel) to the completely forgettable £450 'JaguarVoice', all the way down to the drastic depths of the £460 Blind Spot thingy that confidently guided me into the path of a spiritedly driven Luton van. Apologies to the driver.

If the XF Diesel S doesn't quite match those newer rivals, it does pose an interesting question to potential buyers in that it offsets nearly all of its objective inferiority in being so damn attractive too look at and in not being another grey German saloon car - I know, just imagine this particular example isn't metallic grey.

£49,100 is big money, but then traveling in near silence with 442lb ft to blow away dawdlers with the prospect of nearly 40mpg is quite a repertoire. I just wish the ride was sweeter.


FACT SHEET
Car:
2012 Jaguar XF Diesel S
Run by: Chris Harris
On fleet since: March 2012
Mileage: 12,500
List price new: £53,670 (base price £49,110 plus £1,275 for Adaptive Cruise Control with Intelligent Emergency Brake and active seat belts, £460 for Blind Spot Monitor, £240 for heated steering wheel, £700 for digital/analogue TV, £300 for DAB, £275 for heated windscreen with timer, £360 for 60/40 split/fold rear seats, £450 for JaguarVoice and £500 for front parking aid with visual indicator and reversing camera)
Last month at a glance: Still curious about the dampers' cold weather behaviour, mainly impressed by comfort and refinement

 

 

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ST150HB

Original Poster:

446 posts

149 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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I drove one of these for the first time on the weekend, what a fantastic car. The way it constantly pulled forward was amazing.

I was very impressed with the interior and comfort of the car too.

A definite 10/10 from me!

hoganscrogan

725 posts

284 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Never been a fan of recent Jaguars ( 1975'ish on, styling and imagination, stagnation being my main bugbear) that is until the the latest batch, which seemed to cause horror in some quarters due to lack of wood and retro look.

Surely Jaguar's DNA was all about being modern and forward looking (XK, E etc.)? For me they lost out when they forgot this, kept looking over their shoulders and mimicked rather than using their past as inspiration (X-type styling?! Please).

I hope they continue down the path of moderist innovation in their own British/Indian, non-german way.

Edited by hoganscrogan on Tuesday 8th May 10:29

y2blade

56,091 posts

215 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Good write-up Chris cool

Maybe one day the anti-Diesel lot on PH (PHers NOT Staff) will start to take note, they aren't all bad smile

The Obeast

99 posts

144 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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best looking saloon car currently on the market. definately a lotto garage family car choice.

Blown2CV

28,786 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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I have a 2010 pre-facelift, but ultimately very similar model to the one tested. Echo on the ride, mine sits on 20s too and it does feel jittery sometimes, esp in 'dynamic' mode; but is still v smooth. The engine is fantastic, but mine could definitely do with the extra 2 ratios that the facelift model has - it needs a tall top for cruising. Hearing the figures though it doesn't appear to make much difference to the economy! I get high 30s only when I sit at 70mph for 450 miles on the cruise (which I do once a week usually), and even as fast as the car is, it encourages this kind of driving otherwise I may as well have just bought a petrol car. The trim is lovely, but just not quite to the level of the big boys. I have had a big merc before and everything just worked, was solid, and was just there. The Jag's bits can be a bit funny and flimsy in places, mine is going in for a warranty replacement of the wood veneer where it has cracked. Also the touchscreen/systems unit is not good - bluetooth drops my phone constantly and can't fit all my contacts (by a long way) and the sat nav takes 25 button presses to get going. That said, I do love it, it looks amazing and when you need it to be quick it certainly is!

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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y2blade said:
Good write-up Chris cool

Maybe one day the anti-Diesel lot on PH (PHers NOT Staff) will start to take note, they aren't all bad smile
Only third post and someone kicks off the old diesel argument? smile

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

183 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Nice, but I think I'd rather take the 5.0 V8 at £5000 less and spend the difference on fuel wink

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/new-cars/derivative/51...

Not that I'd ever be lucky enough to have such a dilemma of course.

Krikkit

26,514 posts

181 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Interesting to hear PH's thoughts on this car, and they echo mine.

My father has one of these facelifted cars, and it's mostly brilliant. With a slightly softer ride, and a more responsive touch-screen/sat-nav system (my biggest hatred is for touchscreens that are laggy, it winds me up no end) it would be almost perfect.

The interior looks and feels very nice, although some bits feel a bit less classy than the price tag suggests. The engine is a remarkable feat of engineering, managing to be brutally powerful and refined (for a diesel) at the same time.

The exterior looks fantastic, although the back end is a bit busy for my tastes, the overall package is wonderful. Most importantly he loves it - he had a string of the 90's XJ's which were all loved, and this has settled right in.

garypotter

1,498 posts

150 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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I love the car, great looking, good spec, and better than the German rivals that are everywhere! Jaguar are going to struggle to beat this car when they revamp it or offer a new model - which I hope they do..

