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C4SHONEY

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116 posts

18 months

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Friday 6th July 2012 quote quote all
2002 996 C4S. Well looked after FPSH. I have had it for 9 months and love it.

Driving along the motorway you can occasionally hear funny sounds at high speeds. I have taken it to a Porsche main dealer to look at (won't say which as that is a different debate). They say that the front differential has bearings that have gone and you can't just replace the bearings. So it is a whole new front differential at about £3,000 inc fitting. As I am sure you can understand I want to look into this a bit more before having to write that cheque. I am sure a independent could get the cost down a bit, but my question is has anyone else had a similar experience with the front diff on a C4S or TURBO 996? They share the same front diff

I like to use the Porsche guys to keep the FPSH, but would consider someone else to do special jobs such as this.

The car has done 62,000 miles so not really high mileage,

There must be a better option than a new front diff at £3k (I hope!)

Also I have to get 4 new tyres, any thoughts on what to get?

cheers

Magic919

7,536 posts

70 months

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Sorry to hear about the diff. Hopefully an indie can sort it for reasonable money.

I've just put 4 Michelin Pilot Sport 2 on the C4S for about a grand. Nice tyres.

rhkumar

162 posts

25 months

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I would PM Richard Hamilton or speak to recommended indies like Northway or Wrightune. Not sure where you're located but I wouldn't trust what an opc had to say. Good luck

GT One in Surrey also recommended

Yep- def go for michelins Camskill have the best prices so far

Edited by rhkumar on Friday 6th July 22:11

ROK

245 posts

21 months

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Needed to replace mine around similar miles. Not uncommon as the car ages.

You can reduce the cost by getting a refurbished unit. Regardless it is still pricey. Swallow the bill. There is no othe way around it.

Pickled Piper

5,158 posts

104 months

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I am sure PCT in Coventry advertise that they can change these bearings. Have a look on their website.

pp

http://www.pctcars.co.uk/service.htm

There you go.

Edited by Pickled Piper on Friday 6th July 21:19

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davek_964

1,862 posts

44 months

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I remember seeing a thread on rennlist, from somebody in the UK with a yellow 996 turbo who had front diff issues (think the user name was Simon something). But after the replacement I think he was still having problems again some time after that.

ETA : Found it - SimonK : http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/996-turbo-fo...

Maybe you could ask him how he got on.

Edited by davek_964 on Friday 6th July 22:16

C4SHONEY

Original Poster:

116 posts

18 months

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cheers guys

cd1957

311 posts

45 months

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Saturday 7th July 2012 quote quote all
Hi try Mike at Sports And Classics,there is a photo on his website of one stripped,and yes you can get bearings direct from the manufacture.

Chris

Lordglenmorangie

2,554 posts

74 months

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Saturday 7th July 2012 quote quote all
If only it was so simple to change the bearings. It is likely the bearings have broken down and are swirling around the diff making the whole unit unserviceable .

Indies will not save you much as the main cost is the parts, and since VW took charge these parts have gone thro the roof.

Sorry to say your options are limited at best frown

Edited to add sad face .

Edited by Lordglenmorangie on Saturday 7th July 11:19

Callughan

5,302 posts

61 months

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It's quite common. Mine was done under P warranty


sm34uk

55 posts

19 months

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Mine went on a C4, got one off ebay and fitted at the local garage for under £200, so all changed for under £500. May go again but your quote from OPC was the same as mine and it has to go an awful lot of times before the OPC becomes the cheaper route. Try the breakers but when I rang around there were none around and the comment I had was "normally we sell one or two of these a year but have had a bit of a run on them. Obviously if don't want to go down that cheaper and riskier route then understandable but worked out well for me.

BliarOut

53,460 posts

108 months

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A diff is a diff is a diff. Chances are a diff specialist can rebuild it regardless of what it's off smile

pikeyboy

1,791 posts

83 months

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Sunday 8th July 2012 quote quote all
Compay I work for are a leading tranmission and drive train consultancy. If the beaings have broken up then the debris will have been meshed between the flanks of the gear teeth causing small surface indentations. I assume an OPC will want to do a pukka job and just replace the unit to alleviate any future warranty claim. Swapping just the bearings should be possible although how noisey the front diff will be is anyones guess as is how long it will last with replaced beaings. You also need to replicate the preload on any bearings in order to get the same contact pattern on the gear teeth. Failure to do this will give increased wear of the meshing gears.

In a car I was moving on I'd be doing the easisest option used diff or new bearings. On a keeper it'd be a new diff. Reason for this is that once you have micro pitting caused by wear debris you soon get spalling and macro pitting and a fooked bearing/ gear. Also you don't have any issues resetting the bearing clearance.

pmr01

40 posts

19 months

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Just in case...I had a similar issue with the front diff on my 996 turbo. I was convinced it was the diff as it didn't exhibit some of the issues you get with the other candidate - front wheel bearing.
I done a lot of forum searching and I discovered a pattern of misdiagnosis between diff / w bearings across a number of years.
The garage were uncomfortable in replacing a diff as they were aware of the noise but didn't think it was the bearings
After much investigation it turned out to be the wheel bearing - delighted.
I also discovered a whole raft of peoPle in America who just turned their turbos into rwd.
Hope you are as lucky as I was

pmr01

40 posts

19 months

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Oh, also a full step by step instruction with app 100 photos of how to just replace the bearings on a USA site.
Also there was a sh diff on eBay for £400 recently as well.
Good luck

C4SHONEY

Original Poster:

116 posts

18 months

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Tuesday 10th July 2012 quote quote all
The car has just undergone a workshop and road inspection by GT One (very impressed so far). They are of the opinion the diff is ok. So will fit a new set of tyres and hopefully that will be the end of it.

I will keep you posted.

I am going to get them to fit a Dansk (?) sports exhaust, any comments...?

On a separate note the chap from GT One has left his VW van in my drive, it has the most enormous front discs and calipers that i have ever seen!

monthefish

15,709 posts

100 months

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C4SHONEY said:
The car has just undergone a workshop and road inspection by GT One (very impressed so far). They are of the opinion the diff is ok. So will fit a new set of tyres and hopefully that will be the end of it.

I will keep you posted.
That would be great if it was. Good luck.

If it is, will you inform the OPC of their mistake?
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