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JulesV

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1,663 posts

93 months

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Late last year I finally bought my first Porsche, a 2002 996 C2, a one owner 23,000 mile car with full Porsche history.

It is due a service in August and would welcome a bit of advice as to the best approach. Since I have owned the car I have had a few minor jobs carried out by these guys:

www.precisionporsche.co.uk

They have been very helpful and efficient and are local to me. Thing is, I have an eye on future resale values and I am very fussy with my cars. I hope to be able to upgrade the car in 18 months or so. Should I therefore continue to have the servicing carried out by an OPC? I live mid-way between OPC Mid Sussex and Tonbridge and would be interested to hear any feedback on both.

Or should I have the service done by Precision and to hell with the full Porsche history?

mollytherocker

6,894 posts

78 months

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OPC history will make nil difference on a 2002 car. A good indy is probably better in many ways.

MTR

Callughan

5,302 posts

61 months

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If selling soon you might as well keep it all opc?

tr7v8

4,006 posts

97 months

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The guys at Tonbridge are pretty good, they'll also discount on labour & parts, especially if you're a TIPEC member like me. No experience of Mid Sussex but I know a couple of their guys attend the TIPEC SE meet. Normally with something shiny & new off the forecourt!

rhkumar

162 posts

25 months

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I personally agree with MTR but given the price reduction of servicing 996s I would go to an OPC given you want to sell in the next couple of years. Many prospective buyers would probably want a full service history but I would personally want a good indie.

Out of the OPCs. I've only heard good things about mid Sussex
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williaa68

514 posts

35 months

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Tonbridge are good - they looked after my 997 C4S. However, I would take it to Cliff at Project Nine in marden if that isnt too far away - he is very good and, unless Tonbridge do you a very good deal, much cheaper.

Diesel130

1,544 posts

81 months

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Blimey... 23,000 miles in 10 years!

I agree with MTR... a good porsche specialist is as good as an OPC on a car of that age. I suppose you could always get the "stamp" service done via your OPC, but still take it to the indi for anything that was flagged up as needing attention by the OPC, but I doubt a full OPC history beyond 10 years will add value to what will be a 13-14 year old car when you come to sell it.

Other considerations are... has it really had servicing to the correct schedule over the 10 years, to be worth preserving, or has that already been skimped (in which case keeping OPC is a waste). At only 2 and a bit thousand miles between services, you should have 10 stamps at no more than 12 month intervals and they should have been "minor", "annual check", "major", "annual check", "minor", "annual check" etc... I guess it won't have had any spark plugs done or the polyrib belt as you haven't reached the mileage for those yet (as an aside, I hate to think what 10 year old spark plugs will look like on a car with such low mileage - presumably lots of short journeys), but it should have had brake fluids changed at the required interval (each 2 years IIRC). I guess, also, that tyres will have been replaced on age, rather than wearing out.

Finally, what mileage are you expecting to put on it. The downside of very low mileage cars (I know, I had a 5 year old Fiat Coupe 20v turbo with 9K on it), is that doing a normal mileage will decrease the value disproportionately.

Just my 2p...

uktrailmonster

4,406 posts

69 months

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I don't know Precision Porsche personally, but I would go Porsche specialist over OPC, particularly on an older car. I doubt it would make a blind bit of difference to resale value at that age either. My car is going to Fearnsport rather than Towcester OPC next door. I just think the top specialists generally do a better job than OPC and are usually cheaper.

JulesV

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1,663 posts

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Diesel130 said:
Blimey... 23,000 miles in 10 years!

I agree with MTR... a good porsche specialist is as good as an OPC on a car of that age. I suppose you could always get the "stamp" service done via your OPC, but still take it to the indi for anything that was flagged up as needing attention by the OPC, but I doubt a full OPC history beyond 10 years will add value to what will be a 13-14 year old car when you come to sell it.

Other considerations are... has it really had servicing to the correct schedule over the 10 years, to be worth preserving, or has that already been skimped (in which case keeping OPC is a waste). At only 2 and a bit thousand miles between services, you should have 10 stamps at no more than 12 month intervals and they should have been "minor", "annual check", "major", "annual check", "minor", "annual check" etc... I guess it won't have had any spark plugs done or the polyrib belt as you haven't reached the mileage for those yet (as an aside, I hate to think what 10 year old spark plugs will look like on a car with such low mileage - presumably lots of short journeys), but it should have had brake fluids changed at the required interval (each 2 years IIRC). I guess, also, that tyres will have been replaced on age, rather than wearing out.

Finally, what mileage are you expecting to put on it. The downside of very low mileage cars (I know, I had a 5 year old Fiat Coupe 20v turbo with 9K on it), is that doing a normal mileage will decrease the value disproportionately.

Just my 2p...
I have 9 service stamps, all East London OPC in the service book as well as stamps for brake fluid changes every two years. I have done 9000 miles in the car since November, tyres have recently been replaced all round.

My logic in buying a low mileage car is that if I do 12 or 13,000 miles a year for a couple of years, I still have a comparatively low mileage car to sell and shouldn't lose too much in terms of depreciation.

cmoose

18,596 posts

98 months

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I think enthusiasts will be happy with or even prefer to see a good specialist rather than an OPC in the book. I know I would generally expect a good specialist to look after the car better.

However, your average punter will prefer an OPC in the the book. And even on something like a 2002 911, I think most buyers are punters not enthusiasts. So if resale is the major worry, I'd say OPC.

EVOeng

803 posts

39 months

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tr7v8 said:
The guys at Tonbridge are pretty good, they'll also discount on labour & parts, especially if you're a TIPEC member like me. No experience of Mid Sussex but I know a couple of their guys attend the TIPEC SE meet. Normally with something shiny & new off the forecourt!
+1
For me Tonbridge OPC were cheaper than going to a specialist and IMO it would be worth keeping the 'Full Porsche Service History' for the sake of a year or so.
If you were going to keep the car for a few years then it may be worth using a good specialist like Sam at Precision.


giltranator

186 posts

57 months

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I think i would stick with the OPC service history. They have cut their prices recently as well so they are actually cheaper than most specialists

andye30m3

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123 months

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I'm going to be a very similar situation come december. 25k mile 996 gt3 with full OPC history.

I was going to use either OPC Tonbridge (heard good things from a friend who's in the trade) or Paragon.

JulesV

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1,663 posts

93 months

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Lots of useful advice, thank you. Am I to understand that OPCs now offer reduced servicing prices for older cars?

raceboy

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JulesV said:
Lots of useful advice, thank you. Am I to understand that OPCs now offer reduced servicing prices for older cars?
Yes, recently took advantage of this on a 986.

http://www.porschehost.com/servicepricing911996.as...

mohitos

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68 months

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Those service charges seem really reasonable.
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