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Sashak87

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59 posts

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Hi People,

Bought my first M3 this weekend, put a deposit down on an immaculate M3 SMG Individual Cabrio in Purple with Champagne leather.

I was after a manual at first but have to admit I love the SMG gearbox. My question is, how reliable are they?

The car is a 2004 on 87k and has been exceptionally maintained. I'm buying it from James Paul in Surrey who have a great reputation and check things very thoroughly pre-sale so I'm happy with the car.

I guess my question is what are the failure rates on the pumps? And what cost to fix? Obv you only ever hear -ves on forums but are they like Audi RS6 gearboxes which are nearly guaranteed to go? Or is it only a handful?

Thanks

Sash

Yanto

470 posts

88 months

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Congratulations....enjoy the new car!

New pump fitted at BMW will be ~1800 GBP.

Mine went at 64K miles, replaced under warranty.

nw28840

692 posts

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I had an M3 convertible for 4 years, 2003 car (that i bought in 2005) with SMG gearbox.

I had no issues with the car in the 4 years aside from a convertible roof issue -which was resolved under warranty smile

SMG gearbox took a little getting used to , but i loved it !


Sashak87

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64k? Wow! Is that 'normal'?

Yanto

470 posts

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Sashak87 said:
64k? Wow! Is that 'normal'?
Doubtful, just luck of the draw..

Mate also had his go on his CSL but I think his mileage was in the 70's...

But others have higher mileage with no problem.

Personally, I still think the trade off is worth it - am a fan of SMG....others will disagree....its just personal choice.

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Slurms

1,143 posts

84 months

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Yeah pump failures can happen, tends to be more common on higher mileages but some cars have done 100k+ on the original pumps..

goldblum

9,127 posts

47 months

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Sashak87 said:
are they like Audi RS6 gearboxes which are nearly guaranteed to go?


Sash
Mine didn't,my friends didn't,and the only person I know it happened to had his Audi up at 550 bhp and 600lb/ft.

mrmr96

13,456 posts

84 months

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Looks nice:













Maybe a bit expensive, but that depends on the spec/condition/service history.
http://www.jamespaul.co.uk/bmw-m3-smg-convertible-...
Not jealous... obviously... smile

Sashak87

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Yeah it's about £2k more than I wanted to spend, but has near new tyres (all conti's), brakes are recent, fresh service (inc valve clearances) and fresh MOT so should need nothing doing. Looked at a fair few that morning and that was by far the best to drive even though others all around 60k and Manual Coupes.

Just thought about the SMG box now and whether I should find a different one for the price but if most are good then that hopefully should be too.

mrmr96

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I was thinking the same thing, as it felt more like a £10-11k car. But if it's got new tyres, brakes and a recent service then it doesn't seem like a bad deal really.

Sashak87

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goldblum said:
Mine didn't,my friends didn't,and the only person I know it happened to had his Audi up at 550 bhp and 600lb/ft.
Ok, that was a stupid point and exaggerated. When I was researching/considering one it was something that seemed more common than I would be comfortable with.

goldblum

9,127 posts

47 months

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Yes tune the RS6 and the gearboxes can suffer..Enjoy your BM. smile

MattOz

3,249 posts

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Mora with champagne is a cracking combination for a convertible. That drivers seat is pretty tired mind you. Would benefit from a decent clean and some colour from liquid leather. Enjoy the new car!

Stingercut

217 posts

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Love mine to bits. I'm sure you will too, superb cars they are.

MMT

472 posts

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I know I've put this in a couple of threads now but have you had the chassis checked for cracks where the diff carrier is mounted to the floor pan? It very often isn't picked up by MOT or routine service checks by BMW. My car has just been repaired and strengthened.

BalhamBadger

1,045 posts

53 months

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Lovely car, great colour combo and contrast between the exterior and interior.

mcelliott

2,241 posts

61 months

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As others have mentioned, nice tidy car. Bet you are going to have lots of fun in the summer with this one. I'm taking mine off to the Alps in a couple of weeks - can't wait! Oh yeah also, remember these cars aren't st your pants quick, so sports button must be pressed firmly in at all times!
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