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AndyClockwise

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633 posts

48 months

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2158455/On...

Not sure why there is this sudden concern and outrage about blocking online pornography; but nothing like a bit of mass hysteria to sell papers.

They appear to have shot themselves in the foot as the smaller story at the bottom of the article shows that blocking online porn will not prevent perverts in chatrooms such as Haboo Hotel.


Jamie VTS

708 posts

33 months

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Total hypocrisy! What about all of the half naked women appearing in their paper?! Surely this is teaching young girls that they need to diet/tan/dress like a we to be accepted?

Edited by Jamie VTS on Wednesday 13th June 11:21

Norfolkit

936 posts

76 months

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Jamie VTS said:
Total hypocrisy! What about all of the half naked women appearing in their paper?! Surely this is teaching young girls that they need to diet/tan/dress like a we to be accepted?

Edited by Jamie VTS on Wednesday 13th June 11:21
They didn't seem to mind publishing pictures of Madonna flashing her norks yesterday (technically it was a nork)

dickymint

12,134 posts

144 months

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It's all about getting us prepared for total internet censorship.

Happy82

6,343 posts

55 months

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The liberal types have already ruined driving, drinking and eating for us, I guess porn is the last target?
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12gauge

1,274 posts

60 months

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Children under 18 are their parents or guardians responsibility. No one else.

Not ISPs, not website owners, not the govt, not the police.

Its sickening this socialist nanny state tripe is coming from a supposedly at least half conservative govt.

Negative Creep

12,999 posts

113 months

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Norfolkit said:
Jamie VTS said:
Total hypocrisy! What about all of the half naked women appearing in their paper?! Surely this is teaching young girls that they need to diet/tan/dress like a we to be accepted?

Edited by Jamie VTS on Wednesday 13th June 11:21
They didn't seem to mind publishing pictures of Madonna flashing her norks yesterday (technically it was a nork)
A quick scan down the right hand side of that page shows 14 pictures of women in bikinis or skimpy clothing. Have a look at the comments section - even their readers recognise the staggering hypocrisy and scaremongering going on

Jamie VTS

708 posts

33 months

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Negative Creep said:
A quick scan down the right hand side of that page shows 14 pictures of women in bikinis or skimpy clothing. Have a look at the comments section - even their readers recognise the staggering hypocrisy and scaremongering going on
It is madness!

obob

4,193 posts

80 months

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Happy82 said:
The liberal types have already ruined driving, drinking and eating for us, I guess porn is the last target?
No they are not liberal types at all, exactly the opposite.

muffinmenace

787 posts

74 months

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I'd like to know the demographic of the children performing acts at these young ages, heaven the thought of holding people responsible. The results of poor parenting can't be fixed with censorship.

Hugo a Gogo

17,912 posts

119 months

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Jamie VTS said:
Total hypocrisy! What about all of the half naked women appearing in their paper?! Surely this is teaching young girls that they need to diet/tan/dress like a we to be accepted?

Edited by Jamie VTS on Wednesday 13th June 11:21
erm, bikinis etc aren't anything like hardcore porn

kids see people in bikinis all the time on holiday

they don't see gang-bangs

Jamie VTS

708 posts

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Hugo a Gogo said:
erm, bikinis etc aren't anything like hardcore porn

kids see people in bikinis all the time on holiday

they don't see gang-bangs
Okay fair point, but how would you justify the constant riddiculing of women in newspapers "look at so and so's fat tummy" etc..?

Porn sites are for adults, I dont think anyone is saying they are not but blaming porn for sex offences is lunacy. I watch porn and havent raped any children!

Hugo a Gogo

17,912 posts

119 months

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I don't try to justify anything biggrin

I must admit though I am slightly worried by the prevalence of so much hardcore porn nowadays, and how it may affect some people who watch it, especially young people

I really don't want my kids to watch the slightly-harder-than-average porn film and think that's what they should be doing, even when they are older

what the answer is, I don't know

AshVX220

2,122 posts

76 months

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Hugo a Gogo said:
I don't try to justify anything biggrin

I must admit though I am slightly worried by the prevalence of so much hardcore porn nowadays, and how it may affect some people who watch it, especially young people

I really don't want my kids to watch the slightly-harder-than-average porn film and think that's what they should be doing, even when they are older

what the answer is, I don't know
Promoting personal responsability for parents raising kids would be good start, but then again, not just for this "problem" but for the majority of the social issues this country faces.

These days, it's always somebody elses fault.

Not having a dig Hugo a Gogo, just picking up your last statement.

Happy82

6,343 posts

55 months

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what the answer is, I don't know
Perhaps if we made sex less of a taboo it'd help, at secondary school I remember the teacher giggling away during the single half hour lesson we had about sex and contraception. Either that or show a real unedited 3rd degree tear child birth to 11 year old girls and they'll be terrified of sex for fear of getting pregnant hehe

superkartracer

7,321 posts

108 months

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It would be simpler and more effecient to ban porn alltogether - who needs it apart inadequate perverts?
- George, Brighton, 13/6/2012 13:33

Odie

4,187 posts

68 months

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I think they need to sort their priorities out, deal with the adults who are grooming and stalking children online first.

Im sure their is more harm being done by adults who seek to abuse children than children being curious and looking at pictures.

I think the government needs to get its head out of its ass and needs to be more aware of issues like haboo hotel, the various forums with hidden areas for illegal sexual discussion, their has been a court order for the blocking of TPB in the UK so has the same happened for the various cover websites/forums that are actively encouraging the abuse of children.

Edited by Odie on Wednesday 13th June 14:58

rohrl

5,350 posts

31 months

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obob said:
Happy82 said:
The liberal types have already ruined driving, drinking and eating for us, I guess porn is the last target?
No they are not liberal types at all, exactly the opposite.
Quite. Censoring things is by its nature illiberal.

AndyClockwise

Original Poster:

633 posts

48 months

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12gauge said:
Children under 18 are their parents or guardians responsibility. No one else.

Not ISPs, not website owners, not the govt, not the police.

Its sickening this socialist nanny state tripe is coming from a supposedly at least half conservative govt.
It is another case of the abdication of responsibility by parents - I don't want my children to see something naughty on the Internet so I'll demand that my ISP blocks it.

This proposed legislation would not prevent what (allegedly) happened with Haboo Hotel, nor will it prevent children swapping USB memory sticks full of porn in the playground (or sharing by some other methods)

If any dodgy content is viewed by children once the parents have "opted out" then I can imagine that some parents will then sue the ISP

martin84

5,366 posts

39 months

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12gauge said:
Children under 18 are their parents or guardians responsibility. No one else.

Not ISPs, not website owners, not the govt, not the police.

Its sickening this socialist nanny state tripe is coming from a supposedly at least half conservative govt.
So you're finally catching on to the fact the Conservative Party is no longer Conservative under the control of CMD? When in opposition they campaigned for civil liberties against things like this, now they want to do the same as Labour would because parents want it. Caught between rock and hard place really, Cameron had this big thing about engaging the mumsnet lot and this is what happens.

The fact is millions of parents actually do want a socialist Government which restricts the internet.
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