Atlantis 50ft from Azimut, thoughts?

Atlantis 50ft from Azimut, thoughts?

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robm3

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227 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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My wife torpedoed the idea of a yacht recently after hating the way they Heel (kids are 4&6 and were clinging on). So our game plan has changed with a motor yacht being given the provisional green light.

Que much trawling of classifieds and the one that seems to fit the bill is this;



It has 3 cabins, diesel, can fit on my brothers swing mooring (max length 50ft/25 tons), and has the sports look I'm after.

From what I can deduce they are built on a Azimut hull but not sure about quality of build. There was a model redesign around 2009 but it's the earlier more 'open' version I like.

Target price is $450-$500k

Any brokers/shipwrights know much about the brand as its relatively unknown here in Sydney.



http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/35594...

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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Azimut does not have the greatest of reputations for build quality if a few years old, they are a bit better now. Our finance director at the boatyard had one for 4 years which he lost quite a bit on depreciation. He bought an East Bay to replace it.

Read this article and see what you think.

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/azimut-yacht/117...

robm3

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Thursday 5th July 2012
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Fishtigua said:
Azimut does not have the greatest of reputations for build quality if a few years old, they are a bit better now. Our finance director at the boatyard had one for 4 years which he lost quite a bit on depreciation. He bought an East Bay to replace it.

Read this article and see what you think.

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/azimut-yacht/117...
Thank you for the info, just what I was after (this is exactly why I enjoy PH!)


My Brother had actually advised me similiar on yachts we looked at (hull strengths etc..) but he has limited knowledge on motor yachts. As side bar he's advised to get a Riviera purely because they have a good reputation in the industry here in Australia.

Fishtigua

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195 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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Riviera boats are built like brick s**thouses. A bit heavy, so likes to drink the juice, but from a great old American design that will handle anything.

village idiot

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267 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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we had the uk agency for riviera for a while and had a 37 as a demo boat... as has already been said... built like a brick sh*t house.

have you considered windy?...

one of these:- http://www.windy.no/windy_44.html or maybe one of these http://www.windy.no/windy_52.html (or even one of these http://www.windy.no/windy_53.html).

they are not exactly 'cheap', but you do get what you pay for. brokerage examples are a bit like hens teeth, but if you want, i can put you in touch with my colleague who looks after the brokerage for these things.

village idiot

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267 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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just re-read your original post... i don't think you will find a windy 44 or 52 for the sort of money you are spending (on account that they are still so new).

you could go with a fairline targa 48 or a princess v-series of some description. we have a 1997 3-cabin targa 48 for sale in the s.of.france at about euro 190k (AUS$232k or thereabouts) or a 2002 targa 52 here in the uk at £250k (AUS$380k).

XJSJohn

15,965 posts

219 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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there is a few Azimuts out here already going into the yards for repairs due to delamination on hulls ...

for other options, the entry level Pershing could fit the bill

Alternatively Prestige Yachts (made by Jeanneau)

or as has already been mentioned, Rivierra

Fishtigua

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195 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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village idiot said:
I can put you in touch with my colleague who looks after the brokerage for Windy.
Can you ask him if he was the one who sold my mate Paul in Guernsey his new 44' with Volvo D6/DPHs. He looked at the Yanmars but the time to get onto the plane was aweful. I talked him into the 470hp Volvos, he's very happy with them.

robm3

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Thursday 5th July 2012
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Opinions on Sunseekers?

50' Camargue in particular. This is a strong second but not a fan of how the internal tender storage basically robs a cabin from the design.

Still there's one on the Goldcoast QLD for Au$450neg which would alleviate the hassle of international shipping and duty.


village idiot

3,158 posts

267 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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robm3 said:
Opinions on Sunseekers?

50' Camargue in particular. This is a strong second but not a fan of how the internal tender storage basically robs a cabin from the design.

Still there's one on the Goldcoast QLD for Au$450neg which would alleviate the hassle of international shipping and duty.
just out of interest... have you obtained a quote for shipping from the UK or Med?... if not, it may be worth doing that as sometimes the prices can be slightly eye-watering.

these chaps are worth a shout:-

http://www.sevenstar-yacht-transport.com/

http://www.petersandmay.com/

(btw... the above is not a personal or professional recommendation, so don't come back to me if they drop your prized new possession from a crane at 100ft in the air! lol)

XJSJohn

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Thursday 5th July 2012
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Will be about $25 - 30k deck cargo. (usd)