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tvrnotrackdays

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18-May-2012
Two weeks ago (5-May-2012) I picked up my dream car from Kerridges in Needham, a chameleon green Tuscan2 4.0 57(2008)reg. I had been looking at it, whilst driving past, for a couple of months or so. Eventually, my wife said 'If you want it, why don't you buy it'? Well....... you don't hear that very often, so..... !

Of course, it is not new (that would be difficult), but with only one owner, FSH, and a verifiable 14,000 on the clock it is pretty darned close!

So, I pulled off the forecourt, having allowed the engine to rumble away for about ten minutes, ensuring oil temperature was above 50degC (after Oliver, Kerridge's salesman advised a good warm up) and headed back through Needham Market, sleepy Suffolk village. I only live about 4 miles away, so gently (very gently - OK :-) changed up into 2nd and headed west.

1st impressions 1.
Steering is quite heavy at sub-50mph speeds. Also the engine hunts and surges a bit and is not altogether happy below 2000rpm (but plus 2000rpm is something not to inflict upon the said sleepy Suffolk village, or it would be sleepy no more!).

Outside of Needham, the road is good quality and national limit (60mph), so slipped into 3rd gear and gently pressed the right pedal. 60mph was reached from 30mph in about 3 seconds, so I kept at that until the 50mph and then 40mph roundels appeared and then suitably slowed to keep legal. I was grinning by that time (ok, so I am easily pleased).

Arriving at home a few minutes later and reversed onto drive in front of garage - next door neighbour's head appeared over the garden gate (he later said to me 'I didn't want to appear nosey, but just had to see what was making that sound'! :-).

1st impressions 2.
Pretty good street cred (as if I should worry about that at my time of life).

Later that afternoon, having read through manual - again (first time was to make sure I did not seem completely TVR-green when I picked up the car. You know the kinda thing, 'where's the door handle, then'?; 'I pressed the start button and nothing happened'!; 'How do I stop the indicators from flashing in 'that' direction'? etc) I thought, ah it's time to put it in the garage (you know just how bad the weather has been!). Open door (got that one suss'd now), climb in, wiggle left knee underneath steering column by stretching left foot into the well to the left of the clutch pedal (gotta improve that manoevre!), start engine (Grin!). Having checked that I actually HAD opened the garage door, I very carefully put it in reverse (well, tried to, but it needed a quick slip into fourth and then into reverse) and slowly growled my way backwards.
Hurray, the car fitted into the garage just as I had carefully calculated, but unfortunately I have workshop shelving down the right side of the garage (looking out), so although the car fitted, I couldn't actually open the door (no, I don't mean that I hadn't got the hang of the twirly knob in the middle of the centre console, I mean that there was no room to open the door), so it was back out on the drive again.

The only solution was to order on a 24-hr delivery a garden shed, so that some of the shelving, the lawnmower, garden tools and barbecue now have a new home. Of course, that meant assembling the garden shed and to be honest, I am not as nimble as once I was. My next door neighbour - realising the importance of this particular operation - helped me to lift and put on the shed roof (all now done and felted, just needs a coat of fence treatment - tomorrow!).

So, now quite clearly I have the TVR bug. You know, the one that means everything takes second place to the needs of the car (A few days ago, another neighbour asked me - in front of my wife - how my mistress was? He got the 'Paddington Bear Stare' from my wife, which only improved slightly after he explained that he only meant the car!).

Next trip out was for about 250miles, mainly A-road and motorways. My wife seemed to be holding hard to the door and to the seat. I was only driving at legal max, but she said it was too fast and the reasoned explanation of 'this is lower than our family saloon, engine is noisier, added wind noise, firm suspension so it FEELS faster, did not go down well'. She just said 'the trees are going passed faster than in the other car. Clearly, it is hard to argue with that one.

1st impressions 3.
This is MUCH nicer to drive than reports on the Tuscan 1, but does need a very firm foot on the brake pedal at sub-70mph speeds. Roundabouts - due to the fairly long front end look a bit forbidding, but can be taken quite quickly in the dry and flicking through the gears is quite fun.

However, I did have cause to email the dealer with two complaints.
a/. It was raining for some of the time and I found the drops of water moving up the curves of the bonnet due to the wind quite distracting, and suggested that they could do something about those curves :-)
b/. I felt there was something wrong with the fuel gauge as the level went down when I put my right foot to the floor :-)

Extras.
1/. I had a trickle charger installed (can't think why, it has not been in the garage for long enough for the battery to run down). However, I do understand why it might..... Try standing in a darkened garage behind a Tuscan2 at night, having locked the doors and set the immobiliser/alarm. The light display from inside (immobiliser red led, green start/stop button flashing and the surround of the door-open knob flashing red on alternate sides) is enough to cause a nuclear power station to run and hide in terror!
2/. I have been reading up on car cleaning (detailing??, I think it is now called) and will let you know later how much dirt a foam lance lifts off, before I do the 'two-bucket-wash' with my merino wool mitt and then apply a coat of Blackfire carnuaba wax. If it works well, photos will follow - and the family saloon will get a similar treatment. Look I know we have a hosepipe ban, but I am using filtered rainwater (soft, no scummy white spots & residue - picky huh!?) from our water butt in the pressure washer.