Keep up the good work JLR.

gck303

203 posts

234 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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>>>>> in not being another grey German saloon car

Yeah, what happened? What are new cars so ugly, grey and aggressive. Plus they all look like training shoes.

BORING!

Seriously, give me something in Primrose Yellow or Baby Blue!


y2blade

56,091 posts

215 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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gck303 said:
>>>>> in not being another grey German saloon car

Yeah, what happened? What are new cars so ugly, grey and aggressive. Plus they all look like training shoes.

BORING!

Seriously, give me something in Primrose Yellow or Baby Blue!
I like this colour myself



more here:
http://rules.config.jaguar.com/rc/jag/en_gb/cv_jsc...

Dr Interceptor

7,773 posts

196 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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gck303 said:
Seriously, give me something in Primrose Yellow or Baby Blue!
Here's mine, in primrose yellow. Albeit not a Jag, my Jag is Carnival Red.


gck303

203 posts

234 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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y2blade said:
gck303 said:
>>>>> in not being another grey German saloon car

Yeah, what happened? What are new cars so ugly, grey and aggressive. Plus they all look like training shoes.

BORING!

Seriously, give me something in Primrose Yellow or Baby Blue!
I like this colour myself



That is a great colour. And so is the Cashmere. How many will they sell in these colours, though?

As someone who has never, and unlikely, to buy a brand new car I am unfortunately bound by the choice that the manufacturer has made when they planned their production. Yes, I know some cars are built to the order, though the majority are built to either dealer orders or speculatively by the manufacturer.

And at the moment it, I am ashamed to say, is silver. Why? I valued spec and price over colour, and mine was the only one for sale in the country at the time.

il sole

287 posts

144 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Blown2CV said:
I get high 30s only when I sit at 70mph for 450 miles on the cruise
I'm surprised at the low economy. If i sit at 70mph on cruise in my 330i auto i will get around 38 mpg. Mine also does 0-60 in around 6 seconds, but i would imagine mine weighs a lot less - they always look very big out on the roads!

Blown2CV

28,786 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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i too was surprised at the mpg! They are big and heavy, and plus with the twin sequential turbo there is no 'off boost' economical place to sit e.g. sub 2000rpm.

It is a great car and considering Jag had no money when it was being developed it is an unsurpassed feat by many measures. The touchscreen really illustrates cost savings though, it is quite st. In the iPad generation that we now live however, I can only imagine a lot of these systems will appear more and more st in the coming years.

hertfordshire1

143 posts

187 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Interesting review.

I have a 2010 spec XFS Premium Luxury. That has standard touring suspension and 20" alloys and I don't find the ride that bad at all. My last car was a SLK AMG and that was firmer than Katie Price's chest!

Even from cold the ride seems fine, so either i'm oblivious to the harshness or the standard cars are softer and more comfy (which would make sense).

They do come with some great kit, mine has the B&W hifi, ipod interface, parking sensors and camera, heated screen, telephone, DAB, etc etc. Only thing missed by the first owner who spec'd the car was xenons, which after returning to a car for 6 years without having them fitted is like buying a car without power steering!

Agree the touch screen is a little slow, but the car as a whole does what it is designed for, cruising at a decent lick of speed. Mine is a daily driver and I have put 15,000 miles on it in the last 5 months, without issue, the same mileage saw the AMG literally living at the dealers getting fault after fault fixed..

Chris if you're ever in Herfordshire pop by, you can drive my car and we can compare BMW M5's that are both of the hand built variety and non of this production line rubbish..

Cheers Steve

BigTom85

1,927 posts

171 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Lovely motor this. I'd love a more cooking version as a daily hack tbh, love what Jags are doing at the moment, they are on a roll!

tomoleeds

770 posts

186 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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if you were buying one with your own money it wouil not be a new one, there is a 2012 sport,with the extras this one has,plus reverse camera,cooled and heated seats,etc in gray,at Jag main dealer in wakefield its £23,k
inc vat.thats £30k lost off the price of your car,seen another in white 2012 with 212miles for £23k

k15tox

1,680 posts

181 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Really like these, the engine is brilliant.

I bet lots of people thought Jag was finished when TATA bought it.

Since then they have produced some really decent cars.

Long live Jaguar!

Blown2CV

28,786 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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tomoleeds said:
if you were buying one with your own money it wouil not be a new one, there is a 2012 sport,with the extras this one has,plus reverse camera,cooled and heated seats,etc in gray,at Jag main dealer in wakefield its £23,k
inc vat.thats £30k lost off the price of your car,seen another in white 2012 with 212miles for £23k
what's a sport? Can you post a link as I'm afraid those numbers don't stack. Those cars probably are 2.2D and not 3.0DS, and i can't imagine they are portfolio like this one.