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bmwdrivernigel

Original Poster:

8,596 posts

132 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Chaps, is it possible to find out if a Ltd company is VAT registered?

Eric Mc

88,184 posts

173 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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If it is VAT registered, it should be quoting its VAT No. on its invoices.

bmwdrivernigel

Original Poster:

8,596 posts

132 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Thanks Eric, I have an invoice but no VAT or company reg numbers shown. No vat on invoice total either...

Simpo Two

65,935 posts

173 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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phone 'Hello, are you VAT registered please?'

singlecoil

23,085 posts

154 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Sounds like they are not registered. Are they asking you for VAT?
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bmwdrivernigel

Original Poster:

8,596 posts

132 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I'm not being asked to pay VAT but have been invoiced by someone who I think should be registered. Having received an invoice that shows very few details I want to check that the invoice is correct legally before I raise concerns.

TIA

Simpo Two

65,935 posts

173 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I'm not clear why you want to 'raise concerns'. Do you want them to say 'Oh yes, sorry, that'll be another 20% please'?

Frankly if you think the bill is reasonable I'd pay it. If they ARE VAT registered they'll still have to pay VAT to HMRC - but out of the amount you paid, not extra. Their problem not yours I feel.

Cyberprog

1,734 posts

91 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Are you VAT registered yourself? If so, it's easy enough to ask them if they are also VAT registered, but they may well be under the threshold themselves...

Doofus

3,723 posts

81 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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Simpo Two said:
Their problem not yours.
WHS

bmwdrivernigel

Original Poster:

8,596 posts

132 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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So, I take it that unless I ask the person/s concerned directly there is no way of checking?

LooneyTunes

3,632 posts

66 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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Simpo Two said:
I'm not clear why you want to 'raise concerns'. Do you want them to say 'Oh yes, sorry, that'll be another 20% please'?
Or, speculating, could be a competitor who he thinks is gaining a competitive advantage by not charging VAT?

joewilliams

2,004 posts

109 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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Ring the vat office and ask them. We've done this when a company was quoting the vat number of another company controlled by the same director.

Eric Mc

88,184 posts

173 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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bmwdrivernigel said:
So, I take it that unless I ask the person/s concerned directly there is no way of checking?
Why would you want to know?

VERN UK

155 posts

52 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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bmwdrivernigel said:
Thanks Eric, I have an invoice but no VAT or company reg numbers shown. No vat on invoice total either...
The invoice is not legal or correct anyhow, if they are Ltd the invoice has to show a company reg no, and a registerd office address! Also a Vat no. If they are vat registerd etc

Eric Mc

88,184 posts

173 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Is the entity a limited comnpany?

And there are lower disclosure requirements for small value invoices (under £250).

raptor600

1,356 posts

54 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Eric Mc said:
And there are lower disclosure requirements for small value invoices (under £250).
It must still show a VAT number though.

Eric Mc

88,184 posts

173 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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raptor600 said:
Eric Mc said:
And there are lower disclosure requirements for small value invoices (under £250).
It must still show a VAT number though.
Of course - but only IF they are VAT registered.

Doofus

3,723 posts

81 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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And to Eric's point; if they don't show a VAT nunmber, it's their problem, not the OPs.

If the OP owes them £100 and they invoice him for £100, even if they should have broken out the VAT, it doesn't change the fact that the OP owes them £100.

TooLateForAName

3,009 posts

92 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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But if the op is VAT registered, it does make a difference to the OP.

raptor600

1,356 posts

54 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Eric Mc said:
raptor600 said:
Eric Mc said:
And there are lower disclosure requirements for small value invoices (under £250).
It must still show a VAT number though.
Of course - but only IF they are VAT registered.
I know. So what have lower disclosure requirements got to do with anything?

OP - just ring them up and ask. If you suspect foul play then ring HMRC and get them to confirm?