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jonah35

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1,546 posts

41 months

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How reliable would one be if bought with 60k on.

How much are services, discs, tyres etc

Plan on doing 25k miles per year and spending £10k on one

iSore

913 posts

28 months

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How long is a piece of string?

They're not a bad old thing but you may want to avoid main dealers and take it to a good specialist. Oil and filter changes are the key to long engine and turbo life so ignore the service schedule and have an oil and filter change every 8-10'000 with a proper fully synthetic. At 60'000 miles, it may not be a bad plan to have the gearbox oil changed as well. The way I run cars, I do oil and filter every 7000 miles, coolant once a year and things like pads etc when the warning light comes on.

Discs and pads are much cheaper aftermarket and you'll still be using decent quality stuff. They are a bit of a gamble, but they're certainly a lot of car for 10 grand.

bennyboydurham

1,399 posts

58 months

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iSore said:
How long is a piece of string?

They're not a bad old thing but you may want to avoid main dealers and take it to a good specialist. Oil and filter changes are the key to long engine and turbo life so ignore the service schedule and have an oil and filter change every 8-10'000 with a proper fully synthetic. At 60'000 miles, it may not be a bad plan to have the gearbox oil changed as well. The way I run cars, I do oil and filter every 7000 miles, coolant once a year and things like pads etc when the warning light comes on.

Discs and pads are much cheaper aftermarket and you'll still be using decent quality stuff. They are a bit of a gamble, but they're certainly a lot of car for 10 grand.
Good advice. I have a 2005 730d with 90k miles now and it's been fine. Parts are certainly no more pricey than any other make and they stand up to abuse well so of you come across a shoddy one you know it's been really hammered. Overdo it on the servicing side and use only OEM parts from somewhere like Eurocarparts. They're exactly the same as you get from a stealer except they don't come in a box with a BMW sticker! Also the advice to find a good indy is spot on. You don't want to be in the hands of a stealer with a 7 Series as to them you're like an ATM walking in the door.

Overall a huge amount of car for the money and if you find a sweet one you'll be laughing. 40mpg all day long, smooth 6cyl derv, no run flats. JDI!

jonah35

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1,546 posts

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Thanks chaps. Its that or lease a new c class coupe amg sport for £298 pm hassle free. Trying to work out which is cheaper.

The merc will have warranty and more mpg and no depreciation but obviously the regular monthly cost.

mattwatson

28 posts

29 months

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40mpg all daylong!? Really? whats a 200mile motorway run likely to achieve?
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theboss

1,748 posts

103 months

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40mpg all day long? Mine giveses 33-34 all day long but 40 would be a struggle. Thinking of parting with mine which is '56 730d Sport with 60k - is £10k the going rate???

iSore

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The petrol 730i used to do 30 mpg without too much hassle, so I'd be expecting 40 to be achieveable. It's too big and heavy to be able to average 40 though.

With regards to leasing, I'm sure there are some good deals on the current 730d.

mrmr96

13,581 posts

88 months

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matttson said:
40mpg all daylong!? Really? whats a 200mile motorway run likely to achieve?
I've been running a 2006 730d for about 6 months. My best tank has been 44.5mpg over 243 miles (mway to the lakes) and the worst was 29mpg over 204 miles (more town driving). Overall average is 37.8mpg over 14k miles. These are worked out using the odometer, brimming the tank and a calculator (not the computer). The computer has been about 0.5 to 1mpg out on each tank (it's been slightly pessimistic vs. reality).

The 3.0 straight 6 turbo diesel engine is the same of as in the 330d and 530d's of course, and therefore has the same swirl flap/egr valve/vortex type crank breather jobs as in those cars, but a little preventative maintenance should see you right on those things. Also means that the service items are a similar cost to on those cars, since it's the same engine. Some stuff is different though, for example the 730d has two pollen filters, but the 330d only has one. There's probably other stuff, but the engines themselves are the same. Brakes and tyres and stuff like that will be more on the bigger car, but using an indy rather than a main dealer will reduce the cost to something I consider to be very reasonable for the type of car.

PS - I think you'll be lucky to find a 60k example in decent nick for £10k. Either you'll need to accept more miles (not an issue on these cars IMO) or you'll need to increase your budget.

PPS - I'm enjoying mine - it's a great place to cover motorway miles.

Edited by mrmr96 on Friday 29th June 15:45

jonah35

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most i've viewed have shown an average of 36-39mpg on their trip computers

yeah 730d's are good on lease but nearly £500 pm with nothing to show for it is too much imho. £300 pm inc vat for a c class coupe that will do 55mpg is better value in my opinion.

obviously the 730d is a better car but hey ho

jonah35

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mrmr96 said:
I've been running a 2006 730d for about 6 months. My best tank has been 44.5mpg over 243 miles (mway to the lakes) and the worst was 29mpg over 204 miles (more town driving). Overall average is 37.8mpg over 14k miles. These are worked out using the odometer, brimming the tank and a calculator (not the computer). The computer has been about 0.5 to 1mpg out on each tank (it's been slightly pessimistic vs. reality).