I haven't driven the car this week, been at work and busy, but I have ordered another extra.

3/. A 250watt-240v oil tank heater from 'International Diesel Group Inc - www.engineheaters.co.uk This will allow me to shorten that warm up period and get out on the road quicker. I know there are other forums on this topic, but I will feed back later.

Just got back home and took off the cover.

1st impressions 4.
This car looks beautiful!! Grin!!!
The start of a long relationship between Tuscan2 and 'tvrnotrackdays'.



m4tti

697 posts

24 months

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tvrnotrackdays said:
18-May-2012
So, I pulled off the forecourt, having allowed the engine to rumble away for about ten minutes, ensuring oil temperature was above 50degC (after Oliver, Kerridge's salesman advised a good warm up) and headed back through Needham Market, sleepy Suffolk village. I only live about 4 miles away, so gently (very gently - OK :-) changed up into 2nd and headed west.
unless the engine in your tuscan has been radically changed from standard i wouldnt sit there and let it idle.... conventioal wisdom is to drive the car to increase the oil pressure and keep revs low.

Edited by m4tti on Friday 18th May 15:56


Oh yes.. nearly forgot.. enjoy!

Edited by m4tti on Friday 18th May 16:01


Edited by m4tti on Friday 18th May 16:02

Diablos-666

2,502 posts

47 months

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m4tti said:
unless the engine in your tuscan has been radically changed from standard i wouldnt sit their and let it idle.... conventioal wisdom is to drive the car to increase the oil pressure and keep revs low.
^^^^ what he said. Also, even though the oil heater is a good thing to have, remember the transmission oils will still be cold so allow plenty of time for those to heat up too.

1 last thing... Congratulations on your purchase, and nice write up.

nawarne

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129 months

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^^ Congrats!
What's been said. Driving is the best warm-up. The higher revs pump oil to the top of the engine quicker.
Ditto on warm-up for rest of drive train - plus tyres. Enjoy.
Nick

S6 ROR

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134 months

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Agree, i always drive straight off from cold, but keeping the revs down until warmed up.
Congratulations. the Grin will never go, in fact it gets bigger as time goes by, and you get use to the carthumbup
You will also find yourself out in the garage just standing there looking at the car. Its madness i know, but we all do it.
Once these cars get under your skin, they change your lifebiggrin
You will also find yourself spending much more time on forums, you will have trouble sleeping also. There is no cure i`m afraidhehe but enjoy the moment.
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ShiDevil

1,213 posts

43 months

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S6 ROR said:
Agree, i always drive straight off from cold, but keeping the revs down until warmed up.
Congratulations. the Grin will never go, in fact it gets bigger as time goes by, and you get use to the carthumbup
You will also find yourself out in the garage just standing there looking at the car. Its madness i know, but we all do it.
Once these cars get under your skin, they change your lifebiggrin
You will also find yourself spending much more time on forums, you will have trouble sleeping also. There is no cure i`m afraidhehe but enjoy the moment.
Oh dear, those are familiar symptoms :P

RedSpike66

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81 months

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Whilst that's a great write-up, think how much time you could have been out driving whilst writing it !!!! biggrin
Good Choice - welcome to the club - hope you continue to enjoy it !

PuffsBack

1,549 posts

94 months

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Good choice, she is gorgeous. I was admiring her while waiting for Stephen to do the insurance valuation on my Cerb. Guessing you are very close to me somewhere - I am in Great Finborough

Mattt

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87 months

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Congratulations - I also got mine from Oliver at Kerridges, and they were great before and after the sale.

