No front number plate

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groak

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3,254 posts

184 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Towards the end of the year I get my new toy which really doesn't have anywhere suitable for a front number plate. How much problem is it likely to cause if I don't bother with one ?

agtlaw

6,864 posts

211 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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groak said:
Towards the end of the year I get my new toy which really doesn't have anywhere suitable for a front number plate. How much problem is it likely to cause if I don't bother with one ?
£60 fixed penalty each time you're stopped.

groak

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3,254 posts

184 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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No points? No problem, then smile





Edited by groak on Sunday 8th July 00:55

Ki3r

7,908 posts

164 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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agtlaw said:
£60 fixed penalty each time you're stopped.
Or a VDRS...have to get one fitted ASAP, stamped at a MOT station and taken back to a police station within 14 days.

I might be mistaken, but if you do it so many times (more than twice rings a bell) the DVLA can take the plate away, giving you a Q plate.

It might just be for non conforming plates though (crappy fonts etc).

No idea why you wouldn't want one though...just asking for trouble.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

193 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Ki3r said:
I might be mistaken, but if you do it so many times (more than twice rings a bell) the DVLA can take the plate away, giving you a Q plate.
q plates are reserved for vehicles where they can't define a date. In most cases, you'll find the original plate that came with the car is still sitting there hidden, linked to the car, with the private plate being the link.

So if COR5A gets taken off your Vauxhall for repeated spacing infringements, it'll drop back to P176 HHT or whatever, and not a Q plate.

0a

23,956 posts

199 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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What car? Then loads of people will post up pics of number plates they think look ok on it smile

uk_vette

3,336 posts

209 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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I didn't fix a front plate to either the WS6 Trans Am, or the Corvette.
They lived in the boot.
I only got pulled once in the 6 years I had the 2 cars.

On them odds, I just wouldn't bother.

vette

groak

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3,254 posts

184 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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"It just fell off, officer. Look, here it is in the boot".


Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

175 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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groak said:
"It just fell off, officer. Look, here it is in the boot".
No problem son, I've got some self-tappers and a screw driver here, I'll wait whilst I watch you screw the plate on.

GC8

19,910 posts

195 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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TheEnd said:
Ki3r said:
I might be mistaken, but if you do it so many times (more than twice rings a bell) the DVLA can take the plate away, giving you a Q plate.
q plates are reserved for vehicles where they can't define a date. In most cases, you'll find the original plate that came with the car is still sitting there hidden, linked to the car, with the private plate being the link.

So if COR5A gets taken off your Vauxhall for repeated spacing infringements, it'll drop back to P176 HHT or whatever, and not a Q plate.
Youre on a hiding to nothing here! People really wont accept that this cant happen and its become pub/forum myth, like not tax means invalid insurance, DOC cover requires the car to be insured and other such nonsense...

Far from being thrown around, Q prefixes are assigned reluctantly now and only where a vehicles original age or identity cant be established - they certainly arent given away on a whim.

daz3210

5,000 posts

245 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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GC8 said:
Youre on a hiding to nothing here! People really wont accept that this cant happen and its become pub/forum myth, like not tax means invalid insurance, DOC cover requires the car to be insured and other such nonsense...

Far from being thrown around, Q prefixes are assigned reluctantly now and only where a vehicles original age or identity cant be established - they certainly arent given away on a whim.
I'm not sure you are right, I was told this by an MOT man. He reckons he has seen it happen. And if it does, what does it do to your cars value?




Aretnap

1,676 posts

156 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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agtlaw said:
£60 fixed penalty each time you're stopped.
Or a maximum fine of (IIRC) £1000 if they decide not to give you a fixed penalty and prosecute you instead - which they might if you make a habit of it.

GC8

19,910 posts

195 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Im confident that Im right. I do realise that the 'Q reg' threat was made when the reporting process was introduced, but its an obvious nonsense.

The more you consider it, I think, the more obvious it is that its a nonsense. The intention is to stop serial piss-taking and its obviously intended to frighten people into desisting, making them fear for the value of their vehicle. You only have to look into the Q registration scheme though, to see that whilst it may be threatened, and whilst cherished numbers may well be withdrawn, the DVLA isnt re-registering vehicles whose identity and provenance are not in question with punitive Q plates.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

227 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Aretnap said:
agtlaw said:
£60 fixed penalty each time you're stopped.
Or a maximum fine of (IIRC) £1000 if they decide not to give you a fixed penalty and prosecute you instead - which they might if you make a habit of it.
They could of course, get you for attempting to pervert the course of justice. (avoiding forward facing cameras)

Starfighter

5,045 posts

183 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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groak said:
Towards the end of the year I get my new toy which really doesn't have anywhere suitable for a front number plate. How much problem is it likely to cause if I don't bother with one ?
What toy and why is it not coming with plates fitted?

vonhosen

40,404 posts

222 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Aretnap said:
agtlaw said:
£60 fixed penalty each time you're stopped.
Or a maximum fine of (IIRC) £1000 if they decide not to give you a fixed penalty and prosecute you instead - which they might if you make a habit of it.
And a ban from driving if they choose to.

GC8

19,910 posts

195 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Thats a little severe isnt it?

uk_vette

3,336 posts

209 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Mr GrimNasty said:
groak said:
"It just fell off, officer. Look, here it is in the boot".
No problem son, I've got some self-tappers and a screw driver here, I'll wait whilst I watch you screw the plate on.
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Double sided sticky.

vette

groak

Original Poster:

3,254 posts

184 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Goodness!! And there was me thinking this meaningless regulatory infraction was only going to incur the occasional little earner for HMG!! I should have known it was directly linked to mayhem, murder and probably terrorism too. Obviously having the p&j crushed and myself lengthily imprisoned is only reasonable in the circumstances. So it's back to rigid conformity for me before I inadvertently cause WW3 with this wilful and thoughtless outbreak of criminality. I can only humbly apologise and assure Your Honours I won't so much as think of doing it again. Show me to the naughty step! redcard

grumpyscot

1,285 posts

197 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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Your car would have been picked up by average speed cameras anyway - many of these are supplemented by CCTV