The 3.0 straight 6 turbo diesel engine is the same of as in the 330d and 530d's of course, and therefore has the same swirl flap/egr valve/vortex type crank breather jobs as in those cars, but a little preventative maintenance should see you right on those things. Also means that the service items are a similar cost to on those cars, since it's the same engine. Some stuff is different though, for example the 730d has two pollen filters, but the 330d only has one. There's probably other stuff, but the engines themselves are the same. Brakes and tyres and stuff like that will be more on the bigger car, but using an indy rather than a main dealer will reduce the cost to something I consider to be very reasonable for the type of car.

PS - I think you'll be lucky to find a 60k example in decent nick for £10k. Either you'll need to accept more miles (not an issue on these cars IMO) or you'll need to increase your budget.

PPS - I'm enjoying mine - it's a great place to cover motorway miles.

Edited by mrmr96 on Friday 29th June 15:45
think i agree with you on the budget, but i'm just reluctant to spend more, if i can't get one cheapish then i'll lease a merc c220 cdi or poss a lexus is220d if I go down the dirt cheap route!

tonker

46,801 posts

132 months

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I bet loads have 60K on them. But have done nearer 160K. I'd be supercritical of the history on one of these.....

jonah35

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tonker said:
I bet loads have 60K on them. But have done nearer 160K. I'd be supercritical of the history on one of these.....
Agreed. This one is approved used plus one owner whos a company director whos had it two years and done 35k in it so sounds feasible but i know a lot are clocked hence my not wanting to pay top ££

mrmr96

13,581 posts

88 months

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Just buy a 100k car. If you're doing 25k/yr then you'll lose far less on it.

Eg 100k car is £10k, sell in 3yrs at 175k for £5k, lose £5k vs
60k car for £16k, sell in 3yrs at 135k for £7k lose £9k.

iSore

913 posts

28 months

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jonah35 said:
most i've viewed have shown an average of 36-39mpg on their trip computers

yeah 730d's are good on lease but nearly £500 pm with nothing to show for it is too much imho. £300 pm inc vat for a c class coupe that will do 55mpg is better value in my opinion.

obviously the 730d is a better car but hey ho
Yes, I agree. But there are some stonking PCP deals on 18 month old 15'000 mile cars which have already halved in value down to around 30 grand. Thing is, because the 5 Series is so good, there's not much demand for the 7 anymore. The C Class Coupe is quite a smart thing but it's not in the same league as a 7 Series which is a big wafty old thing.
I wouldn't really entertain an old leggy E65. Timing chains are a known weak spot on these in high mileage but it's most likely due to the ridiculously long service intervals.

tonker

46,801 posts

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jonah35 said:
Agreed. This one is approved used plus one owner whos a company director whos had it two years and done 35k in it so sounds feasible but i know a lot are clocked hence my not wanting to pay top ££
I'd still be massively cynical - BMW were lobbing these at the Exec minicab market when new - knowing full well all people were doing was clocking them back to 3yrs and 36K...... - even though it's approved, what does that mean..... so far as I can tell it means they checked it got serviced at BMW (And these were all on service packs), it doesn't check if it got clocked back just before the service was 'due'..... yes, I know, but it's an expensive mistake to make....

bennyboydurham

1,399 posts

58 months

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In terms of fuel economy, here's what I get on my commute, which is a mix of A-roads, motorway, country lanes and some stop start town stuff at the end. I rarely see much under 40mpg.




And for a laugh, the numbers from when I do the journey in my wife's E92 325i.



I'd happily have another one. After 90k miles and nearly five years mine still drives and looks like it did the day I got it when it was only 23 months old.
It's hard argue with the pull of a no-hassle lease car for the same money, but £3600 for 3 years and nothing at the end is worse than £10k for a tidy E65 that will still be worth, say £5k if you look after it and is arguably a nicer motor. Decisions, decisions, eh?

iSore

913 posts

28 months

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iPhone 4 - that's SOOOO 2010!

bennyboydurham

1,399 posts

58 months

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iSore said:
iPhone 4 - that's SOOOO 2010!
Thanks to Orange and those pesky 24 month iPhone contracts! I'll probably pass the 4S by and go straight to the 5 at this rate...

to3m

426 posts

54 months

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iSore said:
iPhone 4 - that's SOOOO 2010!
I don't know if you've noticed, but this is a thread about a car from 2006 smile

eastsider

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jonah35 said:
Thanks chaps. Its that or lease a new c class coupe amg sport for £298 pm hassle free. Trying to work out which is cheaper.

The merc will have warranty and more mpg and no depreciation but obviously the regular monthly cost.
No depreciation? The monthly cost is the depreciation, mainly!

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