As said above I'd drive straight off - the oil pressure at idle is low. The Engine Heater helps a bit, which Kerridges also fitted for me when it went in for some work.

so called

3,510 posts

78 months

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tvrnotrackdays said:
Next trip out was for about 250miles, mainly A-road and motorways. My wife seemed to be holding hard to the door and to the seat.
My Wife does exactly the same. I have to ask her to get her finger nails out of the leather smile
Congrats and enjoy.
Tony

tvrnotrackdays

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22-May2012. So, last Saturday pm drive to my daughter (other daughter - last week drive was to my youngest daughter in Oxford). 12 miles only. Observed the warmup recommendations. A bit frustrated behind 4X4 taking kids somewhere - other side of Onehouse. My wife was relaxing a bit, only gentle indentations left in the leather smile.
Found that I am getting used to the long-ish nose and that it seems to point forward when I am actually rounding a bend (reminds me of E-type, but not as pronounced). Anyway, as I say, my wife was relaxing a bit....
Then at junction onto Bury-Sudbury road, waited for an Audi TT to pass at about 60mph and then thought - what the heck! So, pulled out and turned left, once in second, floored it, (at that point the indentations in the leather increased) up into into third, floored it again. Now, there was only about 1/3rd mile before I turned off towards the free church, but in that time I had caught up with said TT and had to brake or miss my turn. woohoo
You will of course be aware that this has taken far longer to write than it took on the day. Bigger Grin! biggrin

@ALL - very many thanks for your advice re startup. On refelction I have seen that tickover oil pressure is low, approx 10-12psi. 2500rpm, pressure is 42-45psi. Hmmm. Definitely a gentle run required, through town on my way out to the open roads. Warmup to 60+DegC takes about 7-8 miles.

Question - Oh, what oil should I use?

@m4tti - thanks for reminder that gearbox and diff oil also needs to warmup. ?What oil is used in g/box&diff? Not planning to change it but it is good to know.
@nawarne - warm up of tyres - must ask my mate Lewis H about that. Well, not exactly(!) my mate, but we were at the same race track once :-)
@S6 ROR - Grin!!
@RedSpike66 - ;-(
@Puffsback - I am in Stowmarket. If you want to meet up sometime - please email me on paul@paulandgwen.co.uk. I am in Suffolk most weekends. I agree, it is a gorgeous car.
@Mattt - Hi Matt. You were at Kerridges when I did the deal, yes?
@so called - I am looking for some kid's shoes skuff coat in light grey, there are a couple of marks on the trim that need attention, not necessarily related to fingernails.

Edited by tvrnotrackdays on Tuesday 22 May 12:08

The Surveyor

1,902 posts

106 months

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Welcome to the club, the Tuscan 2 is indeed a lovely thing...

tvrnotrackdays said:
@Question - Oh, what oil should I use?
Find out what has been used at the last service and top-up with the same stuff. I use Mobile 1 motorsport in mine, always have done and the engine is still strong as an ox with over 48k miles on the clock...

tvrnotrackdays said:
I am looking for some kid's shoes skuff coat in light grey, there are a couple of marks on the trim that need attention, not necessarily related to fingernails.
If you have a 'Furniture Clinic' near you, I would recommend that they do any cosmetic repairs. They will mix the dye to suit and it'll give you a much better long-term result. They sell kits on ebay too but best take it to them for a perfect match.

Oh and enjoy thumbup

Paul


Mattt

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87 months

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Not me at Kerridges I'm afraid, I haven't been there personally in quite some time now (although the car has).

haircutmike

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73 months

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I suggest after a while change your name to TVRtrackdays and get over to Snetterton then you will appreciate what it is built for and it's capabilities!

Enjoy!

tvrnotrackdays

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Might take you up on that one!
I am also looking at a day at Car Limits probably in August. Get some hands on and one-on-one 'how to keep it out of the ditch' advice and training.

tvrnotrackdays

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21 posts

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Well. I took the plunge last week and had the Wolverine oil tank heater that I ordered last month from EngineHeaters fitted by Kerridges in Needham Market, Suffolk.

I mean, I have been busy, so it was sitting on the sideboard for a while, giving me the evil eye until I could make time to get to Kerridges.

As always, I am impressed by their service. A very friendly dealership who have been TVR specialists for more than 35 years. They are also Noble Dealers and MG Main Dealers. Fresh coffee too.

So, as I am currently working in London, I took the car in one Saturday and picked it up next saturday. They kept in touch during the fitting process (and also dealt with the door window microswitch problem and a couple of other minor niggles. Yep, as many have experienced, the windows can assume a life of their own. Now cured!).

The company that I bought the heater from had asked for photos during the fitting process, which Kerridges were pleased to provide and which can be found here Oil Tank Images.

The plug sits on a velcro pad, just inside the service bonnet. So should be easy to pop the bonnet, pull out the plug, plug it in and switch it on.

I am planning to carry out a time v temperature study as soon as practicable. I have a temperature sensor, so will pop it into the oil tank, switch the heater on and take temperature readings every minute until a suitable temperature is attained.
Then go out for a run for a while smile and check the temperatures every five minutes till 60degC is reached.

Finally, as a control I will do the same from cold, without the oil tank heater pre-heating.

When I have the results I will post them, just for the record wink

Loads more on this Topic 743777

griffdude

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This is pretty good too;

http://www.ridedrive.co.uk/


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