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SirMark
Original Poster
498 posts
58 months
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Gulzar
605 posts
55 months
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Jesus christ but would love to have seen from a standing start!
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SonnyM
2,679 posts
62 months
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Gulzar said: Jesus christ but would love to have seen from a standing start! Would love to see it if the Veyron guy was actually trying. You can clearly see he was Subday driving with his favourite pop song and the Nissan was just a bad smell he wanted to get rid off so he let him go. 
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raptor600
1,356 posts
15 months
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That GTR is faaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr from stock though.
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kbf1981
1,561 posts
69 months
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Rather have the Veyron by a country mile. It's engine won't blow up (unlike a GTR tuned to 1000hp) and could do that 100 times a day. Either way, it's still the more desirable car.
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raptor600
1,356 posts
15 months
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kbf1981 said: Rather have the Veyron by a country mile. It's engine won't blow up (unlike a GTR tuned to 1000hp) and could do that 100 times a day. Either way, it's still the more desirable car. Hardly a surprise anyone would prefer a £1m Veyron to a £75k GTR...but that's not really the point is it?
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franki68
1,423 posts
90 months
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I think the Nissan would need to be around 1200-1500 bhp to be that much faster.
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TonyHetherington
30,894 posts
119 months
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It always surprises me the "tuned versus standard" comparisons.
Oh, we're tuning? Let's tune the Veyron then.
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70proof
3,092 posts
24 months
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TonyHetherington said: Oh, we're tuning? Let's tune the Veyron then. you can't significantly, it would overheat!
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Pentoman
4,132 posts
132 months
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70proof said: you can't significantly, it would overheat! Tune the cooling system as well. Take it to 'stage 1'. With 'NOS'. And 'headers'.
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TonyHetherington
30,894 posts
119 months
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70proof said: TonyHetherington said: Oh, we're tuning? Let's tune the Veyron then. you can't significantly, it would overheat! You can  nearly 1200bhp in the supersport, and that was new turbos and a larger intercooler. Now don't forget that's designed to run in all heats of the world (middle-east, mainly), doing hundreds of full bore launches for their mates. And the cars do do that. Imagine if they didn't care too much about the eternal reliability.
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s99ane
959 posts
103 months
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franki68 said: I think the Nissan would need to be around 1200-1500 bhp to be that much faster. I think weight may have a lot to do with this too. At an uneducated guess the Veyron is quite a bit heavier so the GTR need only be 750+ bhp
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70proof
3,092 posts
24 months
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TonyHetherington said: 70proof said: TonyHetherington said: Oh, we're tuning? Let's tune the Veyron then. you can't significantly, it would overheat! You can nearly 1200bhp in the supersport, and that was new turbos and a larger intercooler. Now don't forget that's designed to run in all heats of the world (middle-east, mainly), doing hundreds of full bore launches for their mates. And the cars do do that. Imagine if they didn't care too much about the eternal reliability. the veyron's launch was delayed almost entirely due to overheating problems..... and they finally sorted it with i think 16 radiators.....yes VW obsessed over reliabilty.. agree there... think supersport is upper limits of where you can push, and a 20% hike is not bad...
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TonyHetherington
30,894 posts
119 months
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Over heating (and therefore cooling) was a huge part of it - you're absolutely right, but it was to get that ultra reliability for which it is famed (if you see what I mean). It was a huge number of radiators  I spent the day a few weeks ago playing in a Veyron with an MP4-12C (I realise how ludicrous that statement sounds, but honest I did ) - anyway, at one point we'd been doing launches in the Veyron and we were stood around at the front of the car - it was actually sucking stuff towards it, such was the power of the fans to drive air through the radiators My point, though, is that we're not comparing similar. Not just tuned vs not-tuned, but every part of it.
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Mr Noble
6,164 posts
102 months
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I think if it was my £1m Veyron and it was soaking wet and I was on a drag strip - I'd have let the GT-R win too! 
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Tonsko
2,549 posts
84 months
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To my un-educated eye, that looks like a NOS boost.
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Dblue
1,542 posts
69 months
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GTRs are running 950bhp in high mileage daily drivers without any reliability issues both here and the states. 1000hp would be just as reliable I suspect. They are proving to be unbreakable. The early scare stories about failures seem to be so much internet hot air.
Even a 1200ghp "project" car like the AMS one's in the states would cost a tiny fraction of the cost of the Bugatti. You could buy a £30k 2009 GTR and spend less than the cost of replacemnt tyres for a Veyron (c.£20k) and get 800 bhp and sub 11s Quarter mile times.
There's loads more to a great drivers car than drag racing but its just impossible to make a value for money case against the Nissan.
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TonyHetherington
30,894 posts
119 months
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Blimey - I didn't realise it was so cheap to tune them to that sort of power 
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WCZ
1,464 posts
63 months
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Mr Noble said: I think if it was my £1m Veyron and it was soaking wet and I was on a drag strip - I'd have let the GT-R win too! +1 I think he backed off a little and was scared, which is understandable...
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BelfastBoy
524 posts
29 months
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Dblue said: GTRs are running 950bhp in high mileage daily drivers without any reliability issues both here and the states. 1000hp would be just as reliable I suspect. They are proving to be unbreakable. The early scare stories about failures seem to be so much internet hot air.
Even a 1200ghp "project" car like the AMS one's in the states would cost a tiny fraction of the cost of the Bugatti. You could buy a £30k 2009 GTR and spend less than the cost of replacemnt tyres for a Veyron (c.£20k) and get 800 bhp and sub 11s Quarter mile times.
There's loads more to a great drivers car than drag racing but its just impossible to make a value for money case against the Nissan. If people have tuned 950bhp GTRs as daily drivers, what do they have as fun weekend vehicles, Top Fuel dragsters, the Thrust 2 SSC?! Totally agree that the GTR is an awesome car. I know it's total marmite, especially on PH forums, but for me even in standard second hand form it's pretty much the best value performance car there is.
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