Dashboard Warning Lights Very Faint, MOT failure?

Dashboard Warning Lights Very Faint, MOT failure?

Author
Discussion

S2Mike

Original Poster:

3,065 posts

150 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all
I notice with hood down in daylight the "swoosh" of warning lights (battery, indicators, mainbeam etc) on the dash of my S2 are impossible to see on or off, would this be an MOT failure? If so is there an easy fix or do I need considerably bigger bulbs?

v8s4me

7,240 posts

219 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all
My bulbs were 3W so I changed them for 5W but it didn't make much difference. I'm not sure if this is an MOT issue but it might be worth asking before you submit the car for the test. If the examiner gets funny about them, go somewhere else where they understand old cars.

S2Mike

Original Poster:

3,065 posts

150 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all
I put my MGB in for MOT recently and all they could find to report on the advisory was "Dim Main Beam Warning Light", now checking the TVR you cant see them at all with the roof down, and very faint in daylight with the roof up.

v8s4me

7,240 posts

219 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all
Don't worry, they are all like that. Just realised though you may not be able change the bulbs in the warning lights as they are sealed, they were on mine anyway – it was the instrument illumination bulbs I changed to 5W on mine. I remember now, I did have a hunt around for alternative warning lights but couldn’t find anything brighter. Maybe try these if you are looking for alternatives.

http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/

NiceCupOfTea

25,289 posts

251 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all
Are they affected by the dash brightness switch? Just take it for MOT on a dull day with the roof up smile (Not such a problem at the moment...)

S2Mike

Original Poster:

3,065 posts

150 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all
Numpty or what, I have not seen the dash brightness switch, where should that be hiding? Or at least a rough direction to look, the wiring on mine is like a storm in a spaghetti factory.
Thanks for the link V8s4Me, interesting and useful site!

Edited by S2Mike on Tuesday 3rd July 16:36

seb400

459 posts

284 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all
on the V8S it's under the dashboard, facing the floor to right of steering wheel

Steve

S2Mike

Original Poster:

3,065 posts

150 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all
Thanks seb400, I will go have a look tonight.

NiceCupOfTea

25,289 posts

251 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all
On the S2 isn't it one of the circular knobs in the centre of the dash?

You'll have to forgive me, I've only driven mine once and I couldn't work out what all the knobs did! laugh

S2Mike

Original Poster:

3,065 posts

150 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all
That could be it, but I think mine is either on or off, but will have a lok tonight.

Barry S1

1,709 posts

189 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all
mine only go on or off when they are on at night
they reflect in the window so only put them on in
towns to check the speed

phillpot

17,116 posts

183 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
quotequote all

confused are we talking warning lamps here or instrument lights ?

Dimmer switch (if you have one) won't, or at least shouldn't, effect the warning lamps.

Ign light is a bit different and earths through alternator but most of the others quite possibly share a common earth, could be poor connection or come off completely ?

Edited by phillpot on Tuesday 3rd July 20:23

S2Mike

Original Poster:

3,065 posts

150 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
quotequote all
Yes we are talking warning lights, and the chances off the earth being poor, or connection off altogether is quite high, I currently have no main beam headlamps, or warning light at all, no electric windows, no interior light, no clock and as mentioned above the rest of the warning lights are very dim, or not working, so will need some work to get through MOT anyway. Thank goodness I have until October.
.At least it starts first time every time, and gets a blast round the bypass every 2 weeks or so.

greymrj

3,316 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
quotequote all
The dimmer switch on my S1 only effects the lights in the gauges, and that is correct per the wiring diagram. The warning lights are NOT effected.

My warning lights are also c--p. So bad that a good MOT tester, familiar with classic cars, said he couldn't find the indicator tell tale and shouldnt really pass it as it was.
I also got fed up with trying to see what lights were illuminated, the reds were clear enough but the rest weren't. I thought the plastic cover had perhaps become more opaque with age so I bought a new one...... sod all difference! So then I changed the indicator tell tale light unit. You are right, you cannot change the bulbs in these! And, in a wonderful bit of TVR foresight, they come out forwards, i.e. the plastic cover has to come off first.....and of course that is glued down!!!
I then bought new units with rearward removable bulbs from the wonderful Car Builder Solutions. Even with clean new units, marginally more powerful bulbs AND a new plastic cover the indicator tell tale is still bloody awful (as is the main beam warning light)...and in a bloody awful place too.

I have had enought of it now. My car is going to be driven in modern traffic for many years to come (my son now drives it a well) so sod originality we are going to change the warning light arrangements!

Incidentally, I love driving the car at night and I found the reflection of the gauge lights on the screen annoying even with the lights dimmed. I fitted orange bulbs (you can get orange and blue bulbs which directly replace the originals. 12v 5W capless W2.1X9.5D). The effect is much pleasanter, and much more in keeping with the doeskin trim and the green body colour!

phillpot

17,116 posts

183 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
quotequote all
greymrj said:
so sod originality we are going to change the warning light arrangements!
Things hadn't improved by the S3, warning lamps used to be behind a smoked glass cover, looked good but couldn't see a dammed thing !



glenrobbo

35,251 posts

150 months

Wednesday 4th July 2012
quotequote all
Phillpot,
Why are you taking pictures of your warning lights at 3500 rpm & 10 mph?
You should be doing over 70 at those revs.
Nice neat solution though, as usual.
You're the Man.
Respect.

Are you sure you want lager for breakfast on Sat?