Lancia, what has happened to them?

Lancia, what has happened to them?

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kazino

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1,580 posts

219 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Was just doing some Lancia Delta ogling and thought I would have a look at the Lancia website, I wish I had not.





boobles

15,241 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Sombody I know has a red one just like that & is immaculate.

mk1matt

405 posts

166 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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A better comparison would be a normal Delta, not an integrale. The ordinary versions of the original Delta were nothing special IMO.

Not that I approve of the modern Lancias!

marcosgt

11,030 posts

177 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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At least that IS a Lancia, not a Chrysler! frown

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tbc

3,017 posts

176 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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I don't understand why they launched the Lancia Delta in the UK as a Chrysler

was it something to do with the rep they had for rust buckets

Crystlers have a rep for being a piece of st anyway

but surely the Delta name in the UK is the holy grail of a rally car for the road

I thought they would have had more success if they had kept the Lancia Delta as a Lancia Delta in the UK

and brought out an Intergrale version with all the attributes of the original

think it would have sold by the bucket load

but i don't think I have ever seen a new Delta on the road

kambites

67,618 posts

222 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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The mainstay of Lancia's business has always been dull and/or ugly hatchbacks and saloons. They've just stopped doing the interesting stuff. This would be a fairer comparison:


anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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The new Delta when launched was actually a pretty decent car! Although it has only recently gone on sale over here it has been on sale since 2008 so is now passed its best!

The Ypsilon seems like a pretty decent car and is definitely one of the better looking city cars around.

For many years, even the Intergrale years, Lancia has been a bit of an Italian 'Rover'. Chrysler is a very similar brand aiming at similar people so; to me at least, it makes sense the two companies under Fiat work together. The next generation of cars could actually be quite interesting!

Lancia will never go back to making sporting cars, as that is covered by Alfa and Maserati. Cars that are a bit softer and more comfortable are likely to be the route that Lancia take. If they do it right could be a credible alternative to the hard edged Germans and rival cars like Citroens DS and become a fashionable alternative.

RammyMP

6,788 posts

154 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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I hired a Lancia Delta when I was on holiday at Easter, I thought Intergrale, got all exited and it was in fact a Fiat Brava with a frock on. Drove ok and to be fair the interior was quite nice, leather / alcantara.

Would I buy one? NO WAY!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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kazino said:
Was just doing some Lancia Delta ogling and thought I would have a look at the Lancia website, I wish I had not.




erm you do know Lancia made more than just the Intergrale don't you?

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Its actually a very daft own goal by FIAT not to put Lancia back into rallying. The Lancia/Chrysler tie up makes sense on the plaform, finance and business side. No problem. Aim them at the Rover-ish market. Again, no problem and for many years a standard Lancia market. The difference was Lancia always produced something sportingly special at the top of the tree.

Rallying is an open goal. Its Citreon only really, but with no marketing budget behind it. Rallying is languishing, but it has a dormant *very* developed fan base. Lancia take the Delta rallying with a new Integrale and they will have an instant fan base. Would you back Lancia to *not* be successful in competition?

2ltr turbo, 4wd, 300BHP, Italian leather clad interior, Recarros and Martini sponsorship. Badum and tish.

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Lancia died in 1969 (If your a gentleman).

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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DJRC said:
Its actually a very daft own goal by FIAT not to put Lancia back into rallying. The Lancia/Chrysler tie up makes sense on the plaform, finance and business side. No problem. Aim them at the Rover-ish market. Again, no problem and for many years a standard Lancia market. The difference was Lancia always produced something sportingly special at the top of the tree.

Rallying is an open goal. Its Citreon only really, but with no marketing budget behind it. Rallying is languishing, but it has a dormant *very* developed fan base. Lancia take the Delta rallying with a new Integrale and they will have an instant fan base. Would you back Lancia to *not* be successful in competition?

2ltr turbo, 4wd, 300BHP, Italian leather clad interior, Recarros and Martini sponsorship. Badum and tish.
Im with you but unfortuantely the Delta is just too big to rally. Its much longer than a focus and the new rally cars are Fiesta size with 1.6 turbo engines. It might work as some type of Touring car however.

kazino

Original Poster:

1,580 posts

219 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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punch

300bhp/ton said:
erm you do know Lancia made more than just the Intergrale don't you?

Dave Hedgehog

14,584 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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recent lancia is like subaru, a few halo rally cars, 99.9% white goods

kazino

Original Poster:

1,580 posts

219 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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GBDG

896 posts

155 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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I dunno, but that "Lancia" looks really pissed off



anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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If they were only to go with something like this! It wouldn’t necessary have to be a mega quick car, a nicely balanced, well equipped, quickish car somewhere between an MX-5 cars and an Audi TT would be perfect. It would do wonders for the profile of the brand and they have no shortage of platforms and engines to use.



300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Be amazed by the speed and grace of a Lancia....


kazino

Original Poster:

1,580 posts

219 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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frown

300bhp/ton said:
Be amazed by the speed and grace of a Lancia....

otolith

56,279 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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As I understand it, Fiat pulled Lancia out of motorsport because it was intended that Alfa would be the sporting brand and Lancia the luxury one. VAG-thinking.