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Gulzar said:
Jesus christ but would love to have seen from a standing start!
Would love to see it if the Veyron guy was actually trying. You can clearly see he was Subday driving with his favourite pop song and the Nissan was just a bad smell he wanted to get rid off so he let him go. 
kbf1981 said:
Rather have the Veyron by a country mile. It's engine won't blow up (unlike a GTR tuned to 1000hp) and could do that 100 times a day. Either way, it's still the more desirable car.
Hardly a surprise anyone would prefer a £1m Veyron to a £75k GTR...but that's not really the point is it?70proof said:
TonyHetherington said:
Oh, we're tuning? Let's tune the Veyron then.
you can't significantly, it would overheat!
nearly 1200bhp in the supersport, and that was new turbos and a larger intercooler. Now don't forget that's designed to run in all heats of the world (middle-east, mainly), doing hundreds of full bore launches for their mates. And the cars do do that.Imagine if they didn't care too much about the eternal reliability.
TonyHetherington said:
70proof said:
TonyHetherington said:
Oh, we're tuning? Let's tune the Veyron then.
you can't significantly, it would overheat! nearly 1200bhp in the supersport, and that was new turbos and a larger intercooler. Now don't forget that's designed to run in all heats of the world (middle-east, mainly), doing hundreds of full bore launches for their mates. And the cars do do that.Imagine if they didn't care too much about the eternal reliability.
Over heating (and therefore cooling) was a huge part of it - you're absolutely right, but it was to get that ultra reliability for which it is famed (if you see what I mean). It was a huge number of radiators 
I spent the day a few weeks ago playing in a Veyron with an MP4-12C (I realise how ludicrous that statement sounds, but honest I did ) - anyway, at one point we'd been doing launches in the Veyron and we were stood around at the front of the car - it was actually sucking stuff towards it, such was the power of the fans to drive air through the radiators
My point, though, is that we're not comparing similar. Not just tuned vs not-tuned, but every part of it.
I spent the day a few weeks ago playing in a Veyron with an MP4-12C (I realise how ludicrous that statement sounds, but honest I did ) - anyway, at one point we'd been doing launches in the Veyron and we were stood around at the front of the car - it was actually sucking stuff towards it, such was the power of the fans to drive air through the radiators My point, though, is that we're not comparing similar. Not just tuned vs not-tuned, but every part of it.
GTRs are running 950bhp in high mileage daily drivers without any reliability issues both here and the states. 1000hp would be just as reliable I suspect. They are proving to be unbreakable. The early scare stories about failures seem to be so much internet hot air.
Even a 1200ghp "project" car like the AMS one's in the states would cost a tiny fraction of the cost of the Bugatti. You could buy a £30k 2009 GTR and spend less than the cost of replacemnt tyres for a Veyron (c.£20k) and get 800 bhp and sub 11s Quarter mile times.
There's loads more to a great drivers car than drag racing but its just impossible to make a value for money case against the Nissan.
Even a 1200ghp "project" car like the AMS one's in the states would cost a tiny fraction of the cost of the Bugatti. You could buy a £30k 2009 GTR and spend less than the cost of replacemnt tyres for a Veyron (c.£20k) and get 800 bhp and sub 11s Quarter mile times.
There's loads more to a great drivers car than drag racing but its just impossible to make a value for money case against the Nissan.
Dblue said:
GTRs are running 950bhp in high mileage daily drivers without any reliability issues both here and the states. 1000hp would be just as reliable I suspect. They are proving to be unbreakable. The early scare stories about failures seem to be so much internet hot air.
Even a 1200ghp "project" car like the AMS one's in the states would cost a tiny fraction of the cost of the Bugatti. You could buy a £30k 2009 GTR and spend less than the cost of replacemnt tyres for a Veyron (c.£20k) and get 800 bhp and sub 11s Quarter mile times.
There's loads more to a great drivers car than drag racing but its just impossible to make a value for money case against the Nissan.
If people have tuned 950bhp GTRs as daily drivers, what do they have as fun weekend vehicles, Top Fuel dragsters, the Thrust 2 SSC?!Even a 1200ghp "project" car like the AMS one's in the states would cost a tiny fraction of the cost of the Bugatti. You could buy a £30k 2009 GTR and spend less than the cost of replacemnt tyres for a Veyron (c.£20k) and get 800 bhp and sub 11s Quarter mile times.
There's loads more to a great drivers car than drag racing but its just impossible to make a value for money case against the Nissan.
Totally agree that the GTR is an awesome car. I know it's total marmite, especially on PH forums, but for me even in standard second hand form it's pretty much the best value performance car there is.
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