Untaxed but insured and still being driven
Discussion
I thought with the new automated system that it wasn't possible to have an insured but untaxed car (not SORN) without being fined.
Person in my office seems to have one. The DVLA is showing 'unlicensed' with the tax liability as 1/4/12. Its been driven in every day for the last month and askmid is showing as insured.
Person in my office seems to have one. The DVLA is showing 'unlicensed' with the tax liability as 1/4/12. Its been driven in every day for the last month and askmid is showing as insured.
otolith said:
But quite apart from whether it is insured or not, if it isn't taxed or SORN they will eventually get fined.
So you would think. They park it off road at work and I imagine have a rural commute so I guess they think the chances of being caught are low.
I've reported it. Wonder how long it will take the DVLA to do something.
otolith said:
Since the introduction of continuous registration, they don't need to be caught using it, they will get fined if they don't tax it or SORN it even if it never leaves their driveway.
Thought so but it's been expired for over two months and they are still driving it. Guess the fine hasn't reached them yet.trickywoo said:
So you would think.
They park it off road at work and I imagine have a rural commute so I guess they think the chances of being caught are low.
I've reported it. Wonder how long it will take the DVLA to do something.
I'd say forever and a day . DVLA vans need to find it on road to clamp. I've reported cars locally to be asked for times that vehicle is around. They park it off road at work and I imagine have a rural commute so I guess they think the chances of being caught are low.
I've reported it. Wonder how long it will take the DVLA to do something.
KevinA3DSG32 said:
Of course you can have a car that is insured but not taxed. The offence is to have a car that is taxed but not insured.
Not quite. The offence is keeping a car without insurance, with a statutory defence if it's been declared off the road. According to how the law is written, you can quite legally have a car that's taxed but not insured provided you've notified DVLA that it's being kept off road. Keeping tax on a car that's off road would be a waste of money in most cases (there are a few exceptions) but wasting money ain't illegal
The fact that the DVLA systems might have trouble coping with such a situation is technically their problem, not yours, because they have no power to vary the law for their convenience. You might find yourself having to argue the point in court though because, afaik, no-one else has yet
dingg said:
hope you're proud of yourself
I am yes, thanks.Bit of background which I didn't add before was that they had a badly worn tyre (steel banding clearly visable over most of the outer edge), for who knows how long. I pointed it out and even suggested a good mobile fitter at less than £50 a corner for branded tyres. They didn't do anything about it for weeks.
For further clarification the tax displayed in the car shows 03/12. The DVLA website says date of liability 01/04/12, vehicle status unlicensed.
Hope none of you calling me a grass live any where near me
It's not a fine, the registered keeper will get an automatic £80 penalty some time during the second month after the tax expires.
Plenty of people complain about getting them after SORNing vehicles when the DVLA say they didn't receive the SORN notification, so the system does work.
So the person in question should have had a penalty notice during May. Perhaps, as someone else suggested, the vehicle isn't registered at their address?
Plenty of people complain about getting them after SORNing vehicles when the DVLA say they didn't receive the SORN notification, so the system does work.
So the person in question should have had a penalty notice during May. Perhaps, as someone else suggested, the vehicle isn't registered at their address?
My tax ran out a week ago on the same day as the MOT. I tried to tax it online but they wouldn't let me due to the MOT. It seems the police have started doing checks by the roadside from last night. Sods Law states that I will get checked going to the MOT today. I hope they are understanding!
Just to add: No, I haven't driven it since everything ran out!
Just to add: No, I haven't driven it since everything ran out!
BliarOut said:
No-one likes a grass 
If someone stole a TV from your house would you be happy if the neighbours watched them load it up and did nothing?Its people like you and he two other cocks above that mess the country up not me.
The nobber with no tax has history with driving on a highly illegal tyre which I gave them the benefit of the doubt on hence reporting them for the tax.
lankybob said:
My tax ran out a week ago on the same day as the MOT. I tried to tax it online but they wouldn't let me due to the MOT. It seems the police have started doing checks by the roadside from last night. Sods Law states that I will get checked going to the MOT today. I hope they are understanding!
It's not a question of them being 'understanding' - you are perfectly entitled to drive a vehicle without tax or MOT to (and from) a pre-arranged MOT test. Note that you must have insurance and the exemption won't cover you for driving an unroadworthy vehicle (if any faults exist).Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff