SORN and written off car

[Viperz888]

I have a car that I SORNed last year following an accident. The car was written off as far as I know, but I still have the logbook and what is left of the vehicle.
I didn't receive a Tax reminder, and knew that it was due around this time of year.
I checked the documents, and the Sorn ran out in April of this year.

Am I best declaring Sorn now ( I was going to do so online, but there is a message that suggests I may be "reminding" DVLA of the gap in licence).
Does a written off car even need a SORN?

Thanks

[Ean218]

Viperz888 said:

Does a written off car even need a SORN?

No, because you were supposed to inform DVLA that it had been scrapped...

As you possibly haven't it is still an untaxed, and presumably also uninsured, car in their eyes.

[marshalla]

Check the status here : https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app...


(If it doesn't show up, it usually means DVLA think it's scrapped)

[Viperz888]

Thanks Marshalla, but it comes up as Unlicensed

ETA:

Date of Liability 01 04 2012
Date of First Registration 23 02 1995
Year of Manufacture 1995
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1391cc
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type PETROL
Export Marker N
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval Not Available
Vehicle Identity Check (VIC) Marker. VIC required.
What do they mean?

Edited by Viperz888 on Thursday 26th July 17:26

[DocJock]

VIC is where a VOSA test station compare the VIN on the VIN plate and stamped on the chassis with the numbers on the V5 before issuing a new V5

[marshalla]

Not declared scrapped - declared accident damaged and re-registerable. Now, since it can't be taxed until it passes VIC does that mean it's automatically declared SORN ? I suspect (strongly) not.

[Red Devil]

marshalla said:

Not declared scrapped - declared accident damaged and re-registerable. Now, since it can't be taxed until it passes VIC does that mean it's automatically declared SORN ? I suspect (strongly) not.

^^This^^

OP, was there an insurance claim? The insurance company normally ask for the V5C when a car is a total loss. Did you receive a payout? If so, on what terms?

[Cyberprog]

marshalla said:

Not declared scrapped - declared accident damaged and re-registerable. Now, since it can't be taxed until it passes VIC does that mean it's automatically declared SORN ? I suspect (strongly) not.

That's incorrect, you can tax it using a manual form at a post office. Until it's VIC'd you can't do it online and won't get reminders though IIRC. A new V5 wouldn't be issued either until the check's been done.

[Viperz888]

Red Devil said:

OP, was there an insurance claim? The insurance company normally ask for the V5C when a car is a total loss. Did you receive a payout? If so, on what terms?

Yes, I claimed for the car as was not at fault and got a payment for the vehicle. What do you mean about terms? I asked to keep the car, and they let me keep it for free. Was never asked for the V5c. I sorned the car straight away for the tax rebate. I never recieved any paperwork of details of the car though (about it getting written off etc)

Edited by Viperz888 on Thursday 26th July 20:03

[Red Devil]

Viperz888 said:

Red Devil said:

OP, was there an insurance claim? The insurance company normally ask for the V5C when a car is a total loss. Did you receive a payout? If so, on what terms?

Yes, I claimed for the car as was not at fault and got a payment for the vehicle. What do you mean about terms? I asked to keep the car, and they let me keep it for free. Was never asked for the V5c. I sorned the car straight away for the tax rebate. I never recieved any paperwork of details of the car though (about it getting written off etc)

If you claimed on your own insurance policy and received a total loss payment, the title to the vehicle passes to the insurer and they ask for the V5C and MOT if applicable. With a Cat C, if you want to keep it, most (but not all) insurers will let you do so. They effectively 'sell' it back to you at the salvage value. This amount is normally deducted from the settlement figure. This may have happened in your case. It is even possible they decided the scrap value was worth £0 and you got the full amount. The Cat C is the reason for the VIC marker. The vehicle's identity must be checked and a new V5C issued before it can be taxed and returned to the road.

The vehicle is yours and DVLA will still have you recorded as the RK. Until the government removes the need for annual declarations or you sell/scrap the vehicle, you will still need to continue to declare SORN if you are keeping it off road and untaxed/uninsured.

[Viperz888]

So am I best declaring a new SORN on it now and risk being fined for the gap in status?
Or ask them why I haven't received confirmation of the SORN I declared in April?

[Ean218]

Why not just send in the scrap notification and back date it?